The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

[Cody5242]

Does that mean that Gotham City is going to a international Universal park?

 

[Mike S]

Does that mean that Gotham City is going to a international Universal park?

I can't say since I'm not an insider. Just sharing art I found on the internet.

 

[Bairstow]

Does that mean that Gotham City is going to a international Universal park?

Could be old Universal IOA art from the mid-'90s before they switched to Marvel.

 

[stlphil]

I think you all may be interested in this...

When I was at DL earlier this week, while waiting in line for Indiana Jones, I overheard a woman talking with her group of friends about WDW. I introduced myself and told her that I couldn't help but overhear her conversation and told her I was from Florida. She told me she was from Orlando and works for TDO.

Later, while still in line, she continued talking to her group of friends. I listened in. She was bragging about how cost efficient TDO is compare to TDA. She talked about bloated and "unnecessary" spending at TDA, using Indiana Jones as one example. Using rides that I've been using as examples for why DLR is better than WDW in ride quality on a ride per ride basis (while talking to other people), she used as examples to brag about how TDO is brilliantly controlling operation costs and the wastefulness of TDA's operation costs.

I felt like interrupting and telling her that's nothing to brag about, as show quality is obviously much better at DLR, compared to its WDW equivalent. Even as we walked through the que area, she would point out show elements of the que and say things like "Totally unnecessary - high maintenance."

I guess it's a different mindset of corporate culture between the two Disney operations groups?

These comments are priceless. After all, theme parks by their very existence are "unnecessary", so that makes this woman's job what?

(For those of you at TDO, that was a rhetorical question.)

 

[Mike S]

I think you all may be interested in this...

When I was at DL earlier this week, while waiting in line for Indiana Jones, I overheard a woman talking with her group of friends about WDW. I introduced myself and told her that I couldn't help but overhear her conversation and told her I was from Florida. She told me she was from Orlando and works for TDO.

Later, while still in line, she continued talking to her group of friends. I listened in. She was bragging about how cost efficient TDO is compare to TDA. She talked about bloated and "unnecessary" spending at TDA, using Indiana Jones as one example. Using rides that I've been using as examples for why DLR is better than WDW in ride quality on a ride per ride basis (while talking to other people), she used as examples to brag about how TDO is brilliantly controlling operation costs and the wastefulness of TDA's operation costs.

I felt like interrupting and telling her that's nothing to brag about, as show quality is obviously much better at DLR, compared to its WDW equivalent. Even as we walked through the que area, she would point out show elements of the que and say things like "Totally unnecessary - high maintenance."

I guess it's a different mindset of corporate culture between the two Disney operations groups?

I really hope I also run into someone from TDO making such statements at Disneyland in February. I really, REALLY do. I have a few choice words I would like to share with these types of people.

 

[FigmentJedi]

"The guests look unhappy..."
"Add more M&Gs"

 

[stevehousse]

Could be old Universal IOA art from the mid-'90s before they switched to Marvel.

It honestly looks new! I have seen the old artwork and I don't ever remember seeing anything like this!

 

[Bairstow]

It honestly looks new! I have seen the old artwork and I don't ever remember seeing anything like this!

When did they start using that stylized "W" for the Wayne Industries logo?
Now that I think about it, it's less likely that art designed for IOA in the mid-'90s would so prominently feature a father wearing a dishdasha.

 

[TP2000]

I went in June and was able to book fastpasses for Splash, Space, and Mermaid...

You lost me at Mermaid.

 

[TP2000]

I think you all may be interested in this...

When I was at DL earlier this week, while waiting in line for Indiana Jones, I overheard a woman talking with her group of friends about WDW. I introduced myself and told her that I couldn't help but overhear her conversation and told her I was from Florida. She told me she was from Orlando and works for TDO.

Later, while still in line, she continued talking to her group of friends. I listened in. She was bragging about how cost efficient TDO is compare to TDA. She talked about bloated and "unnecessary" spending at TDA, using Indiana Jones as one example. Using rides that I've been using as examples for why DLR is better than WDW in ride quality on a ride per ride basis (while talking to other people), she used as examples to brag about how TDO is brilliantly controlling operation costs and the wastefulness of TDA's operation costs.

I felt like interrupting and telling her that's nothing to brag about, as show quality is obviously much better at DLR, compared to its WDW equivalent. Even as we walked through the que area, she would point out show elements of the que and say things like "Totally unnecessary - high maintenance."

I guess it's a different mindset of corporate culture between the two Disney operations groups?

That's fascinating and terrifying at the same time.

And yet, I don't think any of us have a hard time believing it happened.

When you see the condition and new show elements of all the rides at DL today and compare that to all the rides at WDW today, it is very obvious that money has gone into MM+ instead of on actual attractions or new show elements. WDW is lagging very far behind in ride quality. I can say this with 100% certainty because I was at DL just a few days ago and WDW just a few months ago and both visits are fresh in my memory.

You aren't the only one to notice that, or purposely schedule visits to DLR on the heels of a WDW visit to take in the differences in operation.

I've noticed for years that there is obviously a different mindset between TDO and TDA, and it's quite apparent in the parks on each coast run by each team. Something just has to give for the WDW parks. A swift kick in the behind to all the TDO cubicle drones like that woman you overheard in line for Indiana Jones might be a good place to start.

 

[Todd Davis]

When did they start using that stylized "W" for the Wayne Industries logo?
Now that I think about it, it's less likely that art designed for IOA in the mid-'90s would so prominently feature a father wearing a dishdasha.

That really looks like someone took the layout for Diagon Alley and rethemed it to Gotham. Wayne tower being Gringotts. It even has the bridge...

 

[Finallyinflorida]

Yes, staying up till midnight at the 60 day mark in hopes of getting those hard to get Fastpasses is very relaxing.

Sadly, I've been there, done that.

 

[PeterAlt]

That's fascinating and terrifying at the same time.

And yet, I don't think any of us have a hard time believing it happened.



You aren't the only one to notice that, or purposely schedule visits to DLR on the heels of a WDW visit to take in the differences in operation.

I've noticed for years that there is obviously a different mindset between TDO and TDA, and it's quite apparent in the parks on each coast run by each team. Something just has to give for the WDW parks. A swift kick in the behind to all the TDO cubicle drones like that woman you overheard in line for Indiana Jones might be a good place to start.

What got me was how she bragged about cost efficiency with pride and excitement. When I first heard the tone in her voice, I thought she was talking about how much better the DL versions of the rides were. But, when I listened more carefully, I was really stunned that what she was really doing was giving herself and her TDO team members a pat on the back for finding ways to cut costs on those very same attractions in DL I've been bragging about for being so much better than their WDW counterparts.

One person's seal of quality is another person's fiscal waste. Amazing.

 

[ParentsOf4]

What got me was how she bragged about cost efficiency with pride and excitement. When I first heard the tone in her voice, I thought she was talking about how much better the DL versions of the rides were. But, when I listened more carefully, I was really stunned that what she was really doing was giving herself and her TDO team members a pat on the back for finding ways to cut costs on those very same attractions in DL I've been bragging about for being so much better than their WDW counterparts.

One person's seal of quality is another person's fiscal waste. Amazing.

I'm again reminded of the following Walt Disney quote:

Everybody thinks that Disneyland is a goldmine but we have had our problems. You've got to work it and know how to handle it. Even trying to keep that park clean is a tremendous expense. And those sharp-pencil guys tell you, 'Walt, if we cut down on maintenance, we'd save a lot of money.' But I don't believe in that. It's like any other show on the road; it must be kept clean and fresh.​

It sounds like the spirit of Walt Disney is dead at Walt Disney World.

 

[PeterAlt]

Another opinion I formed during my trip...

In Northern California, you have Silicon Valley south of San Francisco, known for its high tech industry, and Nappa Valley north of San Francisco, known for its wine. In Southern California, you have Hollywood, known for its movie and television studios. Las Vegas is known for its resorts and casinos. It is because of the specialties if these areas that attracts like-businesses and their customers to them and feeds off one another in an economic ecosystem.

What's Orlando's specialty? Among other things, it specializes in theme parks, attractions, and resorts. In order to make Orlando truly a specialized city in those areas, the local governments must recognize this specialty specifically and facilitate its economic growth in that area by building a metropolitan public infrastructure for tourists that would tie these elements together as one very competitive but unified capital market. The metropolitan area should have one infrastructure for its residents and workers and a completely separate infrastructure for visitors and tourists that by itself could be an attraction. Las Vegas has done this by enclosing the streets in downtown and with the light projections. They've also attempted to do this with the monorail system.

Orlando is on the right track with its recently announced airport improvements and what it is doing with the Orange County Convention Center and adjoining hotels. They need to connect all the attractions, resort hotels, airport, convention center, and major shopping areas to a fixed rail transportation network that people would travel a great distance just to see for itself. This system must stay separate from SunRail or any other future commuter rail or system workers and residents may use. Also, the creation of public entertainment spaces and art placed between attractions in spaces where people walk, allowing discovery, making things more interesting, as San Francisco is doing.

There's so much untapped potential for Orlando that it's not really funny. So much could be done that could spark a rapid growth economy in the Orlando area!

 

[rael ramone]

What got me was how she bragged about cost efficiency with pride and excitement. When I first heard the tone in her voice, I thought she was talking about how much better the DL versions of the rides were. But, when I listened more carefully, I was really stunned that what she was really doing was giving herself and her TDO team members a pat on the back for finding ways to cut costs on those very same attractions in DL I've been bragging about for being so much better than their WDW counterparts.

One person's seal of quality is another person's fiscal waste. Amazing.

I can picture how this 'traveling party' continued:

'Cloth Napkins, what a waste'.

'Being able to walk-in to a sit down, what a waste'.

'Being served fresh hot bread at lunch, what a waste'

'Bathrooms that are actually cleaner than the closest international airport, what a waste'.

And when they leave the park:

'Wow, cast members can afford to live 2 to an apartment here, and not in a west coast Igerville? what a waste'.

 

[rael ramone]

I know the Frozen gals were getting ready to move into the Norway pavilion, but looks like this little fury guy has set up shop. He joined us for a snack outside of the Kringla earlier today.

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Was it Mickey's cousin?

Wonder if there's any relation to my avatar (was under Spaceship Earth last October).

Maybe it's a new Meet and Greet. One designed to advertise Team Disney Orlando's commitment to park cleanliness...

 

[misterID]

Wonder if there's any relation to my avatar (was under Spaceship Earth last October).

Maybe it's a new Meet and Greet. One designed to advertise Team Disney Orlando's commitment to park cleanliness...

And apparently goes to show TDO's top of the line cost efficiency. They finally found a way to do a character M&G without any actual employees. They would have invested in putting red shorts on the mouse, but that's just soooo Disneyland and their wasteful spending ways...

 

[Californian Elitist]

I think you all may be interested in this...

When I was at DL earlier this week, while waiting in line for Indiana Jones, I overheard a woman talking with her group of friends about WDW. I introduced myself and told her that I couldn't help but overhear her conversation and told her I was from Florida. She told me she was from Orlando and works for TDO.

Later, while still in line, she continued talking to her group of friends. I listened in. She was bragging about how cost efficient TDO is compare to TDA. She talked about bloated and "unnecessary" spending at TDA, using Indiana Jones as one example. Using rides that I've been using as examples for why DLR is better than WDW in ride quality on a ride per ride basis (while talking to other people), she used as examples to brag about how TDO is brilliantly controlling operation costs and the wastefulness of TDA's operation costs.

I felt like interrupting and telling her that's nothing to brag about, as show quality is obviously much better at DLR, compared to its WDW equivalent. Even as we walked through the que area, she would point out show elements of the que and say things like "Totally unnecessary - high maintenance."

I guess it's a different mindset of corporate culture between the two Disney operations groups?

Why didn't you say anything???????

The audacity... I would have kindly debated with her, knowing I'd of won the debate. Perfect opportunity, right there. I would have liked to know why she was at Disneyland, since so much money has been wasted on the place.

Her comments aren't appealing to hear. They make you want to hit something...maybe that woman.

 

[cheezbat]

I was wondering how the Lorax scooters were going to look. And the JP ride vehicles look boss.The Gotham picture is going to make a lot of heads explode for a whole lot of different reasons.

That's definitely newer artwork. The Wayne logo in Gotham was used in the Dark Knight trilogy, as well as an Easter egg satellite image on Man of Steel.

Could this be for Universal Orlando? Maybe. But my guess is we'll see something like this pop up at the park in Japan or Singapore instead.