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[Phil12]

Gaaahhhh!!!!

Also, I respectfully disagree with your assertion that Brer Rabbit is amoral. He's a trickster primarily because he HAS to be in order to survive. But he's still one of the good guys.

You are obviously not familiar with the Uncle Remus stories. Brer Rabbit was a very disreputable animal. For your edification I have included a couple of links to a typical Brer Rabbit story as told by Uncle Remus. Since the Deep South Gullah dialect can be difficult to read, I have included both the original story and another version without the heavy dialect:
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/Harris2/ch17.html
http://www.mythfolklore.net/3043mythfolklore/reading/remus/pages/06.htm

As you can see, Brer Rabbit often engaged in sinful and illegal behavior even when he was not provoked to do so. He engaged in these activities because he was not a nice animal. In this story Brer Rabbit's bad behavior ended up costing the life of another innocent animal. Therefore, by no stretch of the imagination can Brer Rabbit be considered a "good guy".

 

[Cesar R M]

Marvel Baymax:

Disney Baymax:

Honestly, you're only proving his point. The story was inspired by a Marvel comic, but the animated Big Hero 6 is unmistakably Disney. This is exactly what @Magenta Panther is referring to.

why people keep using that image to prove their points?
that is one of his "disguises" or power modes..

THIS is the core baymax look.

but he usually looks like a burley body guard as disguise most of the time.


The guy with the sword.. that was Wasabi.

As for Fred. His power is more "spiritual" than a surfer dude with a suit(from the Disney version).
aka he had very similar power to that Tye Longshadow from Young Justice.

 

[216bruce]

Howzabout Howard the Duck turning out to be a member of Donald's extended family? He, the nephews and Unca Scrooge go out and hit some clubs, teach the kids how to smoke stogies, pick up a few hairless apes...hilarity ensues. Not only really ironic (considering the whole "change Howard" thing from back in the day) but likely something for a more adult audience. Duckburg would never be the same! Wauugh!

 

[RSoxNo1]

why people keep using that image to prove their points?
that is one of his "disguises" or power modes..

THIS is the core baymax look.
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but he usually looks like a burley body guard as disguise most of the time.


The guy with the sword.. that was Wasabi.

As for Fred. His power is more "spiritual" than a surfer dude with a suit(from the Disney version).
aka he had very similar power to that Tye Longshadow from Young Justice.

I don't think the women in the Disney movie were as well endowed...

 

[Cesar R M]

I don't think the women in the Disney movie were as well endowed...

because they were also reduced in age imho.

Wasabi in the comics is like.. in his 30's...
He was turned into a university student. (id say he's in his low 18-20's in the Disney's version)
Lemon and gogo seems in your 17's 18's. Hiro clearly is in his 14's or near that..

plus in comics, they always exaggerate the "attributes".
Aka: if you have "muscles", you will either be superman muscle brute style, or bruce lee like muscular.

plus Disney is Disney..
they remove anything remotely "sexist"

 

[lebeau]

So is every thread just Marvel and Star Wars now? Or just the ones I'm looking at.

 

[Brer Panther]

Brer Rabbit, for what it's worth, does seem to be painted as the "good guy" on Splash Mountain. He WAS a jerk of enormous proportions in the original stories, and even in the Disney movie comes across as kind of a jerk at times. That "Adventures of Brer Rabbit" movie (which, by the way, isn't very good, although it does get slightly better in the third act) uses this as a plot point: everyone gets sick of his being a jerk and he ends up alienating everybody.

On a side note, Disney for some reason villainized Brer Bear. In the original stories that I read, he didn't team up with Brer Fox to kill Brer Rabbit. He did go after him after he pinned the blame on him for stealing Brer Fox's "goober peas", but that's it.

 

[Magenta Panther]

You are obviously not familiar with the Uncle Remus stories. Brer Rabbit was a very disreputable animal. For your edification I have included a couple of links to a typical Brer Rabbit story as told by Uncle Remus. Since the Deep South Gullah dialect can be difficult to read, I have included both the original story and another version without the heavy dialect:
http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper/Harris2/ch17.html
http://www.mythfolklore.net/3043mythfolklore/reading/remus/pages/06.htm

As you can see, Brer Rabbit often engaged in sinful and illegal behavior even when he was not provoked to do so. He engaged in these activities because he was not a nice animal. In this story Brer Rabbit's bad behavior ended up costing the life of another innocent animal. Therefore, by no stretch of the imagination can Brer Rabbit be considered a "good guy".

I actually did read a few Remus stories in school. But only a few. Perhaps the edition I read had been "abridged" (code word for bad stuff taken out lest it scar the kiddies). Even so, I do remember one story where Brer Rabbit actually killed Brer Fox. And I think there was one where Brer Rabbit was flirting with Brer Fox's sister and her friends. That kind of thing sticks with you. But given your examples, you're right, the Rabbit was a bit of a scoundrel, as was the original Pinocchio. It took Uncle Walt to make heroes of them both.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I actually did read a few Remus stories in school. But only a few. Perhaps the edition I read had been "abridged" (code word for bad stuff taken out lest it scar the kiddies). Even so, I do remember one story where Brer Rabbit actually killed Brer Fox. And I think there was one where Brer Rabbit was flirting with Brer Fox's sister and her friends. That kind of thing sticks with you. But given your examples, you're right, the Rabbit was a bit of a scoundrel, as was the original Pinocchio. It took Uncle Walt to make heroes of them both.

In the movie, Brer Rabbit was used as an example to teach a young boy the mistake of running away from home. In order to do that Brer Rabbit was constantly making bad decisions and was a brat of high distinction. He was, however, clever and it didn't take to long to figure out that he should have been happy at home and things out there in the world were scary and dangerous. At the end of that particular little lesson, he returned home, grateful to be there and vowing to never leave again.

 

[Siren]

Taking down the BAH was a big mistake imo. I just had to see it with my own eyes, and what I saw confirmed my suspicions of how bad this would look. You can barely see anything, just poor show all around.

The Chinese Theater while gorgeous is not an icon, the picture above demonstrates this. Something else needs to go right in the middle to make a statement like Cinderella's Castle or the Tree of Life or *Spaceship Earth*.

Also, I just have to give a shout out to the DHS DJ the night I was there, he mixed 'Turn Down For What 'with the 'Star Wars Theme' song, and everybody around me went nuts and started twerking on their hands and on the ground. LOL. But seriously, it sounded so good -- if Disney put that mix on iTunes it would make so much money.

 

[Nmoody1]

Taking down the BAH was a big mistake imo. I just had to see it with my own eyes, and what I saw confirmed my suspicions of how bad this would look. You can barely see anything, just poor show all around.

The Chinese Theater while gorgeous is not an icon, the picture above demonstrates this. Something else needs to go right in the middle to make a statement like the castle or the tree or the golf ball.

Also, I just have to give a shout out to the DHS DJ the night I was there, he mixed 'Turn Down For What 'with the 'Star Wars Theme' song, and everybody around me went nuts and started twerking on their hands and on the ground. LOL. But seriously, it sounded so good -- if Disney put that mix on iTunes it would make so much money.

Any opinion you had became mute when you called Spaceship Earth a golf ball.

 

[G00fyDad]

Taking down the BAH was a big mistake imo. I just had to see it with my own eyes, and what I saw confirmed my suspicions of how bad this would look. You can barely see anything, just poor show all around.

The Chinese Theater while gorgeous is not an icon, the picture above demonstrates this. Something else needs to go right in the middle to make a statement like the castle or the tree or the golf ball.

Also, I just have to give a shout out to the DHS DJ the night I was there, he mixed 'Turn Down For What 'with the 'Star Wars Theme' song, and everybody around me went nuts and started twerking on their hands and on the ground. LOL. But seriously, it sounded so good -- if Disney put that mix on iTunes it would make so much money.

While I do respect your opinion i have to say that I disagree. Taken correctly, photos of the theater at night while looking down that street are amazing, You would see that if they would get that monstrosity of a stage out of the way. And the theater has been used (intermittently) as a park icon for quite some time now. While the stage is up the theater is not as lit up/visible as it should be.

Oh, and SSE is not a golf ball.

 

[RAXIP]

Taking down the BAH was a big mistake imo. I just had to see it with my own eyes, and what I saw confirmed my suspicions of how bad this would look. You can barely see anything, just poor show all around.

The Chinese Theater while gorgeous is not an icon, the picture above demonstrates this. Something else needs to go right in the middle to make a statement like Cinderella's Castle or the Tree of Life or *Spaceship Earth*.

The reason you can't see the Chinese Theater in this photo is because it was taken before the Sorcerer Hat was demolished. The Hat then was "Photoshopped" out of the picture.

 

[Matt_Black]

The reason you can't see the Chinese Theater in this photo is because it was taken before the Sorcerer Hat was demolished. The Hat then was "Photoshopped" out of the picture.

You can Photoshop the Hat out of the picture, but you can't Photoshop it out of our hearts!

 

[Siren]

Any opinion you had became mute when you called Spaceship Earth a golf ball.

Fine, I changed it to Spaceship Earth. I don't want my opinion to be 'muted' because of something trivial like that. Disney really needs a proper icon for DHS, imo.

While I do respect your opinion i have to say that I disagree. Taken correctly, photos of the theater at night while looking down that street are amazing, You would see that if they would get that monstrosity of a stage out of the way. And the theater has been used (intermittently) as a park icon for quite some time now. While the stage is up the theater is not as lit up/visible as it should be.

Oh, and SSE is not a golf ball.

Thank you and I respect your opinion as well -- it's too bad that we can't agree here. For me, the stage is an improvement. The vast array of discolored and unsightly stained concrete in front of the theater does not show well at all, so the stage helps to conceal all of this, imo.

Pictures of the park icon shouldn't have to be taken "correctly." I should be able to take amazing shots from a considerable distance with my cell phone. This is no problem with Cinderella's Castle, the Tree of Life and Spaceship Earth. In order to get decent shots of the theater you have to be up close and bend down to the ground to make the structure look tall. The Chinese Theater is lovely but it is not Disney, and it is not on the same scale as the other park icons, imo.

 

[unkadug]

Fine, I changed it to Spaceship Earth. I don't want my opinion to be 'muted' because of something trivial like that. Disney really needs a proper icon for DHS, imo.

Thank you and I respect your opinion as well -- it's too bad that we can't agree here. For me, the stage is an improvement. The vast array of discolored and unsightly stained concrete in front of the theater does not show well at all, so the stage helps to conceal all of this, imo.

Pictures of the park icon shouldn't have to be taken "correctly." I should be able to take amazing shots from a considerable distance with my cell phone. This is no problem with Cinderella's Castle, the Tree of Life and Spaceship Earth. In order to get decent shots of the theater you have to be up close and bend down to the ground to make the structure look tall. The Chinese Theater is lovely but it is not Disney, and it is not on the same scale as the other park icons, imo.

In order to take amazing shots, you would need a camera...not a cell phone.

 

[Mike S]

The Chinese Theater looks great walking down Hollywood Blvd. which I think is the same length as Main Street, right? Now also consider the Theater is about the same height as Sleeping Beauty Castle in Disneyland. Does Disneyland need a better icon, @Siren? Didn't think so. Either way this doesn't matter because according to Disney Tower of Terror is the icon.

PS: The new stage doesn't really bother me. It doesn't really get in the way of anything, unlike the old one

 

[bhg469]

What the actual... Oh... Nevermind. Trolls gonna troll.

 

[Mike S]

What the actual... Oh... Nevermind. Trolls gonna troll.

Wrong mythology. She's clearly a modern take on the Greek sirens of old. Luring wayward posters to their doom.

 

[NormC]

The theater is beautiful and was recently cleaned and painted. Anyone can use a bad photo to make their case but it would be disingenuous.