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seascape

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Please. They aren't making anyone do anything. If people want to experience both parts of Potter, then they buy two-park tickets. If they don't, they don't have to.

Your analogy is off because Hogwart's Express is going to be maintained unlike the monorail ... oh, and it is an attraction, not simply transportation. In other words, your point is weak and not valid.
UNI is absolutely a better value when it comes to what they are offering for the price of admission (whether the ticket is one day one park, multi-day, or AP) than Disney.
You are wrong. A person can buy a 2 day ticket, one full day in each park but can't ride the train. From what everyone has posted it will not be possible to do both in one day so they are charging their customers more. Also in comparison to Disney, for those who want to be very cheap and save every penny possible you can park at Downtown Disney for free and take Disney transportation to the parks for free.
 

mahnamahna101

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Universal is not a better value for families. Particularly ones with young kids, or adults who don't want to be spun around or doused with water on ever ride. Or for people who don't like all their amusement park rides to be screened based.


I think your next thread should be called a Spirited Axe to Grind.
Disney isn't a good value for those who don't want 40 year old AAs or Omnimovers... particularly those over the age of 8 and under the age of 40. Also those who want something remotely thrilling or want rides with tech from the last 10 years.

Here's what young kids can do at IOA and USF or will be able to do (40" and under since the average 5 yr old is that tall)
  1. Storm Force Acceleration
  2. The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man
  3. Me Ship the Olive
  4. Upcoming Kong E-ticket
  5. Camp Jurassic
  6. Pteranodon Flyers
  7. Discovery Center
  8. Flight of the Hippogriff
  9. Triwizard Spirit Rally
  10. Frog Choir
  11. Ollivander's
  12. Hogwarts Express
  13. The Eighth Voyage of Sinbad
  14. Mystic Fountain
  15. Poseidon's Fury
  16. Seuss Trolley
  17. Caro-Seuss-El
  18. One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish
  19. Oh, the Stories You'll Hear!
  20. The Cat in the Hat
  21. If I Ran the Zoo
  22. Despicable Me - Minion Mayhem
  23. Shrek 4D
  24. Transformers - The Ride 3D
  25. Twister - Ride it Out
  26. The Blues Brothers Live on Stage
  27. Disaster
  28. Beetlejuice's Graveyard Revue
  29. Borgin and Burkes
  30. Fear Factor Live
  31. Kang and Kodos' Twirl n' Hurl
  32. The Simpsons Ride
  33. Animal Actors
  34. E.T. Adventure
  35. Fievel's Playland
  36. StarToons
  37. A Day in the Park With Barney
  38. Curious George Goes to Town
  39. Woody Woodpecker's Nuthouse Coaster
  40. T2 3D
  41. Upcoming Gardens of Allah museum
  42. Lucy - A Tribute
  43. Universal's Cinematic Spectacular
  44. Universal's Superstar Parade
44 attractions that the average 5 year old should be able to experience at Universal Orlando or will be able to next year. Throw in the KidZone revamp, future family-friendly additions in say the mystery plot, any Seuss expansion, the Trikes plot and the front area of Toon Lagoon... plenty of room to provide more things for little ones (3 and under).

Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom probably don't match that list of attractions in terms of what young children can do.
 

articos

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I know people have said that budgets were cut (they always are). I'm sure they're minor quibbles in the grand scheme of things, but some things that I was expecting were as follows:
  • Motion on the dragon... a head swivel, a wave of the wings, something
  • Tapping on the bricks to mean something. Think D23 Expo reveal into Carousel of Projects. I get that they don't have a direct view into Diagon Alley so there's a reveal, but having bricks hinge out for groups of 50 at a time would be pretty epic.
  • The 9 3/4 platform effect. At the right angle you can get video of it, that's pretty much it. I have no idea how they could have made it work better, but it doesn't seem all that good.
Sorry, spoilered the bullet points
Answers:
1: Budget and maintenance, plus when adding that to pyro fx you add another element of potential failure. It just is what it is. K.I.S.S.
2: There is no way to make this work with the crowds expected. It would end up being just shut off by Ops and the doors (so to speak) being left open. We also have to worry about crowds and crush hazards and fire marshals and operational concerns...etc...etc...
3: See above.
 

Nemo14

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You are wrong. A person can buy a 2 day ticket, one full day in each park but can't ride the train. From what everyone has posted it will not be possible to do both in one day so they are charging their customers more. Also in comparison to Disney, for those who want to be very cheap and save every penny possible you can park at Downtown Disney for free and take Disney transportation to the parks for free.

:confused:
 

lebeau

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Universal is not a better value for families. Particularly ones with young kids, or adults who don't want to be spun around or doused with water on ever ride. Or for people who don't like all their amusement park rides to be screened based.

There are families for whom Disney World is a better fit. As we have very young children, we currently fit into that group. But we're not far from outgrowing Disney. That's probably something they should be concerned about. Because eventually, families with very young children and nostalgic adults may be the only ones left.
 

rioriz

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My only complaint thus far with DA is the Dragon.....eh yeti I know....but no movement at all bothers me for some reason.

May not be popular but Maleficent > DA dragon
 

articos

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Once again, a horrible comparison. Diagon Alley has tall buildings and is a tight space. Hogsmeade felt cramped even when it wasn't because of the scale. Cars Land doesn't have that same feel and I was there 2 weeks after opening.
DA is much larger (and feels surprisingly more open) than it looks, while still managing to capture the imposing-ness of what the Alley is supposed to feel like. It will still be crowded, however.
 
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EpcoTim

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Universal is not a better value for families. Particularly ones with young kids, or adults who don't want to be spun around or doused with water on ever ride. Or for people who don't like all their amusement park rides to be screened based.


I think your next thread should be called a Spirited Axe to Grind.

A screen based ride where you get doused with water?

Now that's cool.
 

Funmeister

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Does anyone remember or have a pic of how far the line was to get into Wizarding World when it first opened? I think the only time Disney came close to a line that long was when Indy opened at Disneyland. Also, keep in mind...the line for Indy was for a single attraction...the line at IOA for Potter was to get into the entire land. Can't wait to see how DA compares. I am sure it will be much longer with the additional publicity this go 'round.
 

articos

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I put it through the search engine, and I think it was Bruce Vaughn who said it. Evidently the entire quote was, "Bring it on. No one can touch us."

Shouldn't he know better?
If it was Bruce, I stand corrected. Knowing his personality, he's just being Bruce, and may have thought he was being half joking but also standing up for his company. He knows the quality level that Potter is at, though, so he knows he's got competition.
 

FigmentJedi

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Does anyone remember or have a pic of how far the line was to get into Wizarding World when it first opened? I think the only time Disney came close to a line that long was when Indy opened at Disneyland. Also, keep in mind...the line for Indy was for a single attraction...the line at IOA for Potter was to get into the entire land. Can't wait to see how DA compares. I am sure it will be much longer with the additional publicity this go 'round.
And the traffic will probably be going both ways. Just think of all the people that want to come to Diagon Alley the scenic way through riding the Hogwarts Express.
 

Funmeister

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Futuroscope is an amazing park. Guess what? It is a movie-based park. Just about everything there utilizes a movie. That is what it is. It is pretty successful. Too bad so many people are hung up on movie-based attractions. Sad to discount something because it is not in a certain format that you prefer.
 

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