The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[TP2000]

My little kids loved them all. I wish Disney could figure out how to bang out several more of these smaller dark rides with the same quality with other IPs.

They're wonderful little rides. Pure charm and delight. And an important part of the Disneyland tapestry of experiences.

Meanwhile at WDW... they've got all the swampland they could want to expand their parks. But they refuse to build these types of small dark rides to help fill out their woefully ride-deprived parks. Especially the Magic Kingdom Park.

You're right. There should be a Beauty & The Beast dark ride, a Cinderella dark ride, a Pocahontas dark ride, a Moana dark ride, etc., etc. at WDW with all the vacant land and park expansion pads they have there abandoned.

 

[Rich T]

…Meanwhile at WDW... they've got all the swampland they could want to expand their parks. But they refuse to build these types of small dark rides to help fill out their woefully ride-deprived parks. Especially the Magic Kingdom Park.

You're right. There should be a Beauty & The Beast dark ride, a Cinderella dark ride, a Pocahontas dark ride, a Moana dark ride, etc., etc. at WDW with all the vacant land and park expansion pads they have there abandoned.

But who needs more rides when MK is getting Smellephants?

 

[Too Many Hats]

Very cool!! I just went on Alice the first time last week and thought it was so unique and quirky. Better than Mr. Toad's which I hope isn't blasphemy.

It's a fantastic ride. If I recall correctly, it's almost 3 1/2 minutes long, which is just incredible given its tiny footprint.

So no, not blasphemy at all. In descending order, I'd go Alice, Toad, Snow White, Pan, Pinocchio.

Snow White 2 times (man that Queen/Witch spin has me nervously watching my little kids' face)

My little kids loved them all. I wish Disney could figure out how to bang out several more of these smaller dark rides with the same quality with other IPs.

Yes. California Adventure, in particular, is crying out for some lo-fi dark rides.

 

[Too Many Hats]

I've never attended Oogie Boogie Bash; does Judge Doom show up every year? I'm pleasantly surprised to see Disney acknowledging this (wonderful) film in 2023.

 

[Parteecia]

This is fun.

I'm kind of sorry I watched it. It will be in my head whenever I ride from now on.

In the good old days, if the ride malfunctioned while you were on it, you would get an apology and an offer to re-ride under better conditions. Deliberately loading boggles my mind.

 

[TP2000]

Deliberately loading boggles my mind.

That was exactly what I took away from that video too. The CM's purposely did that, seemingly to avoid having to issue apologies and Re-Ride tickets on the App for the folks in the Portrait Gallery and loading area when the breakdown happened.

Something's just not right there. It's really bad decision making and showmanship.

And did folks even have a choice to exit without seeing the ride like that?

I'm sure a few AP'ers thought it was great and geeked out, but imagine the average tourist family from Great Falls, Montana or Stuttgart, Germany being shuffled on to the loading belt and into a Doombuggy to then experience the ride that way after a 60 Minute Standby wait or after purchasing Genie+????

 

[CaptinEO]

To be fair, so far as I know, a roller coaster at Knott's has never caused injury or worse to a guest due primarily to insufficient maintenance. Can't say the same about Disneyland.

Just wanted to provide this information in regards to Knotts. Not saying it's anything significant in terms of quantity but there have been a number of injuries and fatalities on their rides.

Incidents at Six Flags parks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[PiratesMansion]

Just wanted to provide this information in regards to Knotts. Not saying it's anything significant in terms of quantity but there have been a number of injuries and fatalities on their rides.

Incidents at Six Flags parks - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, obviously parks have occasional issues. You could find lists of issues at every park by every company in this country and others if you so desired.

But nothing like what happened with Disneyland's Big Thunder Mountain has ever happened with a Cedar Fair park-where the primary cause of injury/death was negligent maintenance. That was my point.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes, obviously parks have occasional issues. You could find lists of issues at every park by every company in this country and others if you so desired.

But nothing like what happened with Disneyland's Big Thunder Mountain has ever happened with a Cedar Fair park-where the primary cause of injury/death was negligent maintenance. That was my point.

That nobody was injured on Fury 325 was more luck than good work.

 

[PiratesMansion]

That nobody was injured on Fury 325 was more luck than good work.

Sure, and if we wanted to include this to "times parks were lucky it wasn't a lot worse", we'd never run out of examples.

Point being, I do not recall a single CF incident that turned out as badly as BTM DL. Sure, one could happen eventually. Hasn't happened yet, so far as I remember.

 

[Too Many Hats]

That Top Thrill Dragster injury (death?) was quite horrifying, from what I remember reading. I don’t care to look up the details.

But I agree that the Pressler-era incidents (Big Thunder, Mark Twain) were so bad. Inexcusably.

 

[CaptinEO]

Yes, obviously parks have occasional issues. You could find lists of issues at every park by every company in this country and others if you so desired.

But nothing like what happened with Disneyland's Big Thunder Mountain has ever happened with a Cedar Fair park-where the primary cause of injury/death was negligent maintenance. That was my point.

Here's 3 from the page I linked that would be entirely maintenance related. Again not defending Disney but just showing the reality that Knotts also has had incidents as a result of bad maintenance:

On September 16, 2009, a launch cable snapped on Xcelerator, lacerating a 12-year-old boy's leg and injuring his father's back.

On October 7, 2010, the launch system of Pony Express failed to propel a train over the first hill and rolled back into the station, colliding with another train and causing minor injuries to ten people. An investigation discovered that paint on the brake fins impaired the braking system. The investigation also revealed a lack of proper testing procedures by the park to anticipate failed launches and rollbacks.

On August 25, 1999, five people sustained injuries on GhostRider after being struck by a piece of wood while riding

 

[PiratesMansion]

That Top Thrill Dragster injury (death?) was quite horrifying, from what I remember reading. I don’t care to look up the details.

But I agree that the Pressler-era incidents (Big Thunder, Mark Twain) were so bad. Inexcusably.

Not great, but no deaths.

Here's 3 from the page I linked that would be entirely maintenance related. Again not defending Disney but just showing the reality that Knotts also has had incidents as a result of bad maintenance:

On September 16, 2009, a launch cable snapped on Xcelerator, lacerating a 12-year-old boy's leg and injuring his father's back.

On October 7, 2010, the launch system of Pony Express failed to propel a train over the first hill and rolled back into the station, colliding with another train and causing minor injuries to ten people. An investigation discovered that paint on the brake fins impaired the braking system. The investigation also revealed a lack of proper testing procedures by the park to anticipate failed launches and rollbacks.

On August 25, 1999, five people sustained injuries on GhostRider after being struck by a piece of wood while riding

And yet, no deaths.

 

[Suspirian]

I want Disney to make a haunt so we can get a Maelstrom maze in the same vein as Universals Dueling Dragons maze. Such cool to me that they turned a past attraction into a house.

 

[DCBaker]

Disneyland has shared details on a new limited-time nighttime entertainment offering coming to Disneyland Park.

Beginning Sept. 29, 2023, a new limited-time nighttime entertainment offering “The Heartbeat of New Orleans – A Living Mural” will enchant guests at Disneyland Park. Set to a dynamic jazz score, projections on the Rivers of America will tell a short, whimsical tale of a mischievous little frog from the bayou that leaps into the lively heartbeat of New Orleans when he is lured by the jazzy sounds he hears in the distance. This unique art installation will animate original artwork by Disney Live Entertainment graphic designer Marcella “Marci” Swett, best known for her chalk art at Downtown Disney District during Celebrate Soulfully. “The Heartbeat of New Orleans – A Living Mural” and Queenie and the Jambalaya Jazz Band will enhance the atmosphere on the Rivers of America on select evenings this fall, and will run nightly during the holiday season.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Disneyland has shared details on a new limited-time nighttime entertainment offering coming to Disneyland Park.

Beginning Sept. 29, 2023, a new limited-time nighttime entertainment offering “The Heartbeat of New Orleans – A Living Mural” will enchant guests at Disneyland Park. Set to a dynamic jazz score, projections on the Rivers of America will tell a short, whimsical tale of a mischievous little frog from the bayou that leaps into the lively heartbeat of New Orleans when he is lured by the jazzy sounds he hears in the distance. This unique art installation will animate original artwork by Disney Live Entertainment graphic designer Marcella “Marci” Swett, best known for her chalk art at Downtown Disney District during Celebrate Soulfully. “The Heartbeat of New Orleans – A Living Mural” and Queenie and the Jambalaya Jazz Band will enhance the atmosphere on the Rivers of America on select evenings this fall, and will run nightly during the holiday season.

A surprisingly appropriate offering! Sounds like a simple but atmospheric offering!

 

[Parteecia]

Disneyland has shared details on a new limited-time nighttime entertainment offering coming to Disneyland Park.

Beginning Sept. 29, 2023, a new limited-time nighttime entertainment offering “The Heartbeat of New Orleans – A Living Mural” will enchant guests at Disneyland Park. Set to a dynamic jazz score, projections on the Rivers of America will tell a short, whimsical tale of a mischievous little frog from the bayou that leaps into the lively heartbeat of New Orleans when he is lured by the jazzy sounds he hears in the distance. This unique art installation will animate original artwork by Disney Live Entertainment graphic designer Marcella “Marci” Swett, best known for her chalk art at Downtown Disney District during Celebrate Soulfully. “The Heartbeat of New Orleans – A Living Mural” and Queenie and the Jambalaya Jazz Band will enhance the atmosphere on the Rivers of America on select evenings this fall, and will run nightly during the holiday season.

I look forward to this. My friend and I visited with her while she was creating art in DDD. We enjoyed her and her work very much.

 

[CaptinEO]

This is why no one likes Disney adults.

 

[Californian Elitist]

This is why no one likes Disney adults.

Everyone who posts here is a “Disney adult” in some measure, shape, or form, myself and yourself included.

What’s wrong with what he’s doing?

 

[Disney Analyst]

Everyone who posts here is a “Disney adult” in some measure, shape, or form, myself and yourself included.

What’s wrong with what he’s doing?

All I see is a well dressed, attractive (to me), person, who is showing off a neat little bit of theming from this new land.

Those are gonna be a popular photo spot.