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WeLComeHomE OKW

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2 things I'd bet good money on:

RSR will come to DHS. It's a no-lose situation. It's a HUGE hit at DCA and cloning it will allow them to re-look at the budget for the DCA version and cut some corners. They know it will be popular, and cheaper than they did it the first time. It also happens to fit that area thematically.

Great Movie Ride WILL be updated. I don't know how, I don't know what will change, I don't know when. But, i'd bet, before the end of this massive re-do, that ride will be updated. There is no way they are willing to get rid of the hat and then have an attraction from 1989. A ride that's littered with 80's movies and movies like Tarzan that have lost relevance and a ride system that breaks down every other day. A ride that is inconsistent because of the cast members that star in the attraction (and Disney's done a lot to take away that inconsistency of cast members 'acting' over the last 10 years) just so they can feature such a ride as the main weenie of the park as you enter.

If one thing is clear, modern Disney takes detailed and immersive theming more seriously then ever (When they care about something). If DHS is their next big project with 1.5 billion dollars dedicated to it over 4-5 years, you better bet their main weenie will see improvements.

I also happen to think Disney's Hollywood Adventure is a great name and is a perfect representation of a Park that will feature a giant Star Wars Land, Toy Story Mania, Rockin' Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, and Fantasmic. Add in Radiator Springs Racers and that word adventure is a great representation (Better than island's of adventure imo)
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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im betting no RSR...too expensive...1.5 Billion is a lot but when you consider star wars, expanded Pixar Place, and maybe a great movie ride update that takes your budget
I mean DAK is getting 800 million with Avatar, ROL, and the new night time show
If I'm not mistaken, Carsland cost 500 million and RSR took about 300 million of that. Totally doable in a 1.5 billion budget (especially when RSR would be one of the main new additions beyond Star Wars land)
 

JWG

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RSR doesn't work in the FL climate as is, at least not during peak summer travel season. Rain will shut it down every day. Yes, maybe only for 20 minutes at a time, but it still messes with FPs, stand by line, etc.
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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RSR doesn't work in the FL climate as is, at least not during peak summer travel season. Rain will shut it down every day. Yes, maybe only for 20 minutes at a time, but it still messes with FPs, stand by line, etc.
You would have said the same about Pirates of the Caribbean and It's a small world...then they put those two attractions only in doors on the east coast...

Don't under estimate disney's ability to modify a popular attraction to fit a new climate. They're smart people.
 

G00fyDad

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RSR doesn't work in the FL climate as is, at least not during peak summer travel season. Rain will shut it down every day. Yes, maybe only for 20 minutes at a time, but it still messes with FPs, stand by line, etc.

Exactly what I said, but people don't get it. Putting it inside would ruin the effect.
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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I would also think that RSR would be redundant with Test Track just a boat ride away

Tell that to Triceratops Spin and Magic Carpets of Aladdin. Or, you know, the entire WDWMAGIC boards that want the Indiana Jones ride from Disneyland when it's the same exact track as Dinosaur. (Different rides are different, and a ride system is just a ride system, not a ride)
 

JWG

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You would have said the same about Pirates of the Caribbean and It's a small world...then they put those two attractions only in doors on the east coast...

Don't under estimate disney's ability to modify a popular attraction to fit a new climate. They're smart people.

It's why I said, "as is". But an all indoor version just feels lacking. But, a nighttime scene may work ok.
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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im betting no RSR...too expensive...1.5 Billion is a lot but when you consider star wars, expanded Pixar Place, and maybe a great movie ride update that takes your budget
I mean DAK is getting 800 million with Avatar, ROL, and the new night time show
From the research I did, Avatar land looks to have a 500 million dollar budget (And Rivers of Light is their new night time show). I highly doubt Rivers of Light has a 300 million dollar budget.

Where did you read that?

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EDIT: Might I add that Avatarland is a huge area that will encompass multiple attractions and entertainment options, let alone the highest tech stuff Disney has ever done (paraphrasing what James Cameron said) That whole project is costing 500 million (Again, on the google search I just did). This would just be replicating one ride out of a land that cost the same amount. Still totally feasible.
 

twebber55

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From the research I did, Avatar land looks to have a 500 million dollar budget (And Rivers of Light is their new night time show). I highly doubt Rivers of Light has a 300 million dollar budget.

Where did you read that?

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EDIT: Might I add that Avatarland is a huge area that will encompass multiple attractions and entertainment options, let alone the highest tech stuff Disney has ever done (paraphrasing what James Cameron said) That whole project is costing 500 million (Again, on the google search I just did). This would just be replicating one ride out of a land that cost the same amount. Still totally feasible.
several places, one being the sentinel...avatar 500 million ROL, nighttime safari, moving FOTLK, and infrastructure the rest, maybe new area in Harambe included as well
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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several places, one being the sentinel...avatar 500 million ROL, nighttime safari, moving FOTLK, and infrastructure the rest, maybe new area in Harambe included as well

Well, that just proves my point even more. The whole point of your post was that 800 million dollars was being dedicated to just 2 things, which made adding ONE big thing to DHS (on top of star wars land and other pixar land enhancements) unlikely with a 1.5 billion dollar budget.

800 million dollars covers a lot of stuff there. Just like 1.5 billion would be enough to include RSR as an attraction inside an expanded Pixarland.
 
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mahnamahna101

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2 things I'd bet good money on:

RSR will come to DHS. It's a no-lose situation. It's a HUGE hit at DCA and cloning it will allow them to re-look at the budget for the DCA version and cut some corners. They know it will be popular, and cheaper than they did it the first time. It also happens to fit that area thematically.

Great Movie Ride WILL be updated. I don't know how, I don't know what will change, I don't know when. But, i'd bet, before the end of this massive re-do, that ride will be updated. There is no way they are willing to get rid of the hat and then have an attraction from 1989. A ride that's littered with 80's movies and movies like Tarzan that have lost relevance and a ride system that breaks down every other day. A ride that is inconsistent because of the cast members that star in the attraction (and Disney's done a lot to take away that inconsistency of cast members 'acting' over the last 10 years) just so they can feature such a ride as the main weenie of the park as you enter.

If one thing is clear, modern Disney takes detailed and immersive theming more seriously then ever (When they care about something). If DHS is their next big project with 1.5 billion dollars dedicated to it over 4-5 years, you better bet their main weenie will see improvements.

I also happen to think Disney's Hollywood Adventure is a great name and is a perfect representation of a Park that will feature a giant Star Wars Land, Toy Story Mania, Rockin' Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, and Fantasmic. Add in Radiator Springs Racers and that word adventure is a great representation (Better than island's of adventure imo)

That better include Indiana Jones Adventure, Monsters Inc Door Coaster, Incredibles E-ticket, Muppets mini-land (including a dark ride), a bug's land, Animation Courtyard revamp and a Sunset Blvd family dark ride or you're dead wrong...

With Kong, revamped LC & TL, JP expansion and a Seuss E-ticket... Islands of Adventure is the best theme park in Central FL. DHS is 10-15 attractions away from equaling IOA
 

misterID

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im betting no RSR...too expensive...1.5 Billion is a lot but when you consider star wars, expanded Pixar Place, and maybe a great movie ride update that takes your budget
I mean DAK is getting 800 million with Avatar, ROL, and the new night time show
RSR makes sense, especially if it's the scaled down version that's been mentioned. I'd say you couldn't compare the cost of the two projects if that's the case. Something big is going back there. And from what's been said its most likely going to be Cars and Monsters related.

I'm still not convinced SWL is going to be the mega expansion people want to think it's going to be.

RSR doesn't work in the FL climate as is, at least not during peak summer travel season. Rain will shut it down every day. Yes, maybe only for 20 minutes at a time, but it still messes with FPs, stand by line, etc.
Meh, no different than TT really. Any outdoor element is going to have that risk in FL.

I would also think that RSR would be redundant with Test Track just a boat ride away
Not only would I take RSR, I would also take Journey To the Center Of The Earth at Animal Kingdom too. That's 3 rides with the same tech. And I would take INDY even with Dinosaur at AK. But that's just me.
 

GoofGoof

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Well, that just proves my point even more. The whole point of your post was that 800 million dollars was being dedicated to just 2 things, which made adding ONE big thing to DHS (on top of star wars land and other pixar land enhancements) unlikely with a 1.5 million dollar budget.

800 million dollars covers a lot of stuff there. Just like 1.5 billion would be enough to include RSR as an attraction inside an expanded Pixarland.
The $800M was from an Orlando Sentinel article about a year or so ago and covered the whole project. If the budget is really that high then Avatar has to be more than $500M or there is some other attraction they haven't disclosed yet. No way the light show and nighttime safari could cost $300M. I could see maybe half that, then again it is WDI so I guess anything is possible.

I think they could afford to clone RSR as is at DHS in a $1.5B budget, but it would be my preference to see at least half the budget go to Star Wars. If Avatar gets at least $500M I would like to see Star Wars come in around $750M. If they spend another $250M on general park clean up, theming, show updates and infrastructure (parking, hat removal, etc...). That leaves a healthy $500M for Pixar expansion. Using Avatar or Carsland as an example that gets you 1 major Eticket and 1 or 2 smaller rides. If they "downgrade" RSR to an indoor dark ride and skip the expensive rock work it should leave enough left over for another dark ride (Monsters or some other Pixar property).
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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That better include Indiana Jones Adventure, Monsters Inc Door Coaster, Incredibles E-ticket, Muppets mini-land (including a dark ride), a bug's land, Animation Courtyard revamp and a Sunset Blvd family dark ride or you're dead wrong...

With Kong, revamped LC & TL, JP expansion and a Seuss E-ticket... Islands of Adventure is the best theme park in Central FL. DHS is 10-15 attractions away from equaling IOA

These are all rumors other than Kong. And, even with that, any argument that uses "Seuss E-ticket" as an answer to why something is the best...well, I'll just leave it at that.

With a major Star Wars area and a Pixar area (of course, rumors like the Universal ones you posted), I think Disney is right up there, if not surpassing it. Rockin' Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror still crushes Hulk and Jurassic Park today, but, hey, to each his own.
 

novawildcat18

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That better include Indiana Jones Adventure, Monsters Inc Door Coaster, Incredibles E-ticket, Muppets mini-land (including a dark ride), a bug's land, Animation Courtyard revamp and a Sunset Blvd family dark ride or you're dead wrong...

With Kong, revamped LC & TL, JP expansion and a Seuss E-ticket... Islands of Adventure is the best theme park in Central FL. DHS is 10-15 attractions away from equaling IOA
I think that Indiana Jones and Muppets are only a pipe-dream at this point. Indiana Jones could have came here years ago, instead we got Dinosaur. Looking at the financials of the most recent Muppets movie, I don't think that Disney would be likely to spend millions on a new Muppets ride. The demand for the Muppets unfortunately isn't there, as they most likely hoped it would be.
 

misterID

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The $800M was from an Orlando Sentinel article about a year or so ago and covered the whole project. If the budget is really that high then Avatar has to be more than $500M or there is some other attraction they haven't disclosed yet. No way the light show and nighttime safari could cost $300M. I could see maybe half that, then again it is WDI so I guess anything is possible.

I think they could afford to clone RSR as is at DHS in a $1.5B budget, but it would be my preference to see at least half the budget go to Star Wars. If Avatar gets at least $500M I would like to see Star Wars come in around $750M. If they spend another $250M on general park clean up, theming, show updates and infrastructure (parking, hat removal, etc...). That leaves a healthy $500M for Pixar expansion. Using Avatar or Carsland as an example that gets you 1 major Eticket and 1 or 2 smaller rides. If they "downgrade" RSR to an indoor dark ride and skip the expensive rock work it should leave enough left over for another dark ride (Monsters or some other Pixar property).
At one time a Launch Coaster was proposed for AVATARland and I believe it was cut. I think it was basically a re-themed TRONcoaster that's going to Shanghai.
 

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