The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[TP2000]

Pre-Cocktail Hour Musing (Happy Friday!)...

When did Carnation stop using the "From Contented Cows" tagline? I remember it on the old Burns & Allen program, with a giant smiling cow bursting through the screen and Gracie's kitchen cabinets stocked full of Carnation condensed milk.

In the 1950's and 60's, commercial sponsorships of TV programs were less than subtle.

 

[TP2000]

More Pre-Cocktail Hour Musings (Happy Friday!)....

I wonder why they just plastered over the original Carnation Company signage back in the late 1990's? Was it cheaper to do it that way, or was someone in authority at WDI actively trying to save park history?

That was the depths of the Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harriss misery era, so it was probably just a way to save money on the remodel. But, I'd like to think someone did it on purpose to save the original marquee and signage...

 

[Disney Irish]

Carnation is the brand, and they've been owned by Nestle' since the 80's. Nestle' was buying up everything in the 70's and 80's, as was Kraft, the original Land Pavilion sponsor out at Epcot.

The Carnation sponsorship of Carnation Cafe lasted into the late 1990's, 15 years after Nestle' bought them.

Here's that same building in 1996, from the brilliant Werner Weiss. It just seems more homey and charming this way.

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Oh I'm aware but 2026 sponsorships are a WHOLE lot different than the 1980s or even 1990s.

Nestle would want their name front and center not just the brand.

 

[Disney Irish]

Pre-Cocktail Hour Musing (Happy Friday!)...

When did Carnation stop using the "From Contented Cows" tagline? I remember it on the old Burns & Allen program, with a giant smiling cow bursting through the screen and Gracie's kitchen cabinets stocked full of Carnation condensed milk.

In the 1950's and 60's, commercial sponsorships of TV programs were less than subtle.

Google says, 1984 when Nestle bought them they phased out the slogan.

So thank Nestle....

 

[Misted Compass]

More Pre-Cocktail Hour Musings (Happy Friday!)....

I wonder why they just plastered over the original Carnation Company signage back in the late 1990's? Was it cheaper to do it that way, or was someone in authority at WDI actively trying to save park history?

That was the depths of the Paul Pressler and Cynthia Harriss misery era, so it was probably just a way to save money on the remodel. But, I'd like to think someone did it on purpose to save the original marquee and signage...

There's a lot of signage in the park that's just been plastered over. A few years back there was that one directional sign in Tomorrowland that fell off and revealed the previous one from the 80s. You have the Mary Blair murals entombed behind the current ones too.

 

[TP2000]

Okay, it's 7! Happy Friday! It's now a beautiful spring weekend, and I'm headed down to a fave restaurant to kick off a sociable weekend with very old, old friends. Wherever this early spring weekend finds you, out West where spring has sprung early, or out East where winter looks to be hanging on mercilessly, I hope you enjoy it!

Please know, however, that as wild and crazy as I may still be at my age, AT LEAST I DO NOT BEHAVE LIKE THIS...

 

[Figments Friend]

This is great to see.
Who knew that original sign was still there until now…?
Just imagine what other hidden remnants of Disneyland’s past are hiding just under a surface…

-

 

[Disney Irish]

This is great to see.
Who knew that original sign was still there until now…?
Just imagine what other hidden remnants of Disneyland’s past are hiding just under a surface…

-

Yes, one wonders -

 

[Distorian]

I hope this happens.

California bill would create 'roadmap' to reintroduce grizzly bears

California legislators presented a new bill aimed at creating a "roadmap" to reintroduce the grizzly bear to the state's ecosystem.

www.usatoday.com

 

[MK-fan]

Look at all these shows back in 1994, oh how times have changed……

 

[NobodyElse]

Carnation is the brand, and they've been owned by Nestle' since the 80's. Nestle' was buying up everything in the 70's and 80's, as was Kraft, the original Land Pavilion sponsor out at Epcot.

The Carnation sponsorship of Carnation Cafe lasted into the late 1990's, 15 years after Nestle' bought them.

Here's that same building in 1996, from the brilliant Werner Weiss. It just seems more homey and charming this way.

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So, back in the olden-times, Walt and Co. took on many sponsors (and operators) out of financial necessity. Then at some point (Probably quite early on) there was a concerted effort to let those contracts lapse and move the ownership and operations of specific spots in-house.

I think Sunkist was the last company to exit.

 

[disneyC97]

Here's a better look at that area showing how open and visible the Motor Boat Cruise was until Light Magic. Or as good as a look as we can get from the blurry Kodachrome aerial photos of the 20th century. This shot is of the dock and ride entrance during the Nixon Era, over 5 years after the Small World Mall opened up the northern flanks of Fantasyland in '66.

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Compared to the area today, that is far more landscaped and sloped into the Light Magic terraces, plus the trees have had another 50 years of TLC by the Disneyland Horticulture team and natural growth.

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From the Small World Mall area, the view is obscured by the Light Magic terraces, plus the parade lighting towers the big trees, and all the various Churro carts and whatnot the walkways of Disneyland are now littered with.

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And then when you are walking around that area today right in front of the dock, the old dock entrance area has been obscured by new structures, like that gift shop/snack bar thing that never seems to be open.

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The Small World Mall was called that because it was, quite literally, just a giant, flat, wide-open mall that stretched from the Matterhorn to the Small World ride. Here it is in the late 1960's.

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Daveland Vintage and Current Disneyland Photo Index

Current and vintage disneyland photos at daveland featuring adventureland, fantasyland, main street, frontierland, tomorrowland, and other areas from the anaheim theme park

www.davelandweb.com

And the trees on the IASW roof…was a cool look.

 

[SuddenStorm]

This is great to see.
Who knew that original sign was still there until now…?
Just imagine what other hidden remnants of Disneyland’s past are hiding just under a surface…

-

Remember a few years ago when a sign fell off in Tomorrowland, revealing old signage? In the Space Mountain exit by the theater.

 

[MK-fan]

Remember a few years ago when a sign fell off in Tomorrowland, revealing old signage? In the Space Mountain exit by the theater.

I’m sure the Mary Blair Ceramic Murals are under the Lightyear spaceships mural.

 

[PiratesMansion]

I’m sure the Mary Blair Ceramic Murals are under the Lightyear spaceships mural.

It's been confirmed that the murals are still there on one side (and one side only, I believe?) under the current murals.

Not sure off the top of my head which side it is though-I had actually thought it was the Star Tours side.

 

[MK-fan]

It's been confirmed that the murals are still there on one side (and one side only, I believe?) under the current murals.

Not sure off the top of my head which side it is though-I had actually thought it was the Star Tours side.

According to this guy, I don’t think the Star Tours side has it anymore:

 

[PiratesMansion]

According to this guy, I don’t think the Star Tours side has it anymore:

Double checked Yesterland and sure enough, it's the Buzz side with the murals.

 

[TP2000]

And the trees on the IASW roof…was a cool look.

I think it was John Hench (or was it Rolly Crump?) who told the story of Walt coming to visit the WED work room in 1965 where the Disneyland facade for Small World was being worked on, led by Mary Blair, while the ride itself was still operating at the World's Fair. Some lesser Imagineer had put a tray of fake trees on the roof of the model for convenience as they were placing trees and landscaping around the model while Mary Blair fussed over the actual building, and Walt saw it and loved the look. He thought it provided a good sense of depth to have greenery on the roof framing the modern wall of world icons and architecture.

The Imagineers had to pretend they had planned it that way all along! Mature trees were placed in big planter boxes and put onto the south end of the roof for its 1966 opening at the park. "Glad you liked our tree idea, Walt!"

 

[AJFireman]

-So, back in the olden-times, Walt and Co. took on many sponsors (and operators) out of financial necessity. Then at some point (Probably quite early on) there was a concerted effort to let those contracts lapse and move the ownership and operations of specific spots in-house.

I think Sunkist was the last company to exit.

From what I gather Kodak was the last to end due to Bankruptcy in December 2012. Sunkist ended in 1989. A few others ended between those dates.

 

[Gusey]

From what I gather Kodak was the last to end due to Bankruptcy in December 2012. Sunkist ended in 1989. A few others ended between those dates.

Is Honda the only sponsor still at Disneyland, sponsoring Autopia?