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GoofGoof

GoofGoof

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BrerJon said:
There's no infrastructure or show buildings needed, the rides themselves are off-the-shelf, so it shouldn't take too long at all to build with any logic, but this is TDO we are talking about, think of a number and double it when it comes to construction times.
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Agreed. It will likely take longer than it should. In this case clearing the land may take longer than construction.

We don't know for sure what they will build. We do have a lot of smoke surrounding a Toy Story themed playland that may or may not include some of the rides from Paris or possibly Mater from CA. One thing we know from past experience is they will likely open things in phases. IMHO the Toy Story area with more simple rides along with the expanded TSMM will be first up. It makes the most sense and would immediately boost capacity allowing them to potentially close things like LMA and Indy so the land can be used for additional attractions in phase 2 or phase 3.

At this point I expect StarWarsLand last. In between I'm hoping that there is something else of substance in the works for Pixar. There pretty much has to be unless they are spending a billion on SW alone.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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PhotoDave219 said:
We don't even have rumors of exactly what they're going to do… There is no need to get righteously indignant yet.

What we do know? Something is coming. Most likely something pics are related in the back corner of the park. We know toys story is expanding Capacity. And we know it has absolutely nothing to do with the rumored Star Wars expansion.

Anything beyond that? Just truly a wild guess. Nothing is even Close to a solid rumor let alone in the ballpark of been confirmed.

What I worry about is something like a canary trap. Wherein, you throw out mis information, see where it appears, and then you know who's leaking your information.
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I think a LOT of these rumors are indeed 'Canary Traps', Used by TWDC to weed out the leakers. Spirit's info seems to come from high enough on the TWDC food chain that the leaker is more or less immune to retaliation.

It's also why I don't get excited about the 'New Things' because the only rumors which seem to be valid these days involves subtractions of experiences at WDW. The rest 'Meh 'show me'

Below is the Wiki on how a 'Canary Trap' works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_trap
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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danlb_2000 said:
Very little of the discussion about that new aerials has been 100% speculation.
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Not really. The aerial views really only tell you what they have gotten done up to that point. You still don't know what the work that has been done already is going to eventually be. It is just a guess at best. Might be true, might be something completely different. So... still speculation.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Goofyernmost said:
Not really. The aerial views really only tell you what they have gotten done up to that point. You still don't know what the work that has been done already is going to eventually be. It is just a guess at best. Might be true, might be something completely different. So... still speculation.
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Except in this case we have leaked floor plans and photos of the model that perfectly match the build site. There's always some speculation, but this time it's more informed than not.
 
Nubs70

Nubs70

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ford91exploder said:
THIS - It's not rocket science folks, Easy enough to put this under computer control to pause the show if wind conditions change to enhance guest safety and announce this to the guests. Yes it may 'ruin' a few shows but imagine what would happen if a stroller was set afire by a off course firework and a kid got hurt. That would be the END of pyro at WDW (just like Monorail pilot rides - BTW STILL available at DL).
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Or a simple sprinkler system with 2 settings. A simple misting option to prewet areas of SDMT and mermaid. Who knows with some uplighting it could be a really neat effect. Second setting is full on deluge (or "" mode) if incipient fire takes hold.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Kman101 said:
And why aren't people seemingly understanding this?

And no, maybe TSPL and it's "rides" aren't exactly what the park needs. The fact is people want E-tickets. Folks, we have a park that desperately needs to be built out. No one seems to hate Bugs Land. Because it's Toy Story it's suddenly Chester and Hester's?

The park needs at least two solid D/E attractions (honestly, three), as well as several smaller attractions. Stop focusing on them being 'kiddy" rides. Don't most adults seem to love Mater's? How is RC Racer a kiddy ride? How is Parachute Drop where you go up in the air a kiddy ride? And those aren't even confirmed for us. I just don't get the outrage.
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Throwing out my strong support here. Bug's land is a "kiddie land" filled with attractions designed for the preschool crowd. TSPL is a family land filled with family flat rides (let's call them what they are instead of trivializing them with the carnie ride misnomer).

I was fairly against the TSPL addition to Paris and HKDL... But then I went and actually enjoyed them for what they were. Although I don't particularly want it in SDL, I see the merits easily for DHS requiring a quick fix. There's a lot of opinions over something most people have never actually seen. I'll also be there complaining with everyone else if come 2018 this is all that happened to DHS.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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PhotoDave219 said:
You're going have to point me to those… I haven't seen them yet.
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These ones, there are a few more floating around.

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ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Nubs70 said:
Or a simple sprinkler system with 2 settings. A simple misting option to prewet areas of SDMT and mermaid. Who knows with some uplighting it could be a really neat effect. Second setting is full on deluge (or "******" mode) if incipient fire takes hold.
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A good idea but it still does not solve the case of a firework blowing into the crowd itself, But a reasonable first step, I like the idea of lighting the mist that would be a nice visual.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

Premium Member
BrianLo said:
Throwing out my strong support here. Bug's land is a "kiddie land" filled with attractions designed for the preschool crowd. TSPL is a family land filled with family flat rides (let's call them what they are instead of trivializing them with the carnie ride misnomer).

I was fairly against the TSPL addition to Paris and HKDL... But then I went and actually enjoyed them for what they were. Although I don't particularly want it in SDL, I see the merits easily for DHS requiring a quick fix. There's a lot of opinions over something most people have never actually seen. I'll also be there complaining with everyone else if come 2018 this is all that happened to DHS.
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I am right there with you. I have no problem with this as long as it's the first small step in a much larger project. If the rumored total project budget is correct and doesn't get slashed we have to be getting more, a lot more. It's too bad that the only highly rumored detail of this project is likely to be the least "exciting". Then again, maybe not a coincidence. Bad news always seems to get out much faster than good news. Maybe some people inside the company who are less than enthused with TSPL leaked it to see what fan reaction would be.
 

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