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[BrerJon]

I'm not talking about people who are openly sick. They will be quarantined. No doubt about that. What about the people they may have come in contact with? So the 2nd nurse boarded a flight to Cleveland and then spent a weekend with her family and some friends including dress shopping for her bridesmaids. Now the family members, friends, dress shop owner, flight crews and 260+ other people (130 people per flight each way) are under "observation". It's not an easy task to then quarantine each of them with armed guards. It has the potential to get out of hand quickly.

You do realise it's not an airborne virus, right?

 

[ford91exploder]

I'm not talking about people who are openly sick. They will be quarantined. No doubt about that. What about the people they may have come in contact with? So the 2nd nurse boarded a flight to Cleveland and then spent a weekend with her family and some friends including dress shopping for her bridesmaids. Now the family members, friends, dress shop owner, flight crews and 260+ other people (130 people per flight each way) are under "observation". It's not an easy task to then quarantine each of them with armed guards. It has the potential to get out of hand quickly.

You march them off to a quarantine camp, If they resist that's when the shooting starts which usually quiets things down quickly. Worked wonders for WW II Germany, Stalin, Mao and others.

 

[ford91exploder]

You do realise it's not an airborne virus, right?

Technically it's not airborne however it can be transmitted via aerosol (think sneeze) if you want to see how far a sneeze can go google 'Mythbusters Sneeze'.

The other problem is the virus load HIV/AIDS has about 50,000 per microliter, Ebola has 10,000,000,000 per microliter so its considerably more infectious.

 

[GoofGoof]

You do realise it's not an airborne virus, right?

This isn't coming from me. The CDC is requesting that people under "observation" take their temperature twice a day and report a fever or any symptoms that should they occur. These are people who may have come in direct contact with the person while they had symptoms. That's the protocol. It's remote that any of these people are actually sick, but it's a precaution. Sticking your head in the sand and saying there's no way it's gonna spread is why an infected person got on a plane and flew to another state. Nobody thinks it's gonna actually happen to them.

 

[PhotoDave219]

You do realise it's not an airborne virus, right?

Yes but there's something about Americans that means they have to touch everything. We are very tactile society.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Ebola update: I have landed in central Florida (full disclosure: departed from Columbus, not Cleveland) and am thus far exhibiting no signs of anything communicable. Of course, I avoid urine and fecal matter and habitually wash my hands, so I may not be an adequate test case. But if the internet has taught me anything, it's that anecdotal experiences trump peer reviewed test cases and double-blind studies every time.
Also, I'm really enjoying Vero Beach.
Have a great weekend, my loves!

I don't know what's in the water that has caused everybody to come to Orlando this weekend, but dear sweet baby Jesus… Explain to the other million tourists that I've shown up that if you do 20 miles an hour under the speed limit were going to be very unhappy.

We're also going to be unhappy if you block the bar and aisles of the store. Or take up the doorway looking at a map.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Technically it's not airborne however it can be transmitted via aerosol (think sneeze) if you want to see how far a sneeze can go google 'Mythbusters Sneeze'.

The other problem is the virus load HIV/AIDS has about 50,000 per microliter, Ebola has 10,000,000,000 per microliter so its considerably more infectious.

Well that will give me some nightmares… Thanks.

Mental note, don't touch anything for the next three weeks.

 

[ford91exploder]

Well that will give me some nightmares… Thanks.

Mental note, don't touch anything for the next three weeks.

Soon blue nitrile gloves will be a fashion statement.

 

[Goofyernmost]

People still think Japan is expensive, but when you're talking Disney you'd struggle to find anything in the parks that's cheaper at WDW. OLC puts a premium on like anywhere else, but doesn't seem to believe in gouging customers way above inflation like TWDC does.

When you factor in all that net "low cost" stuff, try and include what it costs to get there from say, the east coast of the U.S. Everyone seems to think that just about all others have the money available to do that. In spite of all the Guests that WDW has that come from foreign lands the percentage of the populations of those countries that actually are able to afford to go to WDW are probably low. However, it isn't the cost of admission that is holding them back, it is the cost of getting here. Same with all the loose talk about "just go to Japan, it is so much cheaper there". The admission price is just the tip of the iceberg.

I also do not understand why anyone should think that the cost of admission should or by some moralistic code, must be the same as the rate of inflation. This is a luxury item and as such doesn't rule by inflationary figures. It is ruled by the age old business philosophy of "whatever the market will bear". Stop paying it, the cost will go down. Nothing could be simpler. It's not like you need a new motor for your Iron Lung, it isn't necessary and therefore there is not any connection at all. It is an absolutely incorrect method of comparison. It's like comparing apples to the Hope Diamond. Also none of those other places have ever become a right of passage that we Americans have made WDW, so even socially it has no bearing on how many people go there.

 

[Mike S]

Soon blue nitrile gloves will be a fashion statement.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Well that will give me some nightmares… Thanks.

Mental note, don't touch anything for the next three weeks.

You're hands are going to be baby soft by Christmas. I'm sure glad that panic isn't setting in. I'm getting amused by the headlines. One person shows up with the virus and all of a sudden Ebola has broken out in the region. Personally, I'd much rather die from living then live in fear. I'm not saying not to take certain precautions when something actually does exist, just stay somewhere on board with reality.

 

[PhotoDave219]

You're hands are going to be baby soft by Christmas. I'm sure glad that panic isn't setting in. I'm getting amused by the headlines. One person shows up with the virus and all of a sudden Ebola has broken out in the region. Personally, I'd much rather die from living then live in fear. I'm not saying not to take certain precautions when something actually does exist, just stay somewhere on board with reality.

Oh there's no way I'm ever going to contract the disease. I will never travel to West Africa. I will likely never coming to contact with people who do travel to West Africa.

 

[TeriofTerror]

I don't know what's in the water that has caused everybody to come to Orlando this weekend, but dear sweet baby Jesus… Explain to the other million tourists that I've shown up that if you do 20 miles an hour under the speed limit were going to be very unhappy.

We're also going to be unhappy if you block the bar and aisles of the store. Or take up the doorway looking at a map.
The me generation from Reaganomics appears to have children they're even worse than them, and they all come to Disney.

You are so right. My husband and I were discussing in MCO that people should use traditional driving rules/practices/curtesies when walking in a congested area. When is stopping in the middle of a busy thoroughfare a good idea?! And driving 20 MPH below the posted speed? Not a problem for me. There's a reason my husband prefers to drive - my notorious lead foot.

 

[ford91exploder]

This isn't coming from me. The CDC is requesting that people under "observation" take their temperature twice a day and report a fever or any symptoms that should they occur. These are people who may have come in direct contact with the person while they had symptoms. That's the protocol. It's remote that any of these people are actually sick, but it's a precaution. Sticking your head in the sand and saying there's no way it's gonna spread is why an infected person got on a plane and flew to another state. Nobody thinks it's gonna actually happen to them.

Except for the emergency management professionals (not the 'so called leadership' thereof) who are sure IT IS going to happen and are aging ovenight.

 

[GoofGoof]

Oh there's no way I'm ever going to contract the disease. I will never travel to West Africa. I will likely never coming to contact with people who do travel to West Africa.

The good news is that after the mess up in Dallas any future Ebola cases that show up in the US will be transferred to the 4 or 5 hospitals that are actually equipped to treat it.

 

[GoofGoof]

Except for the emergency management professionals (not the 'so called leadership' thereof) who are sure IT IS going to happen and are aging ovenight.

In less than 3 weeks when the incubation period is over on the current cases they can get some sleep again...unless more cases pop up. I'm not worried about it personally and I don't think too many people outside of the hospital workers in Dallas are either, but if a case pops up in Ohio I think people will start to get a little more concerned.

 

[Nubs70]

Quarantines like this are usually backed up by men with guns, A M2 Bradley opening up on a crowd with the bushmaster M242 25 MM auto cannon will clear up most demonstrations quite nicely.

For larger demonstrations a FAE munition will kill everyone in the open. Kent State will be a happy memory compared to the tools available to the government these days to suppress civil unrest.

However, the Bushmaster tends to spread bodily fluids.

 

[Nubs70]

In less than 3 weeks when the incubation period is over on the current cases they can get some sleep again...unless more cases pop up. I'm not worried about it personally and I don't think too many people outside of the hospital workers in Dallas are either, but if a case pops up in Ohio I think people will start to get a little more concerned.

FYI, today the WHO increased the 21 day incubation period to 42 days.

 

[GoofGoof]

FYI, today the WHO increased the 21 day incubation period to 42 days.

Dragging it out through fall sweeps week should be a windfall for the news networks.

 

[ford91exploder]

However, the Bushmaster tends to spread bodily fluids.

That it does. But the flamethrowers used immediately after will take care of that.