The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[Disney Irish]

Then sadly you don’t know much about how the modern day Walt Disney Company operates. I truly wish they cared about their cast members as much as you seem to think they do.

The others haven’t found roles within the park. They were let go as I’ve said three times now but you chose to ignore to fit your own narrative.

And again we were talking about this specific CM and her specific incident which lead to her getting fired. You decided to change to conversation to focus on them for whatever reason. And if true I’m sorry that those others haven’t found other roles yet, but that still has nothing to do with this specific CM and her circumstances. She got fired for cause, period. What happened to the others in that role while sad doesn’t change any of that, nor does it preclude this CM from doing what she did that lead to her getting fired. Nor does it change my opinion about this specific CM and the circumstances that she put herself in. And one would hope that if they were good in their roles that they will find other roles down the line, either with Disney, or someone else. Unlike this CM who got fired for cause and likely isn’t going to work much in the industry (or Hollywood) again at least not in any meaningful way.

 

[wdrive]

And again we were talking about this specific CM and her specific incident which lead to her getting fired. You decided to change to conversation to focus on them for whatever reason. And if true I’m sorry that those others haven’t found other roles yet, but that still has nothing to do with this specific CM and her circumstances. She got fired for cause, period. What happened to the others in that role while sad doesn’t change any of that, nor does it preclude this CM from doing what she did that lead to her getting fired. Nor does it change my opinion about this specific CM and the circumstances that she put herself in. And one would hope that if they were good in their roles that they will find other roles down the line, either with Disney, or someone else. Unlike this CM who got fired for cause and likely isn’t going to work much in the industry (or Hollywood) again at least not in any meaningful way.

I’m aware of what we were talking about. But your point of that she could have just taken a different role at Disney was ridiculous. I used the example of the other performers not getting different roles as a point that shows this.

Thanks for your input Hollywood casting director.

 

[Disney Irish]

I’m aware of what we were talking about. But your point of that she could have just taken a different role at Disney was ridiculous. I used the example of the other performers not getting different roles as a point that shows this.

Thanks for your input Hollywood casting director.

So got it, you're making a straw man in order to derail the conversation. Because what happened to them still has NOTHING to do with what happened to this CM. Maybe she couldn't have easily or quickly gotten another role, but that was never the point. The point was had she kept quiet she'd still be eligible for other roles even if one wasn't readily available at that moment just like all others you keep wanting to bring up. So that is the difference between them and her making your argument moot.

But thanks for sharing all your insight Disneyland Live Entertainment VP.

 

[wdrive]

So got it, you're making a straw man in order to derail the conversation. Because what happened to them still has NOTHING to do with what happened to this CM. Maybe she couldn't have easily or quickly gotten another role, but that was never the point. The point was had she kept quiet she'd still be eligible for other roles even if one wasn't readily available at that moment just like all others you keep wanting to bring up. So that is the difference between them and her making your argument moot.

But thanks for sharing all your insight Disneyland Live Entertainment VP.

You couldn’t be more wrong.

It has everything to do with what happened with that particular CM and your claims she could have just taken another performing role at Disney. If you can’t grasp that then I’m wasting my time.

You don’t know anything about this or how it works and refuse to listen. If she kept quiet what roles could she have done? You tell me the Christmas parade or the Bluey show but you don’t seem to grasp it doesn’t work like that. I’m repeating myself here but she spoke out as she knew she was on her way out.

This isn’t the first time you’ve spouted how you think it works and then demand everyone believes it as fact. It’s okay to not know things.

 

[Disney Irish]

You couldn’t be more wrong.

It has everything to do with what happened with that particular CM and your claims she could have just taken another performing role at Disney. If you can’t grasp that I’m wasting my time.

You don’t know anything about this or how it works and refuse to listen. If she kept quiet what roles could she have done? You tell me the Christmas parade or the Bluey show but you don’t seem to grasp it doesn’t work like that. I’m repeating myself here but she spoke out as she knew she was on her way out.

This isn’t the first time you’ve spouted how you think it works and then demand everyone believes it as fact.

First I'm not demanding anyone to do anything, nor am I claiming anything as fact. I have an opinion, and yes maybe its misinformed because I don't know how "it works". Maybe another role wasn't readily available to her to transition to, but did that give her the right to break the rules and break role? Are you advocating that CMs should now break role when they don't get hours or Disney phases out their character? Otherwise the point you're making is moot, because none of the others did the same thing, if they did maybe you'd have a point. Yes its sad that the others also lost their role because Disney decided to transition this particular character to being seasonal. But is this the first time that has happened? No, its not, other characters have been phased out completely or made seasonal, have they not? You can argue that maybe not as popular as EQ, but I'd say that is subjective. Disney has the right to transition any character they see fit into either being in regular rotation or being seasonal, its all at their discretion. And I'm guessing since you seem to be so well informed on the subject know all this. And I'm also guessing its written into the actor contracts that the CMs sign that no role (outside maybe the Fab5) is permanent or guaranteed. That all employment is subject to many factors including whether a particular character role the CM is assigned to is available. And that this now former CM knew all that but still decided to break the rules for whatever reason anyways thinking that a viral moment would get Disney to change their minds, and it didn't.

 

[wdrive]

First I'm not demanding anyone to do anything, nor am I claiming anything as fact. I have an opinion, and yes maybe its misinformed because I don't know how "it works". Maybe another role wasn't readily available to her to transition to, but did that give her the right to break the rules and break role? Are you advocating that CMs should now break role when they don't get hours or Disney phases out their character? Otherwise the point you're making is moot, because none of the others did the same thing, if they did maybe you'd have a point. Yes its sad that the others also lost their role because Disney decided to transition this particular character to being seasonal. But is this the first time that has happened? No, its not, other characters have been phased out completely or made seasonal, have they not? You can argue that maybe not as popular as EQ, but I'd say that is subjective. Disney has the right to transition any character they see fit into either being in regular rotation or being seasonal, its all at their discretion. And I'm guessing since you seem to be so well informed on the subject know all this. And I'm also guessing its written into the actor contracts that the CMs sign that no role (outside maybe the Fab5) is permanent or guaranteed. That all employment is subject to many factors including whether a particular character role the CM is assigned to is available. And that this now former CM knew all that but still decided to break the rules for whatever reason anyways thinking that a viral moment would get Disney to change their minds, and it didn't.

Of course anyone is allowed an opinion on a discussion board, that’s a given. But when an opinion includes incorrect information it is fair game to call it out. You’ve posted a lot of incorrect information.

If a CM knows they’re on their way out, why can’t they call Disney out on it? She was a very talented performer clearly and Disney got rid because of the clout she was gaining online. Without getting rid of her directly they cut the character. I’d be annoyed too if I did such a good job I became widespread online then lost my job because of it. I can see why opinions may differ on that and an employee should keep their mouth shut. But I don’t think she particularly did anything wrong.

But anyway I’m not here to debate the whys and hows of what happened. I called you out originally because you stated if she just kept quiet she’d still be employed, which is entirely false. And then you stated she could have easily gone for other roles, which again is entirely false.

Have your opinion on what a good employee should and shouldn’t do, I’m not against you having ideas or thoughts on that.

 

[Disney Irish]

Of course anyone is allowed an opinion on a discussion board, that’s a given. But when an opinion includes incorrect information it is fair game to call it out. You’ve posted a lot of incorrect information.

If a CM knows they’re on their way out, why can’t they call Disney out on it? She was a very talented performer clearly and Disney got rid because of the clout she was gaining online. Without getting rid of her directly they cut the character. I’d be annoyed too if I did such a good job I became widespread online then lost my job because of it. I can see why opinions may differ on that and an employee should keep their mouth shut. But I don’t think she particularly did anything wrong.

But anyway I’m not here to debate the whys and hows of what happened. I called you out originally because you stated if she just kept quiet she’d still be employed, which is entirely false. And then you stated she could have easily gone for other roles, which again is entirely false.

Have your opinion on what a good employee should and shouldn’t do, I’m not against you having ideas or thoughts on that.

Except even you said she would still have been employed in the seasonal roles or did I mistake what you meant. Is not seasonal employment still not employment with Disneyland? No its not the same hours, but its still employment is it not? I mean I know its been decades since I worked in the theme park space, but seasonal employment was still considered employment or is that now not the definition in 2026? So had she kept her mouth shut wouldn't she still be employed even if in a seasonal role? So what did I say about that which was false? Yeah maybe not easily getting another role, but she'd still be employed, which was the point.

And calling out Disney outside of the role is one thing, that I think is fair game, many former CMs have done the same thing by posting videos talking about their time with the Mouse after employment. But to do it while in role breaks with not only the tradition of CMs but also ruins the integrity of the experience for other guests. So we should all being calling out this former CM for her actions as wrong.

Also I'm sorry but are you now claiming or rather insinuating that Disney got rid of the entire character and all CMs involved because of the clout that this one CM gained online? I know there have been online rumors of that being one of the reasons why she was let go, but not why the entire character was being removed. Heck she didn't even mention that in the interview, so that seems to indicate its not true because if it was why not talk about it, she talked about other things so why not that. Because if it was true then the other CMs could potentially have a wrongful termination case, it would be an HR nightmare.

 

[wdrive]

Except even you said she would still have been employed in the seasonal roles or did I mistake what you meant. Is not seasonal employment still not employment with Disneyland? No its not the same hours, but its still employment is it not? I mean I know its been decades since I worked in the theme park space, but seasonal employment was still considered employment or is that now not the definition in 2026?

And calling out Disney outside of the role is one thing, that I think is fair game, many former CMs have done the same thing by posting videos talking about their time with the Mouse after employment. But to do it while in role breaks with not only the tradition of CMs but also ruins the integrity of the experience for other guests. So we should all being calling out this former CM for her actions as wrong.

Also I'm sorry but are you now claiming that Disney got rid of the entire character and all CMs involved because of the clout that this one CM gained online? I know there have been online rumors of that being one of the reasons why she was let go, but not why the entire character was being removed. Heck she didn't even mention that in the interview, so that seems to indicate its not true because if it was why not talk about it, she talked about other things so why not that. Because if it was true then the other CMs could potentially have a wrongful termination case, it would be an HR nightmare.

Oh the temporary for Halloween part? Well when you’re going from 12 months of payslips a year to 6 weeks of payslips a year it becomes next to impossible to commit to those 6 weeks. Unless you’re a millionaire already.

I don’t find it wrong, especially the way she did it. But I can see why opinions may differ as I have already said.

I mean yes, why else would they cut that character? Of course they’d never admit that. But they still have Gaston going out daily. If you polled 10 random guests the Evil Queen would be way more recognisable.

I did hear there is a push for a wrongful termination case. I don’t know the details on that however. Things get murky however when most of the performers weren’t fired just are now given 0 hours.

 

[Disney Irish]

Oh the temporary for Halloween part? Well when you’re going from 12 months of payslips a year to 6 weeks of payslips a year it becomes next to impossible to commit to those 6 weeks. Unless you’re a millionaire already.

Right, so she'd still be employed had she kept her mouth shut like I mentioned. So really the only thing I got "wrong" which was really just an opinion anyways, is that she could get another role (I never said easily btw).

I mean yes, why else would they cut that character? Of course they’d never admit that. But they still have Gaston going out daily. If you polled 10 random guests the Evil Queen would be way more recognisable.

Right, so then you have an opinion not any fact as you tried to present. And that is fine to have that opinion, but just making it clear that that is not an actual fact, ie you could be misinformed about this and are just making an assumption based on your opinion.

 

[wdrive]

Right, so she'd still be employed had she kept her mouth shut like I mentioned. So really the only thing I got "wrong" which was really just an opinion anyways, is that she could get another role (I never said easily btw).


Right, so then you have an opinion not any fact as you tried to present. And that is fine to have that opinion, but just making it clear that that is not an actual fact, ie you could be misinformed about this and are just making an assumption based on your opinion.

Yeah sure ‘employed’. I’ve explained this over and over and quite frankly I’m bored of it now and your stubbornness. If she kept her mouth shut she’d still officially be employed yet never work there. If you see that as employed and working then so be it but I think you’re wrong.

To sum it all up. You know nothing of Disneyland performer employment contracts and situations.

Have fun speculating if you’d like to continue. I’ll be sure to pull you up on it when you’re wrong.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah sure ‘employed’. I’ve explained this over and over and quite frankly I’m bored of it now and your stubbornness. If she kept her mouth shut she’d still officially be employed yet never work there. If you see that as employed and working then so be it but I think you’re wrong.

Ever hear of keeping your foot in the door and not burning a bridge? If you call going out in an act of defiance being "right" then more power to you. But I learned long ago never to burn a bridge in business, because you never know who or what is going to be there in the future when you need a job.

To sum it all up. You know nothing of Disneyland performer employment contracts and situations.

Have fun speculating if you’d like to continue. I’ll be sure to pull you up on it when you’re wrong.

I called you out for the very same thing you called me out for, and now you're getting all incensed about it. Turnabout is fair play my friend.

Also once again I've already said many many many times I have no inside information, never claimed to have and never will claim to have. I have an opinion, and just saying what amounts to "trust me" is not enough for me to change my opinion on a topic.

 

[wdrive]

I have an opinion, and just saying what amounts to "trust me" is not enough for me to change my opinion on a topic.

Then anonymous forums are not the place for you my friend.

 

[Disney Irish]

Then anonymous forums are not the place for you my friend.

I think I'm just fine here my friend.

Also are you new here? Because almost everyone says the exact same thing here, no one here just believes someone that says "trust me I know what I'm talking about and you don't".

 

[wdrive]

I think I'm just fine here my friend.

Also are you new here? Because so many say the exact same thing here, no one here just believes someone that says "trust me I know what I'm talking about and you don't".

No I’ve been here since January 2014.

Anywho, if you’d like to continue our discussion my private messages are always open. I’ve had enough circling conversation with you clogging up this thread.

 

[Disney Irish]

No I’ve been here since January 2014.

Anywho, if you’d like to continue our discussion my private messages are always open. I’ve had enough circling conversation with you clogging up this thread.

And I've been here since October 2016. So again I think I'm just fine.

If you care to send a DM because you have something to say, be my guest. But this is a "Miscellaneous Thought" thread, so everything is open to discuss within forum rules, so there is literally no clogging up this thread.

 

[mickEblu]

After two pages of back n forth it ceases to be Miscellaneous

Yours Truly,

The Creator of this Thread & Unofficial Moderator

 

[wdrive]

And I've been here since October 2016. So again I think I'm just fine.

If you care to send a DM because you have something to say, be my guest. But this is a "Miscellaneous Thought" thread, so everything is open to discuss within forum rules, so there is literally no clogging up this thread.

I’ve said everything I needed to say multiple times. That you were wrong in saying she’d still be working there had she kept her mouth shut. And you were wrong in saying she could have changed roles.

If that infuriates you so be it.

 

[Disney Irish]

I’ve said everything I needed to say multiple times. That you were wrong in saying she’d still be working there had she kept her mouth shut. And you were wrong in saying she could have changed roles.

If that infuriates you so be it.

It doesn't infuriate me that you have a different opinion or call my opinion wrong, because that is all this is a difference of opinions.

 

[wdrive]

It doesn't infuriate me that you have a different opinion or call my opinion wrong, because that is all this is a difference of opinions.

If you say so my friend

 

[DLR92]

I’m sure the girl will have another door open for another opportunity. Just because one employer let you go, another one will take you.