The Sorcerer's Apprentice Season 4: Homecoming Edition - Discussion Thread

Suchomimus

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I'd change it to Peru and add Mystic Manor
I’m a little iffy on the part about Mystic Manor given that one; it’s set in Papua New Guinea and two; it could be used for Magic Kingdom or even a fifth gate as it isn’t culturally authentic to Papua New Guinea. If I were in your place, I’d make a dark ride that takes you on a safari through Peruvian wilderness with ride vehicles resembling the jeeps used for Dinosaur or Indiana Jones Adventure.
 

MA Screamin'

Well-Known Member
Greece. Even though I think it would never happen, a pavilion that is the Acropolis, or Mount Olympus, or both, would be beautiful.


A Hercules Stage Show. Hercules is my personal favourite Disney film and it has a great soundtrack. But it gets no love in the parks. I think it would be the perfect film, and show, for the World Showcase.

That's a great example of incorporating an IP that would compliment a Pavillion instead of detracting from it. Movies like Hercules, the Three Caballeros, and Mulan come to mind naturally.

With that, do you guys feel like Mary Poppins for the United Kingdom is a stretch? Of course, it occurs in and around England, but its story doesn't depict the United Kingdom in a vast manner than, per-say, Hercules does with Greece. Asking because it has been part of the EPCOT revamp discussion for a hot second.
 

Pi on my Cake

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
That's a great example of incorporating an IP that would compliment a Pavillion instead of detracting from it. Movies like Hercules, the Three Caballeros, and Mulan come to mind naturally.

With that, do you guys feel like Mary Poppins for the United Kingdom is a stretch? Of course, it occurs in and around England, but its story doesn't depict the United Kingdom in a vast manner than, per-say, Hercules does with Greece. Asking because it has been part of the EPCOT revamp discussion for a hot second.
I mean Hercules greatly misrepresents Greek mythology and culture. Right down to the name of the main character being the Roman form rather than the Greek form.

Don't get me wrong, I adore that movie and would love to see it in World Showcase with a Greek pavilion. But I don't know if I'd count Hercules as an example of great/accurate cultural representation. I also am a lot more open to IP in Epcot than most.

Mary Poppins at least is tied to real world British culture and the story is an important one in English pop culture. I think that fits better even if it doesn't represent the nation as a whole.

Mulan and Coco both 100 percent get my support though.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
I’m a little iffy on the part about Mystic Manor given that one; it’s set in Papua New Guinea and two; it could be used for Magic Kingdom or even a fifth gate as it isn’t culturally authentic to Papua New Guinea. If I were in your place, I’d make a dark ride that takes you on a safari through Peruvian wilderness with ride vehicles resembling the jeeps used for Dinosaur or Indiana Jones Adventure.
I don't think it is in Papua New Guinea -- unless I heard it wrong I remember @D Hindley mentioning it was in Peru...
 

spacemt354

Chili's
I mean Hercules greatly misrepresents Greek mythology and culture. Right down to the name of the main character being the Roman form rather than the Greek form.

Don't get me wrong, I adore that movie and would love to see it in World Showcase with a Greek pavilion. But I don't know if I'd count Hercules as an example of great/accurate cultural representation. I also am a lot more open to IP in Epcot than most.

Mary Poppins at least is tied to real world British culture and the story is an important one in English pop culture. I think that fits better even if it doesn't represent the nation as a whole.

Mulan and Coco both 100 percent get my support though.
If we're going around the world with the current lineup of pavilions I think the most authentic attraction option for each would be

Mexico - Coco
China - Mulan
Germany - Snow White or non-IP
Italy - Pinocchio
Japan - non-IP
Morocco - non-IP
France - Ratatouille
UK - Brave, though Mary Poppins is also good
Canada - non-IP
 

Voxel

President of Progress City
Hey, say I have kids around 2030... if I'd want to teach them a second language, what you would suggest?
It depends. I would say Spanish or Latin just because it has the most relevance. Latin because it really does help with English writing and grammar and Spanish because it’s the second most common language in the world.
Second.. I’m only 27 so one not great at parenting advice lol
 

spacemt354

Chili's
It depends. I would say Spanish or Latin just because it has the most relevance. Latin because it really does help with English writing and grammar and Spanish because it’s the second most common language in the world.
Second.. I’m only 27 so one not great at parenting advice lol
Kids?! I first need to get a hold of my own life before I ruin someone else's lol
 

Pi on my Cake

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
If we're going around the world with the current lineup of pavilions I think the most authentic attraction option for each would be

Mexico - Coco
China - Mulan
Germany - Snow White or non-IP
Italy - Pinocchio
Japan - non-IP
Morocco - non-IP
France - Ratatouille
UK - Brave, though Mary Poppins is also good
Canada - non-IP
Wolverine could work in Canada if they ever sort out the rights issues lol

AND the Weapon X program would tie into the science side of Epcot hahaha
 

tcool123

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@TheOriginalTiki your not the only one with plans to visit Walt Disney World soon ;)

In just two days I will be visiting the World, and spent President's Day Weekend, what is the plan? Well I'll tell you :D

Friday, 2/16 (We'll figure out where we eat somewhere)
Leave Miami at 2:30 PM
Arrive to Magic Kingdom 7:00 PM (Being very conservative here it's only a 3 and a half hour drive (legally) ;), but accounting for stops an such)
Happily Ever After 7:55 PM
Peter Pan Fastpass 7:35 PM - 8:35 PM
Thunder Mountain
Pirates of the Caribbean 8:45 PM - 9:45 PM
Splash Mountain (dependent on the temperature)
Meet Elena (need her to say happy birthday for a friend)
Buzz Lightyear
Space Mountain 9:50 PM - 10:50 PM
Peoplemover
Electric Water Pageant 10:35 PM
Check In to Hotel

Saturday, 2/17 (We'll figure out where we eat somewhere)
Wake up at 8 AM-ish
Be out, and at Epot by 9 AM-ish
Ride Soarin' Around the World
RELAUNCHED! Mission: Space FP 9:10 AM - 10:10 AM
Test Track FP 10:20 AM - 11:20 AM
Attempt to get a Star Tours FP for later in the night
Art Displays + Food + Three Caballeros till 5:15 PM
Disney on Broadway Concert at 5:30 PM
Leave to Hollywood Studios by 6:30 PM-ish
Star Tours
Star Wars: A Galactic Spectacular 8:15 PM
Toy Story? (Not sure if it remains open during & after the fireworks)
Back to the hotel

Sunday, 2/18
Wake up at 7 AM-ish
Be up and out by 7:30 AM-ish
Drop off my brother at the airport
Be at Animal Kingdom by 9:30 AM-ish
See the animals of the Oasis & Discovery Island
Dinosaur
Expedition Everest FP 10:40 AM - 11:40 AM
Eat lunch at Flame Tree Barbecue
it's tough to be a bug
Animals - Rafiki & Africa
Flight of Passage FP 4:05 PM - 5:05 PM
Discovery Island Carnivale Welcomes Jose & Panchito from The Three Caballeros! 5:00 PM (woooooo Caballeros!)
Dinner at Pizzafari
Festival of the Lion King 6:00 PM
Kilimanjaro Safari 6:40 PM - 7:40 PM
Pandora at Night + Pongu Pongu's Night Blossom & Raptor Claw
Either River Journey or Flight of Passage whichever has the shorter wait

Monday, 2/19
Wake up at 8:00 AM
Crystal Palace Breakfast 9:30 AM
Jungle Cruise FP 11:00 AM to Noon
Haunted Mansion FP Noon to 1:00 PM
Winnie the Pooh FP 1:20 PM - 2:20 PM
Leave by 4:00 PM - ish, and the rest of the Magic Kingdom day is whatever we feel like doing.
 

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