The Super Mario Bros. Movie not doing that great...

[MrPromey]

... was the prediction of a lot of people around here.

‘Super Mario Bros. Movie’ Box Office: All the Records Leveled

Illumination and Universal's adaptation of the wildly popular Nintendo video game scored the biggest global debut in history for an animated film, among other records broken.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Rotten Tomatoes currently gives the movie a score of 57% while the audience score is 96%.

Having seen it (and having read a handful of the reviews), both of those scores make perfect sense to me.

I think it is seriously time for Disney to consider their place in the market.

 

[WDWmazprty]

Saw it last night and it was great for what it was. Very nostalgic and fun. Not a blockbuster, but a fun movie about everyone's favorite video game plumber, lol. It looks like there will be a second one too.

 

[Phroobar]

Super Mario Bros movie opens with a record breaking $376 million globally topping Frozen 2.

In North America, Super Mario Bros.’ three-day weekend makes it the second-best start ever for an animated title behind Incredibles 2 after passing up Finding Dory. And globally, it bested the $358 million launch of Frozen II.

Box Office: ‘Super Mario Bros.’ Opens to Stupendous $204.6M in U.S., Record $375.6M Globally

The movie scored the top global launch ever for an animated pic, and the second-best ever domestically. Ben Affleck's adult-skewing drama 'Air' opened to $20.2 million in a win for Amazon's foray into theatrical.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Prince-1]

... was the prediction of a lot of people around here.

‘Super Mario Bros. Movie’ Box Office: All the Records Leveled

Illumination and Universal's adaptation of the wildly popular Nintendo video game scored the biggest global debut in history for an animated film, among other records broken.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Rotten Tomatoes currently gives the movie a score of 57% while the audience score is 96%.

Having seen it (and having read a handful of the reviews), both of those scores make perfect sense to me.

I think it is seriously time for Disney to consider their place in the market.

I am confused with your post...are you saying that the movie did not do well financially? If so you might want to do some research because the movie was a HUGE hit.

 

[DKampy]

... was the prediction of a lot of people around here.

‘Super Mario Bros. Movie’ Box Office: All the Records Leveled

Illumination and Universal's adaptation of the wildly popular Nintendo video game scored the biggest global debut in history for an animated film, among other records broken.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Rotten Tomatoes currently gives the movie a score of 57% while the audience score is 96%.

Having seen it (and having read a handful of the reviews), both of those scores make perfect sense to me.

I think it is seriously time for Disney to consider their place in the market.

I did not realize Super Mario was a Disney Film…

 

[KeithVH]

I'll watch when it comes on TV but this is the movie they SHOULD have made . . .

Its-a me, Mario

 

[MrPromey]

I am confused with your post...are you saying that the movie did not do well financially? If so you might want to do some research because the movie was a HUGE hit.

Nope - that was sarcasm.

 

[MrPromey]

I did not realize Super Mario was a Disney Film…

I'm sure they wish it was right about now.

That said, I don't start threads very often and realized I'd done it in the wrong place after I published... and that you can't just delete a thread (even with no responses) the way you can a post so...

 

[Phroobar]

This movie sets the bar even higher for Elemental and Wish to do well with their huge budgets. Universal has been eating Disney's lunch for the last year.

 

[erasure fan1]

I'm confused with your post...are you saying that the movie did not do well financially? If so you might want to do some research because the movie was a HUGE hit.

This response answers a lot of my questions about you.

 

[Phroobar]

This response answers a lot of my questions about you.

Sometimes the ... is lost on people.

 

[Disstevefan1]

This movie sets the bar even higher for Elemental and Wish to do well with their huge budgets. Universal has been eating Disney's lunch for the last year.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

I think it is seriously time for Disney to consider their place in the market.

How so? Is your suggestion that they should be licensing more outside IP?

 

[MrPromey]

How so? Is your suggestion that they should be licensing more outside IP?

No but I think they need to think a little more about the movies they're making.

This is a silly movie. The motivations of the villain are basically, he has a crush on the princess and dreams of being the most powerful turtle in the world - that second part is almost a direct quote to a line he gives - the most powerful turtle in the world.

The IP has a lot to do with the popularity but they also made a movie that serves their ticket-buying audience very well, that's why despite critics not liking it at all, it has almost a perfect guest score.

it's not just an IP cash-in. They gave their wide target audience exactly what they wanted.

It follows a trend of low-stakes stories (even when it involves people trying to rule the world) that Illumination has become known for.

Really, though, there are a few competitors who've been doing their thing in this space with budgets of $100 million or less.

I think not every single Disney/Pixar release has to offer mature social commentary, subvert expectations, or tackle generational trauma and come in at a $150-$250 million dollar budget.

It's okay to just make a fun movie, too.

I feel like Disney/Pixar don't really set out to make fun movies, anymore.

Not saying they need to give up on the awards contenders or stop making animation targeted more at 20-30-somethings than kids but maybe they could do like every other movie or something.

That's all.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

No but I think they need to think a little more about the movies they're making.

This is a silly movie. The motivations of the villain are basically, he has a crush on the princess and dreams of being the most powerful turtle in the world - that second part is almost a direct quote to a line he gives - the most powerful turtle in the world.

The IP has a lot to do with the popularity but they also made a movie that serves their ticket-buying audience very well, that's why despite critics not liking it at all, it has almost a perfect guest score.

it's not just an IP cash-in. They gave their wide target audience exactly what they wanted.

It follows a trend of low-stakes stories (even when it involves people trying to rule the world) that Illumination has become known for.

Really, though, there are a few competitors who've been doing their thing in this space with budgets of $100 million or less.

I think not every single Disney/Pixar release has to offer mature social commentary, subvert expectations, or tackle generational trauma and come in at a $150-$250 million dollar budget.

It's okay to just make a fun movie, too.

I feel like Disney/Pixar doesn't really set out to make fun movies, anymore.

Not saying they need to give up on the awards contenders or stop making animation targeted more at 20-30-somethings than kids but maybe they could do like every other movie or something.

That's all.

I think it is ok to just make fun movies, but I don't think the message Disney needs to take away from Mario's success is that they need to make fluffier movies.

Disney and Pixar have always tried to position themselves as the premier brand in animation, whether or not the films always lived up to such lofty positioning. Personally, I think it's better for them to try and keep that position than chase easy money as I think we saw the results of that after Dreamworks hit big, they disbanded traditional animation, and made Chicken Little in response.

Disney does need to find a way to have their animated movies generate income, but considering new Disney & Pixar animated films have been the most-streamed movies for the past two years (Luca and Encanto) I feel the issue is not so much the product but figuring out how to balance streaming and a traditional release window.

 

[Phroobar]

Chicken Little actually made more money than Strange World, Buzz Lightyear, Raya & the Last Dragon, Encanto, Luca and Turning Red. Yet Universal properties like Minions, Puss 'n Boots and Mario set records and cost less to make.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Chicken Little actually made more money than Strange World, Buzz Lightyear, Raya & the Last Dragon, Encanto, Luca and Turning Red. Yet Universal properties like Minions, Puss 'n Boots and Mario set records and cost less to make.

Puss 'n Boots - Great Movie!

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Chicken Little actually made more money than Strange World, Buzz Lightyear, Raya & the Last Dragon, Encanto, Luca and Turning Red. Yet Universal properties like Minions, Puss 'n Boots and Mario set records and cost less to make.

Well, personally I think Disney is better off making more Lucas and Encantos than Chicken Littles going forward.

 

[MrPromey]

I think it is ok to just make fun movies, but I don't think the message Disney needs to take away from Mario's success is that they need to make fluffier movies.

Disney and Pixar have always tried to position themselves as the premier brand in animation, whether or not the films always lived up to such lofty positioning. Personally, I think it's better for them to try and keep that position than chase easy money as I think we saw the results of that after Dreamworks hit big, they disbanded traditional animation, and made Chicken Little in response.

Disney does need to find a way to have their animated movies generate income, but considering new Disney & Pixar animated films have been the most-streamed movies for the past two years (Luca and Encanto) I feel the issue is not so much the product but figuring out how to balance streaming and a traditional release window.

I think Luca was a beautiful movie and I think Encanto… had a good song.

It’s impossible to say how either would have done outside of their release circumstances but they were also two in a sea of other Disney/Pixar movies people don’t talk much about.

Budget doesn’t have to be Chicken Little.

Lilo and Stitch was a well made economy movie.

Fun doesn’t have to mean Chicken Little.

Moana was a big adventure movie with a message, that I don’t think hung that hard on the message.

The last Toy Story movie was about… retirement?

Again, not saying there isn’t room for both but it doesn’t feel to me like they’ve been making both for the last several years.

 

[MrPromey]

Well, personally I think Disney is better off making more Lucas and Encantos than Chicken Littles going forward.

I don’t think anyone wants more Cicken Little and if we’re saying that is the best Disney can do in that space, maybe they don’t deserve to turn a profit, anymore.

Obviously, some of the comparison isn’t fair due to the pandemic but there has to be someplace between Chicken Little and Soul.

Again, not saying they shouldn’t make movies like Soul.

I liked Soul.

My son thought it was boring.

He’s watched Tangled at least a dozen times.

I think they should make both… and a good story with good cg animation doesn’t need to always cost a fortune, these days, I don’t think.