The Sorcerer's Apprentice Season 5: ENDGAME - Hype Thread

FireMountain

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Pi on my Cake

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So, saw Dumbo today. Actually left without seeing all of it (I have AMC Stubs, so I didn't pay for the movie). Worst film I've seen in a while. Soulless husk of a film that doesn't stand on its own apart from the original nor does it feel like a modern take on the original. Too depressing and dark to be fun. Too goofy and dumb to be taken serious. It's baffling that this was made by the same person who made Big Fish which told an emotionally complex and dark story in such a whimsical and fun fashion. Easily my least favorite live action Disney adaptation I've seen.
 

TwilightZone

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So, saw Dumbo today. Actually left without seeing all of it (I have AMC Stubs, so I didn't pay for the movie). Worst film I've seen in a while. Soulless husk of a film that doesn't stand on its own apart from the original nor does it feel like a modern take on the original. Too depressing and dark to be fun. Too goofy and dumb to be taken serious. It's baffling that this was made by the same person who made Big Fish which told an emotionally complex and dark story in such a whimsical and fun fashion. Easily my least favorite live action Disney adaptation I've seen.
This is the first time I've seen a negative Pi review, so I know it's serious.
(well besides the little mermaid ride and some disney snes games)
 

Pi on my Cake

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This is the first time I've seen a negative Pi review, so I know it's serious.
(well besides the little mermaid ride and some disney snes games)
It could be partly because I went in expecting Big Fish and got this. Big Fish is easily my favorite Burton movie and one of my favorite movies (even has Danny Devito as a circus ringmaster just like Dumbo), and the trailers made me think this would be like that.

should be seeing Shazam later this week though, and from what I've heard that one is phenomenal!
 

Pi on my Cake

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This is the first time I've seen a negative Pi review, so I know it's serious.
(well besides the little mermaid ride and some disney snes games)
It could also get better as it goes. I saw about 50 minutes, so I thought I had a good handle on it. But after the "Baby Mine" scene had me feeling less emotions than the trailer for Angry birds 2 (and you don't have to try hard for "Baby Mine" to make me feel emotions, lost my father when I was young and Dumbo was one of his favorite Disney movies. I'm a sucker for that song), I decided to tap out.
 

D Hulk

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So, saw Dumbo today. Actually left without seeing all of it (I have AMC Stubs, so I didn't pay for the movie). Worst film I've seen in a while. Soulless husk of a film that doesn't stand on its own apart from the original nor does it feel like a modern take on the original. Too depressing and dark to be fun. Too goofy and dumb to be taken serious. It's baffling that this was made by the same person who made Big Fish which told an emotionally complex and dark story in such a whimsical and fun fashion. Easily my least favorite live action Disney adaptation I've seen.
It could be partly because I went in expecting Big Fish and got this. Big Fish is easily my favorite Burton movie and one of my favorite movies (even has Danny Devito as a circus ringmaster just like Dumbo), and the trailers made me think this would be like that.

should be seeing Shazam later this week though, and from what I've heard that one is phenomenal!
It could also get better as it goes. I saw about 50 minutes, so I thought I had a good handle on it. But after the "Baby Mine" scene had me feeling less emotions than the trailer for Angry birds 2 (and you don't have to try hard for "Baby Mine" to make me feel emotions, lost my father when I was young and Dumbo was one of his favorite Disney movies. I'm a sucker for that song), I decided to tap out.
You didn't miss anything, Pi my guy, Dumburton only gets worse as it goes on and they completely run out of material to ransack from the original. (I love Stubs!) The only value in the second half is the production design of a fictionalized Coney Island, which appeals solely to the theme park nerd within me (I'm a theme park nerd, guys). The characters, story and emotions all fall flat. (For what it's worth, my favorite Burton flick is Mars Attacks!)

Shazam is indeed a triumph! Among its many pluses, it features a devastating gut punch of a "Baby Mine" scene. Choked me up more than any theatrical experience since the parenting scenes in the Guardians of the Galaxy films.
 

Pi on my Cake

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which appeals solely to the theme park nerd within me (I'm a theme park nerd, guys).

Never would have guessed!!!

Glad to know I made the right choice leaving lol

Can't wait to see Shazaam. I should've just seen that today, but I was waiting for an imax showing that fit my schedule and I took too long at the grocery store for the 4 something
 

DisneyManOne

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So, saw Dumbo today. Actually left without seeing all of it (I have AMC Stubs, so I didn't pay for the movie). Worst film I've seen in a while. Soulless husk of a film that doesn't stand on its own apart from the original nor does it feel like a modern take on the original. Too depressing and dark to be fun. Too goofy and dumb to be taken serious. It's baffling that this was made by the same person who made Big Fish which told an emotionally complex and dark story in such a whimsical and fun fashion. Easily my least favorite live action Disney adaptation I've seen.

I haven't seen Dumbo yet. But, I still believe that it can't be any worse of an insult to the original than Maleficent or Beauty and the Beast. To me, those two are the worst of the live-action remakes thus far, because of how much they seem to spit on the original story. (And in the latter's case, try to appeal to the CinemaSins crowd by needlessly fixing plot holes, which only creates bigger plot holes.)
 

Pi on my Cake

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I haven't seen Dumbo yet. But, I still believe that it can't be any worse of an insult to the original than Maleficent or Beauty and the Beast. To me, those two are the worst of the live-action remakes thus far, because of how much they seem to spit on the original story. (And in the latter's case, try to appeal to the CinemaSins crowd by needlessly fixing plot holes, which only creates bigger plot holes.)
Personally, I thought Maleficent worked as a decent enough B-Movie if it was taken on its own and not compared to Sleeping Beauty. It has some value.
And Beauty and the beast was at least enjoyable because it had many of the things I like from the original and the new songs were good even if the movie was poorly scripted with a bad visual design and little value beyond reminding me of the original. But it still has some value in a fan servicey way
Dumbo was too reliant on the original for the plot to work without being way too dumb if you don't know the plot alreayd so it can't to stand on its own, but it is too different from the original to work well as fan service because it really isn't a movie about Dumbo. I didn't get any value out of it.

Of course, opinions are subjective. I thought that Crimes of Grindlewald was an improvement over the first fantastic beasts movie and the Rogue One was boring. My opinions may be off lol
 

DisneyManOne

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Dumbo was too reliant on the original for the plot to work without being way too dumb if you don't know the plot alreayd so it can't to stand on its own, but it is too different from the original to work well as fan service because it really isn't a movie about Dumbo.

Then again, "Dumbo can fly" is pretty much the "Rosebud was his sled" of the Disney animated canon. Even if someone hasn't seen the movie, they already know the ending. It doesn't help matters that Disney always showcases that fact when they advertise the movie. I appreciate the fact that they're not making "Dumbo can fly" the resolution of the plot; and I'm really intrigued by the whole "people trying to take advantage of the miracle elephant" angle.
 

Evilgidgit

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Well, I'm not going to waste my time seeing the Dumbo remake. It is obviously a cheap, dull, lifeless, soulless cash grab, wasting Tim Burton's talents, hired kids who can't act, and stretched out the story's motions to make it hollow, as interesting as elephant dung, and pushing an "no circus animals" agenda upon a film SET IN THE 1910s!
 

TwilightZone

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Well, I'm not going to waste my time seeing the Dumbo remake. It is obviously a cheap, dull, lifeless, soulless cash grab, wasting Tim Burton's talents, hired kids who can't act, and stretched out the story's motions to make it hollow, as interesting as elephant dung, and pushing an "no circus animals" agenda upon a film SET IN THE 1910s!
I might, but I won't pay for it, because I'm evil like that.
 

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