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BrerJon

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A double-double made animal-style is a burger with two mustard patties and two slices of cheese and the regular lettuce and tomato. They also add pickles to it (pickles don't come on any of the burgers at In-N-Out), as well as grilled onions and extra spread. Animal-style fries are fries with a piece of cheese, usually melted, spread, and grilled onions. I've never tried a double-double animal-style but I've ordered animal fries multiple times.

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Jeepers, I hope Mike has health insurance.
 

BrerJon

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How does that compare to 5 guys?

They pitch at different levels - Five Guys is much more premium ingredients, at a higher price point, whereas In-N-Out is a better, much more edible and appetising McDonalds, great tasting and good stuff, but Five Guys is a little better I think - but more expensive.

Both are awesome if you like burgers and heart attacks though.
 
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GoofGoof

Premium Member
They pitch at different levels - Five Guys is much more premium ingredients, at a higher price point, whereas In-N-Out is a better, much more edible and appetising McDonalds, great tasting and good stuff, but Five Guys is a little better I think - but more expensive.

Both are awesome if you like burgers and heart attacks though.
Good comparison. Five Guys really is a step above fast food. In-N-Out blows away any fast food place out there.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Yep, it's the same thing. It's one thing to say you don't THINK you like something or you currently don't like something yet, but you're waiting until it's completed (for example Trader Sam's). But to completely blow off something you've never tried, vow never to try it, and judge it... It just doesn't make sense. It's ignorant.

And then there are those of us who tried them and find while SGE has too much chili dog residue, MM- is truly the worst thing to happen to WDW in a LONG time,

This trip spent 3 hours first day at GR because while Premier Pass showed active and valid, Would not admit of course could not make FP+ reservations either, One of kids in party had MB "stacked" this was a new one to me so no FP for him either till we got that fixed. Did not do many rides this trip did the baby swap thing for others in party because I wanted to spend time with family not GR.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
They pitch at different levels - Five Guys is much more premium ingredients, at a higher price point, whereas In-N-Out is a better, much more edible and appetising McDonalds, great tasting and good stuff, but Five Guys is a little better I think - but more expensive.

Both are awesome if you like burgers and heart attacks though.

Depends on your HDL/LDL numbers, If you are taking statins STAY AWAY, If not enjoy in moderation. When in Silicon Valley most meals of mine are Indian heavy on rice, veggies and spices but there is always ONE trip to In-N-Out.

As to food choices good Indian food is hard to come by in the northeast and I do like good Indian food.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Anyone worried about fountain water should just get a cup of iced water from any quick service counter. No need to buy an expensive bottle when you can hydrate yourself any time you like for free.

Or simply buy a case of DiHydrogen Monoxide or Oxygen DiHydride (your choice) and carry some bottles in with you :) cheaper and no waiting in lines.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
Depends on your HDL/LDL numbers, If you are taking statins STAY AWAY, If not enjoy in moderation. When in Silicon Valley most meals of mine are Indian heavy on rice, veggies and spices but there is always ONE trip to In-N-Out.

As to food choices good Indian food is hard to come by in the northeast and I do like good Indian food.
Why would one need to stay away if they are on HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors?

Other than the fact that, in general, that patient population should be more mindful of following a healthy lifestyle there is no contraindication or drug-food interaction between "statins" and red meat.
 

bhg469

Well-Known Member
what do you mean?
The big hero 6 guy was on a trailer that made the ones at my county fair look like they belong in the macys parade. Santa was one of the 3 parade floats that they did show.. it wasn't a parade at all. I'm glad they showed the steam punk dragon... now that steam punk is off the radar.. that was a great move to build a fire breathing dragon around d a fad (that's just my pet peeve though). The buildup of Anna and elsa was horrendous and then the lame cgi that the audience was fake reacting to? Wow! What a mess.
 

wogwog

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The big hero 6 guy was on a trailer that made the ones at my county fair look like they belong in the macys parade. Santa was one of the 3 parade floats that they did show.. it wasn't a parade at all. I'm glad they showed the steam punk dragon... now that steam punk is off the radar.. that was a great move to build a fire breathing dragon around d a fad (that's just my pet peeve though). The buildup of Anna and elsa was horrendous and then the lame cgi that the audience was fake reacting to? Wow! What a mess.
Just FYI. Since you mentioned the audience, the audience on the little bit of parade they showed were not guests. They were all cast and families to insure behavior and reaction. Info is from a trusted insider. Cast had to sign up to participate, off the clock of course.
 

Nemo14

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I was being very specific. Taking care of yourself includes precluding injury and illness but we're all going to die in the end anyway. The point is to make sure your quality of life is always top notch. Physical and mental fitness can not be taken for granted. It takes a lot of hard work. Jack LaLanne was still performing his daily physical workouts up until the day of his death at the age of 96. I think we should all strive for better health if for no other reason than we won't become a burden to our families.

I read this post earlier this morning and at first was just going to to chalk it up to the words of a young and naive poster, but it's been bothering me all morning. Having lost my father, my sister-in-law, her mother, and some very dear friends to diseases and accidents way beyond their control, I take great offense at those remarks. Life happens, and there's often not a blessed thing we can do about it. Jack LaLanne was, by any standards, the exception to the rule. My mom is 94 and was healthy mentally and physically, well into her 80's til the ravages of Alzheimer's took over. Yes, we should take care of ourselves, but we also should not be so quick to judge those who have been dealt a poorer hand.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
Just FYI. Since you mentioned the audience, the audience on the little bit of parade they showed were not guests. They were all cast and families to insure behavior and reaction. Info is from a trusted insider. Cast had to sign up to participate, off the clock of course.
That's not a secret. It's been like that for as long as I can remember.

EDIT: We had opportunities on my CP 16 years ago similar to the Christmas parade. A few years back during the Christmas parade someone made a sign with a shout out to Vista Way (one of the main CP housing complexes).
 

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
And then there are those of us who tried them and find while SGE has too much chili dog residue, MM- is truly the worst thing to happen to WDW in a LONG time,

This trip spent 3 hours first day at GR because while Premier Pass showed active and valid, Would not admit of course could not make FP+ reservations either, One of kids in party had MB "stacked" this was a new one to me so no FP for him either till we got that fixed. Did not do many rides this trip did the baby swap thing for others in party because I wanted to spend time with family not GR.
I don't know if I'd call MyMagic+ the worst thing to happen at WDW in a long time. Opinions seem to be decidedly mixed. There are many who genuinely are happy with it. It seems like a natural for those who already enjoy planning their ADRs 180 days out.

The bigger question is whether MyMagic+ has been a financial success.

So far, the answer is ‘no’.

To appreciate MyMagic+’s tepid performance, it’s helpful to compare the current fiscal year’s results with baseline results from previous years. Let’s look at Parks & Resorts (P&R) domestic results since 2011:

Revenue Annual Growth
  • 2011-2013 average: 10.7%
  • 2014: 8.2%
Per Capita Guest Spending (PCGS) Annual Growth
  • 2011-2013 average: 7.7%
  • 2014: 7.0%
Per Room Guest Spending (PRGS) Annual Growth
  • 2011-2013 average: 6.0%
  • 2014: 4.9%
Rather than improve performance, growth has slowed in MyMagic+’s first year of use.

It’s doubtful that this slowing is a result of MyMagic+. Rather, it’s likely the result of other business decisions made in the years leading up to MyMagic+.

From 2011 to 2013, Disney aggressively increased prices at the theme parks, much faster than consumer income. As a result, theme park spending slowed in 2014 even as Disney unveiled MyMagic+, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train (SDMT), and Frozen-themed offerings. People simply could not afford to pay Disney’s higher prices, no matter what Disney offered.

Demand was there. Both WDW and Universal saw record crowds this summer while Orlando area hotels had a bumper year in a slowly improving economy. SDMT, Frozen, and Diagon Alley were popular draws.

However, MyMagic+ (which was intended to increase per person spending) was largely ineffective because WDW’s customer base could not keep pace with Disney’s price increases.

A lot of this is timing. If corporate Disney had deferred the 2011-2013 price increases to coincide with the launch of MyMagic+, MyMagic+ could have been declared a major success. Instead, Disney pretty much guaranteed MyMagic+’s sagging performance through its earlier decisions.

MyMagic+ wasn’t a bad idea; however, it was poorly executed. MyMagic+ was an incredibly complex project, well outside of Disney’s comfort zone, and Disney leadership had a difficult time managing it. Its costs grossly overran budget, while the system continues to experience numerous technical glitches.

Disney executives jumped on the MyMagic+ bandwagon in part because they lacked the background necessary to fully understand its many intricate parts.

MyMagic+ appealed to Disney executives because of how its costs were structured. Unlike traditional brick-and-mortar attractions, MyMagic+’s costs were buried in other P&R expenses; over $1 billion in operating expense (opex) plus another $500 million in selling, general & administrative expense (SG&A). A relatively modest $400 million was spent as capital expenditures (capex). This appealed to executives responsible for green-lighting MyMagic+ since their compensation packages were (and still are) designed to discourage capex investments.

MyMagic+ should have been used to draw Guests onsite. Magic Bands should have remained an exclusive onsite-only perk while numbers from the one quarter when MyMagic+ was an onsite only benefit suggest that it significantly increased hotel occupancy.

Under the right circumstances, MyMagic+ could have been a rousing success. However, between the 2011-2013 price increases, the inability to control costs or manage its complexities, and the decision to minimize onsite vs. offsite benefits, MyMagic+ has proven to be an expense gimmick with disappointing financial returns.
 
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wogwog

Well-Known Member
That's not a secret. It's been like that for as long as I can remember.

EDIT: We had opportunities on my CP 16 years ago similar to the Christmas parade. A few years back during the Christmas parade someone made a sign with a shout out to Vista Way (one of the main CP housing complexes).
Not true recently. I have been in Florida for only eight years and until last year or the year before the public could sign up to get in free if they agreed to stay on the parade route for the taping. First come first admitted. Many friends and neighbors did so. They were escorted in a separate entrance gate and ushered to spots on the route. But some would then leave when they found out the taping was a multiple hour process and enjoy the rest of the park for free. That is probably why it was stopped. 16 years ago you might be right, but not recently.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
That's not a secret. It's been like that for as long as I can remember.

EDIT: We had opportunities on my CP 16 years ago similar to the Christmas parade. A few years back during the Christmas parade someone made a sign with a shout out to Vista Way (one of the main CP housing complexes).
Yep. Not new.
 

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