The Spirited Seventh Heaven ...

phillip sugarman

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I'm guessing the new place for Star Wars Land at Disneyland will be in Toontown. It makes sense because there is a lot of unused spaced there and most of the land consists of meet and greets and shops. Roger Rabbits Cartoon Spin could easily be moved to Hollywood land in dca. Gadgets go coaster could be easily taken out. They can also use the extra space behind Toontown where the Frontierland expansion was going to go.
 

TalkingHead

Well-Known Member
So?!?

Why should some absurd, unsourced statement go unchallenged?

This is where fanboi media gets us. There's no objectivity.

Disney or Universal PR statements go unchallenged in mainstream media publications, too.

From a distance, at least, Seth seems to have a little more integrity than the bloggers who report on WDW. He's upfront on those occasions he's been wined/dined at media events. He's not completely objective, but no journalist is.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
LOL. Sorry for bringing news that doesn't fit your narrative.

Because it is a statement that is pretty tough to believe at face value.

DAK attendance is roughly 11mil - so just work with rough numbers.. if you say that is 30k people on average.. UNI is only open 12hrs a day.. so the statement is that if HE is running at 2500ppl an hour average for the entire day.

Or someone is saying DAK's dailies are in the toilet. Both are pretty bold statements... so yeah, its not off base to question them and want some substance behind the claim.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
LOL. Sorry for bringing news that doesn't fit your narrative.


I don't have a narrative; I deal in facts. The fact is that park admission involves counting a person once. Ride attractions count people as many times as they go on an attraction. You're comparing apples and oranges.

As pointed out by someone else earlier, Haunted Mansion out draws IOA using the same comparison. It's not an equal nor a fair comparison.
 

manutdfan1

Active Member
Some of the egos on this board... :bored:

By the way, I easily rode the Hogwarts Express twice a day while at Uni last week. When the the wait was 20 minutes or less, it just made more sense than walking to the other park. So, I'm sure others do as well. Another thing to consider is the amount of riders on the HE is affected by two highly attended parks.

Although I do think the HE could be considered a cash grab, I'm completely fine with it. As someone said earlier, you don't have to leave the "magic", if you will, to hop parks. It's nice.
 

RSoxNo1

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Whoa:

"Despite the Gringotts ride still operating significantly below its maximum capacity of 2,000-plus riders per hour, Universal’s parks are processing record numbers of guests; on many days more people board the Hogwarts Express than enter Disney’s Animal Kingdom"

http://orlandoweekly.com/arts/visual/universal-s-project-340-and-epcot-norway-goes-frozen-1.1731237
I believe that the hourly capacity of Kilimanjaro Safaris can be higher than both sides of Hogwarts Express.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Spirited Wednesday Musings:

Sorry about the lack of postings, the real world takes precedence and it is far more enjoyable to watch powerbrokers squirm than it is to make fanbois cry.

I see there's an insane eight-page thread about Star Wars that wasn't here when I last checked in. I don't know what that was based on. Bob Iger saying the same thing he has been doing for the past few years? Sorry, but nothing is imminent on that front. And saying an announcement on adding to the parks more IP will come next year leaves him with a timeframe that will stretch, literally, until Episode VII opens before anyone will start calling him out.

But here's something for y'all to chew on. The current DLR plans for Star Wars call for a substantial reworking of an existing area for the new stuff. And it isn't where you think it is ... and it hasn't been said by one person online yet. And, yes, it will have some people thrilled and others fuming beyond belief.

Spirit, I'm going to take a WAG and postulate a retheme of the subs to Naboo - Imagine being trapped under water with JarJar Binks... while being chased by a giant sea creature who wants you as an appetizer.

This has all the elements of modern day TWDC

1 - Reuse of infrastructure - Check
2 - Use of unpopular characters - Check
3 - Can be done on the Cheap-n-Nasty - Check
4 - Complete miss on the potential of IP - Check
 

StageFrenzy

Well-Known Member
Some of the egos on this board... :bored:

By the way, I easily rode the Hogwarts Express twice a day while at Uni last week. When the the wait was 20 minutes or less, it just made more sense than walking to the other park. So, I'm sure others do as well. Another thing to consider is the amount of riders on the HE is affected by two highly attended parks.

Although I do think the HE could be considered a cash grab, I'm completely fine with it. As someone said earlier, you don't have to leave the "magic", if you will, to hop parks. It's nice.

Something IOA suffers from is lack of shelter. I remember I was in the park one time and it was raining and there was about 30 people huddled underneath the shelter of the cat in hat. With desperate TMs trying to move people out of the way so other people could come into the ride. On a rainy day I believe I would take the Hogwarts express to Diagon alley and hang out until the rain left.
 

NJBrandon

Well-Known Member
Because it is a statement that is pretty tough to believe at face value.

DAK attendance is roughly 11mil - so just work with rough numbers.. if you say that is 30k people on average.. UNI is only open 12hrs a day.. so the statement is that if HE is running at 2500ppl an hour average for the entire day.

Or someone is saying DAK's dailies are in the toilet. Both are pretty bold statements... so yeah, its not off base to question them and want some substance behind the claim.

UNI was open from 8-10 during the whole month of July(7-10 for Early Entry), so that's 14 hours to be working with, 15 for some guests. And it is definitely plausible that DAK attendance is down this summer because of DA opening up the road.
 

TalkingHead

Well-Known Member
And it is definitely plausible that DAK attendance is down this summer because of DA opening up the road.

Which is what he claims later in the article:

The Potter pandemonium has helped hold down crowds at Walt Disney World this summer, especially at Epcot and Animal Kingdom, with Magic Kingdom attendance fairly flat despite the widely publicized debut of the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. But Mickey isn’t one to take competition lying down, and the Mouse’s empire is striking back with the biggest hit it’s had in decades. Frozen Summer Fun, a short-run festival of hastily assembled entertainment including an ice-skating rink and evening fireworks, has proven enormously popular with fans of the frigid film phenomenon. Some park fans may scoff at the cheap giveaways (like paper Olafs on popsicle sticks) but the new sing-along celebration has the snarkiest, most smartly subversive script Disney has staged in years.

Yep, sounds like the ranting of a Universal homer.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
BTW, if someone posted the spoiler extra ending of GotG, then I'd vote that they be tarred and feathered ...

In retrospect, that is a very amusing turn of phrase. :)


Nah....
I just want a little tease for a future movie. Something to look forward to.
Not some random nonsense that really has no significance.
Everyone in the theatre just kinda...shrugged, like..."that was it?"

Well, like other folks have pointed out - there were more tidbits there, it just wasn't smack in your face obvious. The entire GotG film is a bit "off-kilter" compared to the rest of the Marvel films (so far), so I think it made perfect sense. The "here's a shot from next week's episode" thing is getting kind of boring, anyway (after waiting through endless credits for Days of Future Past, I still had to get on the Internet to see WTH the coda it was all about).

I'm way too close to the situation to talk about it in detail (largely because I don't know which specific details are public knowledge and what is not) - I did not know
Mr. Gerber, who is no longer with us, but I do know folks from his inner circle and not only do I think it definitely fit the tone of the film, it was a lovely, lovely thing to do after all that happened with him and that character. And as originally he was a Marvel character like any other, I wouldn't be so sure to dismiss him showing up in the future (but to be absolutely clear, I have zero knowledge of that happening). In any case, again, it was just a wonderful tribute for a character, and a man, who suffered the "Mommie Dearest" effect and doesn't get the credit he/they deserve in modern discourse.




Hell, I even loved the scene at the end of the credits (although someone here blew it for me and should have their knees broken). I realized that no one under 35 got it, but I don't care ... much better than some scene that basically teases a future film!

+1000.



It's too bad that EW didn't write the complete story on that one.

I was a bit surprised too at the headline, honestly, at first blush - though when you read the entire story, you also see that the mainstream press is kind of burying the lead - that WB announced the dates for the next NINE planned DC films between then and 2020. One of which is August 5, 2016 - so it's pretty smart of them to move SvB up a few months - the one mistake I think Marvel is making is scheduling films two months apart, dividing up their own audience instead of encouraging longer runs/repeat views. That gives SvB time to breathe - although today even hit films seem to come and go very quickly, Batman films traditionally (way back to '89) have staying power - heck, both Keaton's Batman and Dark Knight were both still playing in theaters when they were released on home video.

If announcing a full slate of movies doesn't show supreme confidence, I don't know what does. While I give all the props to Marvel for what it has done, and continues to do - I think there is room for both Universes - in spite of the media headlines, this was a smart move and shows they are throwing themselves behind the shared universe in a way that it took Marvel years to really commit to.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Spirit, I'm going to take a WAG and postulate a retheme of the subs to Naboo - Imagine being trapped under water with JarJar Binks... while being chased by a giant sea creature who wants you as an appetizer.

This has all the elements of modern day TWDC

1 - Reuse of infrastructure - Check
2 - Use of unpopular characters - Check
3 - Can be done on the Cheap-n-Nasty - Check
4 - Complete miss on the potential of IP - Check
excellent idea, but please... no jar jar.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Do you really think they will acknowledge this fix?

"Hey, did you guys know that yeti is supposed to move? Well guess what, we're finally going to fix it!"

I think they might just let word of mouth after it reopens do the job.

I think they will spin it as an "enhancement that was originally intended" and pretend/gloss over that he was (briefly) working to begin with. Disney Parks Blog makes it "headline news" when a princess drops a deuce, they won't miss out on promoting the heck out of this, should it actually happen (count me in the "I'll believe it when I see it" camp).
 

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