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AEfx

AEfx

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Smiddimizer said:
You should watch an interview with him. Really quick, funny guy. Doesn't at all strike me as a hack the way he does some. I'm not at all interested in his HBO show out now, but some of his earlier work on Lost (with Carlton Cuse--yes there's actually someone else you can blame for train-wrecking S6!) is some of the best **** television out there (we have to go back!!)
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I almost referenced "We have to go back" in my post, LOL.

That easily is in the top 5 of greatest scripted TV moments, ever - it makes Bobby's "Good morning" in the shower look like a minor plot twist, LOL.

That's another reason S6 felt so underwhelming - introducing another flash-blank felt gimmicky, you can't capture that lightning in a bottle twice. The first time they did it, it came out of nowhere - instead of laboriously spending an entire season building up to something that wasn't terribly interesting or materially relevant to the previous five seasons. Again, it would have worked well as the finale - but it was dragged out so long I couldn't do much more than roll my eyes.
 
AEfx

AEfx

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Captain Neo said:
They need to demolish the Tomorrowland's in Anaheim and Orlando and rebuild them like Shanghai's. SDL's TL (and the TL movie concept art) is exactly what a modern 21st century TL should look like. The American parks are laughably outdated and a hodge podge mix of random ideas and old imagineer vanity projects.
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You forgot "...except for WS, which was thematically perfect and should never be touched by the hair of it's chinny-chin-chin".
 
Captain Neo

Captain Neo

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WDW1974 said:
The film is done, as far as I know, or at least filming. But it is meant as an opening day attraction for SDL, and I doubt VERY strongly that the CCP is going to allow Disney to pluck another opening day exclusive and open it in Florida first like they did with HKDL's Mickey's PhilharMagic.

There's also FL specific issues of upgrading projectors and whether or not the 3rd theater gets added.

So, yeah, this film is years away from debuting here.
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Does the CCP even care? Like would they be actively checking for that? Seems kind of petty
Also where in SDL is Soarin' going? Adventureland?
 
Captain Neo

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sns-wp-blm-news-bc-disney09-20141009-story.html

"We have a brand that we're proud of, that we seek to protect," Iger said. "Unless you invest in continuing to burnish that brand, making the experience great, whether that's what the hotels look like, or the rides, or whether we're developing new ones, that's really important. Unless you invest in it, it's not going to succeed."

Bob Iger is the new Frank Wells confirmed!
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Captain Neo said:
They need to demolish the Tomorrowland's in Anaheim and Orlando and rebuild them like Shanghai's. SDL's TL (and the TL movie concept art) is exactly what a modern 21st century TL should look like. The American parks are laughably outdated and a hodge podge mix of random ideas and old imagineer vanity projects.
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"I want the shiny new toy, NOW!"

I love how after seeing one piece of concept art and one teaser trailer you're willing to throw everything about Tomorrowland '94 under the bus, despite it's proven potential (remember how good it was before Stitch?) and the fact that they just spent months refurbishing Astro Orbitor. If anything, each Tomorrowland should have its own unique look, instead of hastily revamping them all to tie into a movie that, for all we know, could flop in May.
 
AEfx

AEfx

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Animaniac93-98 said:
"I want the shiny new toy, NOW!"

I love how after seeing one piece of concept art and one teaser trailer you're willing to throw everything about Tomorrowland '94 under the bus, despite it's proven potential (remember how good it was before Stitch?) and the fact that they just spent months refurbishing Astro Orbitor. If anything, each Tomorrowland should have its own unique look, instead of hastily revamping them all to tie into a movie that, for all we know, could flop in May.
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One attraction (Stitch) didn't really "damage" - Stitch is an Alien after-all, it's not completely far-fetched - it's just that the quality of the attraction has always been in question.

If anything, MILF was really the turning point - which doesn't fit in any way, shape, or form that I can deduce.

In any case, even famed Imagineers have cited the "Tomorrowland-issue" which is that the Tomorrowland design is based on the future as perceived in the 1950's - and even the 94' makeover didn't greatly change that. The only park that got it close was DLP because they accepted the juxtaposition of the future based on the past (so to speak).

All that said, that trailer did nothing for me - looks like yet another chosen-one-teen-must-save-dystopian-society Hunger Games knock-off. Even the presence of Clooney doesn't make me have any interest in it whatsoever.
 
bhg469

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AEfx said:
Somehow I do think Lee was fun-ning with his reference to Phantoms (something tells me it isn't his cup of tea LOL) but it was a decent flick - with the aforementioned pre-makeover Affleck and pre-whatever-the-heck-she-did-to-her-face Rose McGowan.
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No, he was referencing jay and silent bob strike back. Of that I am certain. It goes back to the DVD commentary for I believe was "chasing amy" where they kept referring to Ben, jokingly, as "phantom's Ben Affleck"
 
Lee

Lee

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StarBurst said:
lol phantoms

yea Ben was quite good in it also. he is bulked up for batman

the detective played by Kim dickens was such an interesting and smart character, shes also a very good actress..
and who knew doogie howser could portray such a sleazy menace convincingly?

ETA it was as good as the book IMO.a rare feat
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Agreed about Kim Dickens. Plus, she earned a lifetime of awesome from being on Deadwood.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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AEfx said:
One attraction (Stitch) didn't really "damage" - Stitch is an Alien after-all, it's not completely far-fetched - it's just that the quality of the attraction has always been in question.

If anything, MILF was really the turning point - which doesn't fit in any way, shape, or form that I can deduce.
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I picked Stitch for both quality and relevance to theme. It didn't ruin the land completely, but it was the begining of a downward trend.

AEfx said:
In any case, even famed Imagineers have cited the "Tomorrowland-issue" which is that the Tomorrowland design is based on the future as perceived in the 1950's - and even the 94' makeover didn't greatly change that. The only park that got it close was DLP because they accepted the juxtaposition of the future based on the past (so to speak).
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But both Discoveryland and Tomorrowland '94 use the same logic of "future based on the past". Heck, they both had Timekeeper in their attraction line-ups. The only difference is whether or not you prefer steam punk to Buck Rogers. I like Discoveryland better myself, but I fail to see how Tomorrowland '94 (from a design perspective) is any more "dated" in that sense.

Since Captain EO and Star Tours in the 80s, Tomorrowland has really just been Sci-fi Land anyway in practice. I don't mind myself, but I doubt Shanghai will radically change that. They're still getting a Tron coaster over something like another version of House of the Future.

AEfx said:
Even the presence of Clooney doesn't make me have any interest in it whatsoever.
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I don't care for Clooney one way or the other so his presence doesn't make or break the movie's interest for me.
 
Lee

Lee

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AEfx said:
Somehow I do think Lee was fun-ning with his reference to Phantoms (something tells me it isn't his cup of tea LOL) but it was a decent flick - with the aforementioned pre-makeover Affleck and pre-whatever-the-heck-she-did-to-her-face Rose McGowan.
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Phantoms was ok. The book was better.
My post was also a Jay & Silent Bob reference.

(Language warning for sensitive types...)
 
Mike S

Mike S

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Animaniac93-98 said:
"I want the shiny new toy, NOW!"

I love how after seeing one piece of concept art and one teaser trailer you're willing to throw everything about Tomorrowland '94 under the bus, despite it's proven potential (remember how good it was before Stitch?) and the fact that they just spent months refurbishing Astro Orbitor. If anything, each Tomorrowland should have its own unique look, instead of hastily revamping them all to tie into a movie that, for all we know, could flop in May.
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Yeah, this still works really well.
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FigmentJedi

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AEfx said:
If anything, MILF was really the turning point - which doesn't fit in any way, shape, or form that I can deduce.
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The industrial setting and the whole door portals between a human world and a monster pocket dimension thing makes people think sci-fi, when if anything, it's just an urbanized modern magical land.

It becomes more apparent when looking at some material on the original Monsters Inc DVD about the origins of monsters (and that Pixar Treasure book had an extended timeline. They made this as part of trying to get into that "Monster World" headspace in development) as having been some competing race of hominids we drove to sea that found some strange unchartable magic island that turned them into weird things when they ate the food (And normies eating faerieland food always has some sort of consequences in these sorts of tales). Becoming aware of their monstrous forms, they decided to frighten humans in revenge and that interspecies grudge has existed throughout all of human history. It'd be great if Pixar remembered they did that stuff because Tales of Monster History would sure be a better use of DisneyToon's time then those stupid Planes movies.
 
Next Big Thing

Next Big Thing

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AEfx said:
YOU - yes YOU! - are the reason we cannot have nice things. You are giving tacit permission to TDO to ruin the entire Epcot experience!

(Bet you had no idea how much power you had, huh?)
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Ah, the one who comes in and screams that the guest is the problem. Classic. Never gets old.
 

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