The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Centauri Space Station

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But crying and moaning that MuppetVision is closing at DHS? That's not very flattering to that park. And the fans that are upset DHS will finally be without a MuppetVision show seem to be people who are simply starved for entertainment in a theme park with a very weak lineup of entertainment. :(
It’s more about major Muppet fans who want Jim Hensons final project to live on. DHS has Indiana Jones and Beauty and the beast still playing, but Fantasmic, Disney Jr, and soon The Little Mermaid were all updated, The Frozen Singalong is actually quite good and full of improv like the Genie in DCAs Aladdin, a new Villains show is coming there.
 

Mr. Sullivan

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I, for one, am rather pleased Moana 2 is receiving poor reviews.
I don't want Disney to take the wrong lessons from this film, so I will say I'm sort of glad it's not getting acclaimed. But that being said, the film and theatre guy in me does need to parse through this a little.

The reviews are not not poor, they're mixed. That seems like an argument of semantics but in the world of film criticism, there is a rather pronounced distinction there. That is not to hand wave and say that it isn't taking heat, because it is, but there is a large chasm between a film receiving a middle of the road set of reviews and a negative set of reviews.

There's a world of difference between Moana 2's 57 on Metacritic/66% on Rotten Tomatoes vs. something like Red One's 34 on Metacritic/31% on Rotten Tomatoes.

That said, the film is poised for a massive opening weekend and it's comps are currently on pace with Frozen 2. With an A- Cinemascore (the same score as Frozen 2 funnily enough), I at the moment don't see a reason to believe this won't come close to or even pass the $1 billion mark unless it suffers a massive massive collapse from it's $100 million+ domestic OW and $200 million+ worldwide opening weekend.

So, even with the muted critical response, I definitely think Disney's gonna see a massive box office from this and, of course, take all the wrong messages from it.
 

waltography

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I don't want Disney to take the wrong lessons from this film, so I will say I'm sort of glad it's not getting acclaimed. But that being said, the film and theatre guy in me does need to parse through this a little.

The reviews are not not poor, they're mixed. That seems like an argument of semantics but in the world of film criticism, there is a rather pronounced distinction there. That is not to hand wave and say that it isn't taking heat, because it is, but there is a large chasm between a film receiving a middle of the road set of reviews and a negative set of reviews.

There's a world of difference between Moana 2's 57 on Metacritic/66% on Rotten Tomatoes vs. something like Red One's 34 on Metacritic/31% on Rotten Tomatoes.

That said, the film is poised for a massive opening weekend and it's comps are currently on pace with Frozen 2. With an A- Cinemascore (the same score as Frozen 2 funnily enough), I at the moment don't see a reason to believe this won't come close to or even pass the $1 billion mark unless it suffers a massive massive collapse from it's $100 million+ domestic OW and $200 million+ worldwide opening weekend.

So, even with the muted critical response, I definitely think Disney's gonna see a massive box office from this and, of course, take all the wrong messages from it.
100% agree. What I've heard anecdotally is that the animation is just as good as the first and the third act is the best part of Moana 2 (and likely what they focused on most during retooling from the D+ series) but that the rest of it is painfully clear that it was initially a series story-wise.

I'm watching it tomorrow evening so of course I'll wait to judge. I'm more worried about the fact that a majority of the animation was done in Disney Vancouver and only finished in Burbank, so a lesson Disney may learn is "outsource the animation."
 

MoonRakerSCM

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Studios has plants growing on their Millennium Falcon... with getting more moisture here in the coming months, will we?

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waltography

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100% agree. What I've heard anecdotally is that the animation is just as good as the first and the third act is the best part of Moana 2 (and likely what they focused on most during retooling from the D+ series) but that the rest of it is painfully clear that it was initially a series story-wise.

I'm watching it tomorrow evening so of course I'll wait to judge. I'm more worried about the fact that a majority of the animation was done in Disney Vancouver and only finished in Burbank, so a lesson Disney may learn is "outsource the animation."
Just came back from Moana 2 and honestly came out enjoying it more than I thought I would given the depressed reaction. Story was predictably rough, but the third act almost salvages it, and many emotional beats hit just as much as the first. I genuinely loved some of the music (though I could do without a song or two), and the new songwriting pair bring an almost hectic energy to the fold which I liked. I feel for Barlow and Bear because I do think the reception would've been better to their music if it came out on Disney+ (and also I think the critiques are a little unfair against them as I could point to similar offenders in Lin's discography).

It'll do just fine in the box office, which I'm not sure if I'm happy about or not.
 

DrAlice

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Wow really? I don’t remember anything that was that scary. The hopper AA? At least nothing scarier for kids than the HM stretching room.
Hopper. That was THE moment when my daughter demanded (loudly, in tears) that we vacate the premises. She loved the Muppets.

It was fun to show her both shows on our recent trip to WDW. Now that she's a teen, she enjoyed them fully (and laughed at her younger self).
 
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Centauri Space Station

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Hopper. That was THE moment when my daughter demanded (loudly, in tears) that we vacate the premises. She loved the Muppets.

It was fun to show her both shows on our recent trip to WDW. Now that she's a teen, she enjoyed them fully (and laughed at her younger self).
I know Honey i shrunk the audience made me cry as a kid and my parents had to take me out, but i was able to enjoy it years later until its eventual removal
 

MoonRakerSCM

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I too had a ride that made me scream with utter terror when I was younger...

Screamed bloody murder... my parents couldn't get me on it.

No way in hell I was letting them have me go into Monstro's mouth...
 

DavidDL

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Looking for a bit of advice.. between the 14th and the 21st (Saturdays in December), which do y’all think would be a more manageable visit to Disneyland?

I know both will be busy, of course. But the 21st has all passes blocked out and costs 10 bucks more, which I am thinking may drive some folks away, but it is closer to Xmas so you never know. The 14th has the most expensive annual pass unblocked and all those reservations are taken so I know they will be there in force.

Which would you recommend between the two? Appreciate any and all thoughts.
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
This is driving me insane. It looks to be along the berm. I can't think of any place other than the HM that goes up to the berm like this but the wall and ceiling don't match the HM. My best guess would be the NOS restrooms but I don't think they touch the berm so closely. I demand answers, Mick!

Lol. Left entry tunnel. Between the berm and the Newsstand to the far left.
 

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