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PrincessNelly_NJ

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Okay, I give up. After a vacation and working a lot lately, I just had to skip 150 pages. I couldn't stand being so far behind. .. And I was doing so well with keeping up with this thread, too. Ah well. @WDW1974 's thread is just too popular a place!
@Virtual Insanity Did a summary about 15 pages back....

"To recap the last few pages for those just tuning in:
People found the Google trends button

In another installment of Disney vs Uni, today’s episode is: Who had bigger new attraction opening days?

And of course we can’t have a thread without having some predictions. Currently it’s which movie will be bigger Avatar 2 or Star Wars VII. The answer is they will both make a crap load of money."

Other than that... we learned @lebeau has a smokin hot wife, UNI/Disney/Marvel contract, Hotel occupancy in WDW & Orlando, Le Cellier might be more of a gentlemen's club than steakhouse, Disney has special sausages, and Hidden Valley Ranch is better than Kraft but Ken's Blue Cheese is the best overall.
 

seascape

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@Virtual Insanity Did a summary about 15 pages back....

"To recap the last few pages for those just tuning in:
People found the Google trends button

In another installment of Disney vs Uni, today’s episode is: Who had bigger new attraction opening days?

And of course we can’t have a thread without having some predictions. Currently it’s which movie will be bigger Avatar 2 or Star Wars VII. The answer is they will both make a crap load of money."

Other than that... we learned @lebeau has a smokin hot wife, UNI/Disney/Marvel contract, Hotel occupancy in WDW & Orlando, Le Cellier might be more of a gentlemen's club than steakhouse, Disney has special sausages, and Hidden Valley Ranch is better than Kraft but Ken's Blue Cheese is the best overall.
But we still all want to eat at WaWa.
 

bhg469

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@Virtual Insanity Did a summary about 15 pages back....

"To recap the last few pages for those just tuning in:
People found the Google trends button

In another installment of Disney vs Uni, today’s episode is: Who had bigger new attraction opening days?

And of course we can’t have a thread without having some predictions. Currently it’s which movie will be bigger Avatar 2 or Star Wars VII. The answer is they will both make a crap load of money."

Other than that... we learned @lebeau has a smokin hot wife, UNI/Disney/Marvel contract, Hotel occupancy in WDW & Orlando, Le Cellier might be more of a gentlemen's club than steakhouse, Disney has special sausages, and Hidden Valley Ranch is better than Kraft but Ken's Blue Cheese is the best overall.
I must have missed the wife part! Congrats @lebeau !

I'm dying at this recap!!
 

gmajew

Premium Member
This thread is off course. Can we please keep it to its purpose and not get into more marvel or universal fights. I love reading the thread but 15 pages in a few hours is nuts.
 

Mr. Moderate

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Well, I wouldn't say UNI resorts are affordable either. But is what you get actually worth it? Yup.
I just paid $381 for one night at HRH and I'm okay with it. I can't say that I would pay $300 a night for any hotel in Disney!
UNI resorts actually give guest real deluxe quality and you can't beat FOTL access!


You ever want to see how far off WDW hotel rooms are from reality, check out pricing of the deluxe offerings you will find offsite. I check stuff like this out all the time and it amazes me. For example The Ritz Carlton can be had as low as $200 dollars a night when looking for deals. I've actually seen it. The Waldorf Astoria has special deals as well and can be had for the price of WDW moderate and both hotels I've mentioned are considered in the industry as world class, flag ship style resorts. Try pricing the GF and standard garden view rooms are well over $600 a night, I know because I check the WDW deluxes pricing regularly as well. Tower room at the CR is sky high as well and of course the Poly is always high and will be climbing even more as the resort gets done with it's transformation


Last October for 3 nights, I had the opportunity to meet up with some old friends and decided to stay onsite at WDW in a value because I had no DVC points left for that year and I wanted to try it. I paid a rack rate for a preferred room at Pop in the $150 dollar range a night and not including tax. While the room was clean, I found Pop Century not worth that price at all, the food court offerings just gross, and I was kicking myself for not staying offsite. I had a deal to get the Hilton Bonnet Creek for $139 a night and I should have taken that and there were others as well. I stayed at Pop for the convenience of no rental car, M.E, and thought it would be easier, but it really wasn't when you add up everything. IMHO, I really think WDW needs to rethink their pricing structure of all their resort hotels/motels. I don't see how they're going to be able to justify the very high rack rate at the GF for example, when the soon to be opened Four Seasons Resort is coming soon and you have the near by Waldorf as well offing better service and much better rates.
 

Quinnmac000

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http://www.rotoscopers.com/2014/07/...ks-may-be-part-of-illegal-wage-fixing-cartel/
Thought @WDW1974 could possibly elaborate on this? If this is true what a damn shame it is.

So Lucasfilms, Pixar, Dreamworks, and Disney Animation Studios are making it so people join their companies and then pay them low wages and pretty much not be able to transfer to other studios? How is that going to benefit the animation sector when you aren't changing out bodies and levels of creativity? Shame indeed.
 

Cesar R M

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What can I say? It's good to be me. :D
I swear I imagined someone behind a computer, smiling then crying at same time.. as he knew he was lying. As His wife was actually a Consuela clone. :hilarious:

curse my overactive imagination!

This thread is off course. Can we please keep it to its purpose and not get into more marvel or universal fights. I love reading the thread but 15 pages in a few hours is nuts.
the whole marvel vs universal was supposed to shed some information regarding contracts. Aka a spirirted real theme... until it became (again)a fanboy fest-fight between disney paid guerrilla netwarfare vs Uni camp.
 
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arko

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You ever want to see how far off WDW hotel rooms are from reality, check out pricing of the deluxe offerings you will find offsite. I check stuff like this out all the time and it amazes me. For example The Ritz Carlton can be had as low as $200 dollars a night when looking for deals. I've actually seen it. The Waldorf Astoria has special deals as well and can be had for the price of WDW moderate and both hotels I've mentioned are considered in the industry as world class, flag ship style resorts. Try pricing the GF and standard garden view rooms are well over $600 a night, I know because I check the WDW deluxes pricing regularly as well. Tower room at the CR is sky high as well and of course the Poly is always high and will be climbing even more as the resort gets done with it's transformation


Last October for 3 nights, I had the opportunity to meet up with some old friends and decided to stay onsite at WDW in a value because I had no DVC points left for that year and I wanted to try it. I paid a rack rate for a preferred room at Pop in the $150 dollar range a night and not including tax. While the room was clean, I found Pop Century not worth that price at all, the food court offerings just gross, and I was kicking myself for not staying offsite. I had a deal to get the Hilton Bonnet Creek for $139 a night and I should have taken that and there were others as well. I stayed at Pop for the convenience of no rental car, M.E, and thought it would be easier, but it really wasn't when you add up everything. IMHO, I really think WDW needs to rethink their pricing structure of all their resort hotels/motels. I don't see how they're going to be able to justify the very high rack rate at the GF for example, when the soon to be opened Four Seasons Resort is coming soon and you have the near by Waldorf as well offing better service and much better rates.

That 139 at Bonnet Creek is a bit of misnomer as you pay a resort fee of 22$ a night and parking for 18$ a day. Don't get me wrong Hilton Bonnet Creek is head and shoulders above Pop Century, but the price is not a one to one comparison.
 

fosse76

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My point is that Disney gets money for nothing. All the costs involved are Uni's. Yes I am positive Uni still nets a profit but so does Disney. Disney benefits from the deal that they had nothing to do with.
They benefit monetarily, but only minisculy. It's a flat fee. Only merchandise sales will see a fluctuation in what Universal pays Marvel/Disney. It's a negligible amount, and Universal benefits substantially. What Disney loses is the ability to exploit their own IP. Disney isn't getting money for nothing.
 

Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
You ever want to see how far off WDW hotel rooms are from reality, check out pricing of the deluxe offerings you will find offsite. I check stuff like this out all the time and it amazes me. For example The Ritz Carlton can be had as low as $200 dollars a night when looking for deals. I've actually seen it. The Waldorf Astoria has special deals as well and can be had for the price of WDW moderate and both hotels I've mentioned are considered in the industry as world class, flag ship style resorts. Try pricing the GF and standard garden view rooms are well over $600 a night, I know because I check the WDW deluxes pricing regularly as well. Tower room at the CR is sky high as well and of course the Poly is always high and will be climbing even more as the resort gets done with it's transformation


Last October for 3 nights, I had the opportunity to meet up with some old friends and decided to stay onsite at WDW in a value because I had no DVC points left for that year and I wanted to try it. I paid a rack rate for a preferred room at Pop in the $150 dollar range a night and not including tax. While the room was clean, I found Pop Century not worth that price at all, the food court offerings just gross, and I was kicking myself for not staying offsite. I had a deal to get the Hilton Bonnet Creek for $139 a night and I should have taken that and there were others as well. I stayed at Pop for the convenience of no rental car, M.E, and thought it would be easier, but it really wasn't when you add up everything. IMHO, I really think WDW needs to rethink their pricing structure of all their resort hotels/motels. I don't see how they're going to be able to justify the very high rack rate at the GF for example, when the soon to be opened Four Seasons Resort is coming soon and you have the near by Waldorf as well offing better service and much better rates.

The main problem with Disney resorts is that they are highly utilized, they maintain the occupancy rates they want and charge the rates they do. There are deals to be had at other places, discounts at many Disney Deluxe resorts too but those "deals" generate a lot of occupancy that is very profitable. Their problem now is that if they drop them much at all, occupancy will reach near 100% but their total profit will not increase much, there is simply no incentive for them to reduce rates past the select discount offers they do have.
 

Lord_Vader

Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
Blind ignorance of their consumers.

Not blind ignorance on the consumers part, well maybe some of them anyway, but a choice to pay the price to be where they want to be. A lot of the people around my office that are taking their children choose to stay where they do fully knowing the prices they are paying are high but they want to stay where they do and are willing to pay.

Never interested in GF but we do stay in other Deluxe resorts but GF, no way.
 

Mr. Moderate

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That 139 at Bonnet Creek is a bit of misnomer as you pay a resort fee of 22$ a night and parking for 18$ a day. Don't get me wrong Hilton Bonnet Creek is head and shoulders above Pop Century, but the price is not a one to one comparison.

I understand what you're saying, but I wouldn't have had to pay for parking as I would have gotten a cab or a car service to drop me off. I think the slight extra that I might have paid over the rate I got at Pop would have been far worth it, imo. After staying at Pop, I can honestly say I don't think it's worth more than $80 to $90 bucks a night and less for the rooms that are further away. I just didn't see the value, especially in the food court and never again will I eat there.
 

Figments Friend

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So with all the talk about Universal and the crowd scene photos being shared here, it had me thinking about something earlier today.
When was the last time we saw huge throngs of people line up to experience a new attraction at WDW?

Now please do not think i am trying to start yet another 'Uni vrs. WDW' thing.....no no no.
Not my scene and others have already covered that 40,000 times already.
That is not the point of my comment.
I am actually quite curious about what it may have been for most recently, as my mind is drawing a blank at the moment.
Age is catching up with me and i need my memory jogged as to when something like the crowd turnout for Diagon Alley happened for a Attraction, Land, or even Park most recently at WDW.

The only thing i can think of coming close in scope is when Star Tours opened at Disneyland back in 1987.
I still hear fans rave about that experience..the day....and how long they had to wait to ride.
That may have been the 'big one' for the West Coast Park....but who here remembers the 'big one' that happened recently at the East Coast Parks..?
 

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