waltography
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Oof. Can't say I'm surprised, it was gonna happen sooner or later.
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The Miscellaneous Thought Thread
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TP2000
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What does that even mean? One of the 30,000 employees has a case of Monkeypox? Or one of the 80,000 customers that went through the gates today has a case of Monkeypox?
And even so, if they aren't having sex with their fellow CM's in the breakroom or the customers sitting at the next table to them at the Plaza Inn, who cares?
Californian Elitist
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One doesn’t have to have sex to get monkeypox. It’s passed by skin-to-skin contact, close contact with someone who has it, and touch in general.
TP2000
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In this current outbreak, that happens very rarely.
Without getting too graphic, it's sex between men. That kind. You know.
Monkeypox isn't spreading via the dirty handrails of the Disneyland Resort. Or by using the ray guns on Buzz Lightyear. Or squishing in next to sweaty tourists on the Submarines. Or pulling down on a lap bar at Thunder Mountain. It's spread primarily via men having intercourse with other men. To the tune of 98% or higher of all cases thus far. From NBC...
"Specifically, the authors of The New England Journal of Medicine paper estimated that just 0.8% of the cases they analyzed were due to nonsexual close contact and 0.6% were due to household contact."
Sex between men, not skin contact, is fueling monkeypox, new research suggests
The claim that skin-to-skin contact during sex between men, not intercourse itself, drives most monkeypox transmission is likely backward, a growing group of experts say.
www.nbcnews.com
But but but…. potential PANDEMIC! Ramp up that fear!In this current outbreak, that happens very rarely.
Without getting too graphic, it's sex between men. That kind. You know.
Monkeypox isn't spreading via the dirty handrails of the Disneyland Resort. Or by using the ray guns on Buzz Lightyear. Or squishing in next to sweaty tourists on the Submarines. Or pulling down on a lap bar at Thunder Mountain. It's spread primarily via men having intercourse with other men. To the tune of 98% or higher of all cases thus far. From NBC...
"Specifically, the authors of The New England Journal of Medicine paper estimated that just 0.8% of the cases they analyzed were due to nonsexual close contact and 0.6% were due to household contact."
Sex between men, not skin contact, is fueling monkeypox, new research suggests
The claim that skin-to-skin contact during sex between men, not intercourse itself, drives most monkeypox transmission is likely backward, a growing group of experts say.
Californian Elitist
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It doesn’t matter, it still happens, and one can contract it through ways outside of that. It’s not an STD.In this current outbreak, that happens very rarely.
Without getting too graphic, it's sex between men. That kind. You know.
Monkeypox isn't spreading via the dirty handrails of the Disneyland Resort. Or by using the ray guns on Buzz Lightyear. Or squishing in next to sweaty tourists on the Submarines. Or pulling down on a lap bar at Thunder Mountain. It's spread primarily via men having intercourse with other men. To the tune of 98% or higher of all cases thus far. From NBC...
"Specifically, the authors of The New England Journal of Medicine paper estimated that just 0.8% of the cases they analyzed were due to nonsexual close contact and 0.6% were due to household contact."
Sex between men, not skin contact, is fueling monkeypox, new research suggests
The claim that skin-to-skin contact during sex between men, not intercourse itself, drives most monkeypox transmission is likely backward, a growing group of experts say.
Plenty of people care. There, I put it in bold, for emphasis.
shambolicdefending
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My miscellaneous thought for the day...
Especially in the era of staffing shortages, why is Disney still maintaining max operating hours (8a-midnight) all the way through at least September? Isn't post-Labor Day about when we'd usually expect them to cut back their opening and closing times?
Especially in the era of staffing shortages, why is Disney still maintaining max operating hours (8a-midnight) all the way through at least September? Isn't post-Labor Day about when we'd usually expect them to cut back their opening and closing times?
Californian Elitist
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This is actually super cute.
chadwpalm
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What's funnier is that she refuses to sing the song anymore because the lyrics hit too close to home to the recent mass shootings....well....to her it does anyway.Was there really? I must admit that I'm not a huge fan and don't know too much about her, but I've always loved a few of her songs. I remember her as a great way to start the 1980's and put Disco quickly out to pasture.
Also, it absolutely cracks me up that WDI got that song into a ride at Disneyland! I mean, my God, the whole song is so trampy. And yet fabulous. Plus you can dance to it.
Disney has now got humorless nitwits in HR worrying about the Tiki Room and singing chickens on a log ride, while over in DCA these lyrics are blasting into ride vehicles every couple of minutes...
Before I put another notch in my lipstick case
You better make sure you put me in my place!
Hit me with your best shot...
C'mon!
Hit me with your best shot...
Pat Benatar refuses to sing 'Hit Me With Your Best Shot' after gun violence: 'You have to draw the line'
After 40-plus years, Pat Benatar is still standing with a defiant smile. She talks about gun violence, women in rock and the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
www.usatoday.com
DrAlice
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Good lawd, I'm going to enter the Monkeypox conversation against my better judgement......
Here goes: The reality is that @Californian Elitist is correct. Monkeypox is NOT an STD. It is spread by close contact. Why so many cases in gay men? Because an outbreak started following a festival/rave/sex party attended by mostly gay men in Europe. Since then, the medical profession has basically only been testing gay men for monkeypox. It isn't that others aren't getting it. It's that doctors are stuck on this stupid idea that "But you aren't a gay man, so it CAN'T be monkeypox!" and refusing to test people. There have been a number of cases in women, straight men, and children. For many of those cases they were first diagnosed as "eczema" or something similar and didn't actually get a correct diagnosis until they FOUGHT for their docs to do it (after weeks of symptoms not improving). For those of us old enough to remember the 80s, this story is very familiar.
Thankfully, monkeypox is usually not deadly.
Ok, I'm out. Not going to debate microbiology on here. Yes, I have sources for all of that, but whatever. You can believe me or not. Just wash your hands.
Here goes: The reality is that @Californian Elitist is correct. Monkeypox is NOT an STD. It is spread by close contact. Why so many cases in gay men? Because an outbreak started following a festival/rave/sex party attended by mostly gay men in Europe. Since then, the medical profession has basically only been testing gay men for monkeypox. It isn't that others aren't getting it. It's that doctors are stuck on this stupid idea that "But you aren't a gay man, so it CAN'T be monkeypox!" and refusing to test people. There have been a number of cases in women, straight men, and children. For many of those cases they were first diagnosed as "eczema" or something similar and didn't actually get a correct diagnosis until they FOUGHT for their docs to do it (after weeks of symptoms not improving). For those of us old enough to remember the 80s, this story is very familiar.
Thankfully, monkeypox is usually not deadly. Ok, I'm out. Not going to debate microbiology on here. Yes, I have sources for all of that, but whatever. You can believe me or not. Just wash your hands.
Californian Elitist
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THANK YOU. To suggest or even state that folks have nothing to worry about if they’re not a gay man is wrong, irresponsible, and ignorant. There are children contracting monkeypox.Good lawd, I'm going to enter the Monkeypox conversation against my better judgement......
Here goes: The reality is that @Californian Elitist is correct. Monkeypox is NOT an STD. It is spread by close contact. Why so many cases in gay men? Because an outbreak started following a festival/rave/sex party attended by mostly gay men in Europe. Since then, the medical profession has basically only been testing gay men for monkeypox. It isn't that others aren't getting it. It's that doctors are stuck on this stupid idea that "But you aren't a gay man, so it CAN'T be monkeypox!" and refusing to test people. There have been a number of cases in women, straight men, and children. For many of those cases they were first diagnosed as "eczema" or something similar and didn't actually get a correct diagnosis until they FOUGHT for their docs to do it (after weeks of symptoms not improving). For those of us old enough to remember the 80s, this story is very familiar.
Ok, I'm out. Not going to debate microbiology on here. Yes, I have sources for all of that, but whatever. You can believe me or not. Just wash your hands.
Also, let’s not contribute to the stigmatization of the gay community here in regards to this topic. Literally anyone and everyone can get monkeypox. This isn’t fear-mongering, this is reality.
TP2000
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Exactly. It's like some folks just want a new pandemic to worry about.
And spending a day at Disneyland is somehow going to give you Monkeypox???
Back at the first of the month I had a checkup with my doctor, and to do a heart workup. He was also in the service, has been my doctor for decades, and knows I'm gay. He brought up Monkeypox and asked if I wanted a shot because I was eligible as a gay man. I said "Doctor, I'm not that kind of a boy!". He loved that line. But we discussed it seriously for a few minutes, he reminded me that my childhood smallpox vaccine has likely waned away, and I told him I'm long since put out to pasture and that he should not worry about me hooking up with some guy at a bar any longer. I told him I'm happy to forego my shots for some young buck in Hillcrest that truly needs it. He said that was fine and was a smart strategy for now. Maybe later in '21 when the federal government finally gets its vaccine supplies in order will I get a shot, or at next year's August checkup.
Dear Prudence
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Look, all I am saying is that I am gonna need everyone to continue to stay away from me at all times.Good lawd, I'm going to enter the Monkeypox conversation against my better judgement......
Here goes: The reality is that @Californian Elitist is correct. Monkeypox is NOT an STD. It is spread by close contact. Why so many cases in gay men? Because an outbreak started following a festival/rave/sex party attended by mostly gay men in Europe. Since then, the medical profession has basically only been testing gay men for monkeypox. It isn't that others aren't getting it. It's that doctors are stuck on this stupid idea that "But you aren't a gay man, so it CAN'T be monkeypox!" and refusing to test people. There have been a number of cases in women, straight men, and children. For many of those cases they were first diagnosed as "eczema" or something similar and didn't actually get a correct diagnosis until they FOUGHT for their docs to do it (after weeks of symptoms not improving). For those of us old enough to remember the 80s, this story is very familiar.
Ok, I'm out. Not going to debate microbiology on here. Yes, I have sources for all of that, but whatever. You can believe me or not. Just wash your hands.
Disney Analyst
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It's not like you or anyone on here is advocating that there should be mass hysteria over Monkey Pox, currently.
What we are saying is that we need to be honest about Monkey Pox having the ability to spread to anyone, that it is not spread solely from sexual activity, and is not solely in the gay community. A study just came out for one gentlemen who had no sexual activity, and got it while at a 4 hour dance party.
IS the gay community the biggest sector impacted currently, yes! But Monkey Pox could have impacted any community similarly, had it started somewhere else first.
What we do know is that stigmatizing a disease / the community impacted, usually results in greater community spread as no focus is given to others outside the most impacted community.
TP2000
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But is it appropriate to suggest that going to Disneyland, or working there as a CM, has more than a miniscule chance of exposing you to Monkeypox?
A few facts for us all to put our minds at ease, from our old friends the California Department of Public Health, one of the most lavishly funded public health authorities in the world. Leave it to them, but they've got a webpage already that is detailing exactly who is getting Monkeypox in California, state population 39,500,000...
Friday, August 19th 2022 Update
Statewide Cases = 2,660
Age 0-17 Cases = 6
Age 18-75 Cases = 2,654
Men = 98.1% Cases (2620 Cases)
Women = 1.9% Cases (40 Cases)
2SLGBTQQIA+ Men = 100% Cases (2620 Cases)
Non-Acronym Straight Men = 0% Cases (0 Cases)
2SLGBTQQIA+ Women = 58% Cases (23 Cases)
Non-Acronym Straight Women = 42% Cases (17 Cases)
The racial demographics roughly follow normal California demographics; 39% Latino, 38% White, 12% Black, 8% Asian. Rinse & Repeat.
Mpox Data
www.cdph.ca.gov
Who is stigmatizing anyone? This is just reporting facts and data as collected by official government sources in California. I am very confident that no one is going to catch Monkeypox from a lap bar at Space Mountain.
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TP2000
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For those math whiz types out there, I just checked on Google.
2,660 cases in a state of 39.5 Million people is 0.006% of the state population. That's six one thousandths of a percent.
There are 83 cases reported in Orange County. 83 cases in a county of 3.4 Million people is 0.002% of the county population. That's two one thousandths of a percent.
2,660 cases in a state of 39.5 Million people is 0.006% of the state population. That's six one thousandths of a percent.
There are 83 cases reported in Orange County. 83 cases in a county of 3.4 Million people is 0.002% of the county population. That's two one thousandths of a percent.
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Californian Elitist
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No one said that, though. Someone shared a tweet where someone explained that a DL CM caught monkeypox, and you responded with “who cares,” after suggesting that people who aren’t gay or bisexual men have nothing to worry about. No one said they were cancelling their trips, no one freaked out… We simply said it’s possible to get it through various ways.But is it appropriate to suggest that going to Disneyland, or working there as a CM, has more than a miniscule chance of exposing you to Monkeypox? I can't figure that one out mathematically in my pea sized brain. You have a better chance of getting killed in the car driving to Disneyland than you do in getting Monkeypox in line at Space Mountain.
A few facts for us all to put our minds at ease, from our old friends the California Department of Public Health, one of the most lavishly funded public health authorities in the world. Leave it to them, but they've got a webpage already that is detailing exactly who is getting Monkeypox in California, state population 39,500,000...
Friday, August 19th 2022 Update
Statewide Cases = 2,660
Age 0-17 Cases = 6
Age 18-75 Cases = 2,654
Men = 98.1% Cases (2620 Cases)
Women = 1.9% Cases (40 Cases)
2SLGBTQQIA+ Men = 100% Cases (2620 Cases)
Non-Acronym Straight Men = 0% Cases (0 Cases)
2SLGBTQQIA+ Women = 75% Cases (32 Cases)
Non-Acronym Straight Women = 25% Cases (8 Cases)
The racial demographics roughly follow normal California demographics; 39% Latino, 38% White, 12% Black, 8% Asian. Rinse & Repeat.
Mpox Data
Who is stigmatizing anyone? This is just reporting facts and data as collected by official government sources in California. I am very confident that no one is going to catch Monkeypox from a lap bar at Space Mountain.
I would argue that you’re contributing to the stigmatization of the gay community by suggesting that folks who aren’t gay or bisexual men can’t get it, when they can.
