The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[The Aracuan Bird]

Does anyone else prefer Looney Tunes over the Silly Symphony and Mickey shorts?

The older ones with Classic Daffy. I grew up on all three. Additionally, the older I get, the more I appreciate the Donald cartoons.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I’d pay full admission price just to see the original, unedited version of RDCT again.

Randomly thinking about that firework show at the moment. It’s been nearly 20 years since Disneyland’s 50th and I’m shook.

 

[SuddenStorm]

I’d pay full admission price just to see the original, unedited version of RDCT again.

Randomly thinking about that firework show at the moment. It’s been nearly 20 years since Disneyland’s 50th and I’m shook.

I'm the same, but with the original Fantasmic!. Or if Indiana Jones had every effect working with all of the dialogue variations back in place, I'd pay full admission.

It's interesting how much RDCT and F! have influenced more modern Disney fireworks shows or night time productions, yet none have come close to topping those two.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I'm the same, but with the original Fantasmic!. Or if Indiana Jones had every effect working with all of the dialogue variations back in place, I'd pay full admission.

It's interesting how much RDCT and F! have influenced more modern Disney fireworks shows or night time productions, yet none have come close to topping those two.

I wanted to love the current Fantasmic! show, but I don’t. I don’t hate it either, I think it’s fine. But it was certainly better before.

I agree. Nothing since then has come close. And it’s been years and years.

 

[CaptinEO]

It’s a bit of a stretch, but Oz had arguably the biggest presence in the Great Movie Ride, and a land at Universal Japan. The land had a carousel and stage show.

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Wow is this land still there?

 

[CaptinEO]

Dick Van was also a huge fan of Woody Wood but now he prefers MILF at the Magic Kingdom.

 

[CaptinEO]

No, it’s now a part of “Universal Wonderland.” It’s a land that includes Peanuts, Hello Kitty, and Sesame Street IP. I think the Oz area specifically is now Sesame Street.

That's such a shame, a Wizard of Oz land sounds great.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It’s been nearly 20 years since Disneyland’s 50th and I’m shook.

Thanks for making me feel old.

 

[Rich T]

Something I can’t figure out is why the DLP version of POTC decided to use the supposedly inferior DL version of the second show building. Apparently Mark Davis revised and improved the entire layout and staging of the Ship/Village sequence for MK. You can differentiate between the two styles just by their floorplans. Original is angular and shaped sort of like a piano, while the remix only has right corners.

Consequently, when Pirates was replicated at TDL, even though the ride starts off just like the DL original, the second showbuilding is a copy of the “superior” MK layout. Yet, for some reason imagineers replicated the DL version of the second showbuilding at DLP.

My best guess it was that west coast arrogance that we hear is popular among imagineers. The design team just went on autopilot and assumed everything about the DL Pirates is superior to the MK version.

It’s because the DL original is, to most, “Superior.” Marc Davis was a genius, but sometimes when an artist revisits a masterpiece and tries to improve it with streamlining and restaging, a lot of the original’s charm and atmosphere are lost. Sometimes quirkiness is better than right angles.
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Wait a sec— The Paris version is very different in many ways from the previous 3. Are you saying Paris used the DL show building for a completely different set of scenes?

 

[Rich T]

Thanks for making me feel old.

Excuse me. Wanna talk old? I rode Midget Autopia and the Flying Saucers.

 

[mickEblu]

Excuse me. Wanna talk old? I rode Midget Autopia and the Flying Saucers.

Wow. You re practically DL Royalty

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

Can someone explain the differences between DL and MK Pirates that Marc Davis liked?

 

[Sharon&Susan]

Can someone explain the differences between DL and MK Pirates that Marc Davis liked?

I know he hated how the upwards waterfall and everything else before getting back to the loading area made the DL ride end on an anti-climactic note.

 

[mickEblu]

I know he hated how the upwards waterfall and everything else before getting back to the loading area made the DL ride end on an anti-climactic note.

I’d have to disagree with him there.

What’s the climax at MK? The jail cell?

 

[Rich T]

Can someone explain the differences between DL and MK Pirates that Marc Davis liked?

The only point I’ve heard is that he never liked the chain lift at the end... and for some reason thought a speed ramp was... better???

 

[Sharon&Susan]

I’d have to disagree with him there.

What’s the climax at MK? The jail cell?

Originally the treasure room, before they removed most of the stuff in there and added Jack Sparrow.

 

[Sharon&Susan]

The only point I’ve heard is that he never liked thd chain lift at the end... and for some reason thought a speed ramp was... better???

I doubt he considered the speed ramp as part of the ride experience, ergo it's not really anticlimactic as you're not expecting another drop or show scene after that.

 

[Rich T]

Sometimes an artist makes an odd call and decides speedramps are better than waterfalls... or that Darth Vader needs to yell “Noooooo”...

 

[Rich T]

I doubt he considered the speed ramp as part of the ride experience, ergo it's not really anticlimactic as you're not expecting another drop or show scene after that.

I guess it’s impossible for a designer like Davis to experience a ride from a guest’s POV. The atmosphere, the sounds, the smooth transition back to the present... that trip up the waterfall is a perfect way to end POC.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

WDW POTC has the same exit as the DL HM, only without a doll. Absurd theme-killing escalators in period settings.