The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

waltography

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It reminds me of the way the luggage conveyor belts—the ones that turn corners—work, and it is fun and weird to ride on. I’d occasionally try to take my eyes off the game and take a good look at the ride system, and, man, that thing takes some sharp turns. I loved it. 😀 I felt like George Jetson entering his office.
If they sped it up a little I could totally imagine it as a thrill ride. 😂
 

TP2000

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Okay, gang. In about 10 hours I'm going to drive from southern Utah to San Diego. During the hottest week of the year. The car is packed to the gills, and I have been assured by the dealership last week that it's mechanically in top shape.

But just in case you don't hear from me within 24 hours, send out a few drones to scour the tumbleweed clogged shoulders of I-15 to look for a dehydrated old man who insisted on taking a sport coat into the desert in July because he was stopping for a nice lunch at Caesars Palace.

Thursday, July 19th Weather Forecast
Las Vegas NV = 114 and Sunny
Barstow CA = 110 and Sunny
San Diego CA = 75 and Sunny
(I can make it, I know I can)
 

Suspirian

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A theme park with a title like that is already sending my guards up and getting my suspicion brewing. It being in Oklahoma doesn’t help.

I don’t know about this one.
It def seems like a "we're not woke here!" type of move lol

That aside I've always thought an USA themed theme park was kind of a boring idea even when it was Disney. Oddly enough prefer the idea of smaller region based things like DCA or Six Flags Over Texas (when it was that at least). That being said I think a theme park themed to The Americas (North and South) would be good.
 

Rich T

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Frankly, I’d rather just see a park do it’s own unique, creative themes, like Wildwood Grove at Dollywood or Rookburgh at Phantasialand. Epic Universe will be (according to vloggers) giving us Vikings, the constellations and Classic Monsters— something new and fresh in the U.S. This Oklahoma park needs to show what makes it different from previous parks with similar American history themes.
 
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Californian Elitist

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It def seems like a "we're not woke here!" type of move lol

That aside I've always thought an USA themed theme park was kind of a boring idea even when it was Disney. Oddly enough prefer the idea of smaller region based things like DCA or Six Flags Over Texas (when it was that at least). That being said I think a theme park themed to The Americas (North and South) would be good.
Facts lol. I thought the same thing… It’s giving “patriot,” “Merica” vibes. I’m not going to fully write it off yet because of lack of details. We’ll see.

I too am not interested in a theme park themed to America.
 

PiratesMansion

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Every American park is themed to America at least a little bit.

For those who disagree or think that's not enough, we already have TWO Great Americas (although the fact that there will soon only be one may or may not say anything about people's interest in the concept). Heck, if you want America: the theme park, but the Great Americas are just too good for you, there's even Six Flags America, possibly the most hated park owned by a major theme park corporation in this country 🤣🤣🤣

So to say you're the MOST Murrica will probably play well with some but does nothing for me, a Theme Park Intellectual who has Seen It All* at this point.

*Claim void in New England
 

Rich T

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Every American park is themed to America at least a little bit.

For those who disagree or think that's not enough, we already have TWO Great Americas (although the fact that there will soon only be one may or may not say anything about people's interest in the concept). Heck, if you want America: the theme park, but the Great Americas are just too good for you, there's even Six Flags America, possibly the most hated park owned by a major theme park corporation in this country 🤣🤣🤣

So to say you're the MOST Murrica will probably play well with some but does nothing for me, a Theme Park Intellectual who has Seen It All* at this point.

*Claim void in New England
I would guess very, very few people visit theme parks (Disney and Universal aside) because of the theme, America or otherwise. They go for the rides. If the theme, America or otherwise, is carried out in a way that creates a pleasant environment, guests will remember the park’s nice atmosphere as a reason to return.

I was a teenager when Marriott’s announced their upcoming Great America parks. In the beginning of the publicity campaign, they put heavy emphasis on the America theme and the promise of live entertainment (the Bicentennial was approaching, after all). It wasn’t until months later, when I drove past the Santa Clara site and spotted the recognizable support structures for the flumes and the Whizzer coaster, that I really started to get excited—Relieved to find that, despite the initial publicity’s emphasis on *everything* else, this place was, indeed, going to have some big time rides, the likes of which the Bay Area had never seen before.

I’m sure that, on opening day, as my car full of friends and I waited in a long line of cars at 6 in the morning to get a good spot in line at the entry gate, most of those thousands of arriving people would have come no matter what the park’s chosen theme had been. 😃
 

Rich T

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Oh, cool, the new standalone dark ride at Monterey’s Cannery Row is apparently previewing to YouTubers! Been looking forward to seeing how this turns out; Sally Corp. contributed to this, I bet it’s gonna be great!!!
(Watches video) Ummmm…
(Checks website) $19.99. $24.99 in the afternoon. Ummmm….

This… is… not… great… And as a part-Scottish American, I’m dismayed by the incompetent Scottish mechanic character who farts at the guests and refers to it as playing the bagpipes…
 
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waltography

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Oh, cool, the new standalone dark ride at Monterey’s Cannery Row is apparently previewing to YouTubers! Been looking forward to seeing how this turns out; Sally Corp. contributed to this, I bet it’s gonna be great!!!
(Watches video) Ummmm…
(Checks website) $19.99. $24.99 in the afternoon. Ummmm….

This… is… not… great… And as a part-Scottish American, I’m dismayed by the incompetent Scottish mechanic character who farts at the guests and refers to it as playing the bagpipes

Oh boy, I wouldn't even know where to begin with this one... it's like what if they rethemed Toy Story Mania to Shanghai Pirates and made every scene the final scene. I'd find it charming if it wasn't so exorbitantly priced.

Also, the off-brand "Pirate's Life" and flourishes lifted from the Pirates score in that preshow is sending me. The mist screen Davy Jones did make me a little nostalgic, though; I think the ride designers do love the original PotC in a strange way.
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
If this makes it all the way from concept to opening, I wish them the best of luck.

Sounds good to me but Oklahoma? Who’s going to fly there just to visit this park? In addition, according to the comments it’s an hour away from any major city in Oklahoma. I’m sure part of the reason is cheap land but I’m there are plenty of other places across the US with cheap land. Would have preferred to hear this park was planned for a Southern state. Or in one of the 13 original colonies. Or how about somewhere like Montana? Knock out Yellowstone while I’m at it.
 

mickEblu

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Original Poster
Well, unfortunately I couldn’t afford any of the Disneyland items up for auction this week but I did get me this amazing Splash Mountain marquee replica from a very talented artist on Etsy. Much better than any replica Disney has sold in the park. (I’m looking at you, pixelated, flat, Enchanted Tiki Room sign for sale at Disneyana). It looks even better in person. Less saturated, more three dimensional and has a nice texture to it too. Nice size at about 31” x 10.” He has some other great signs too. This one was custom but he pumps out tons of great Star Tours, Space Mountain, POTC and light up TOT signs among others.

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TP2000

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I survived. And I actually had fun today.

Las Vegas is such a weird town. Especially in the middle of summer when it's 110 in the shade. I saw the giant Sphere, but since it was high Noon when I was there it looked kind of... weird. At night I'm sure it's impressive, but in bright July sun it looks like Spaceship Earth's father who is grumpy. Hard to explain, but in bright daylight it looks weird and almost like an alien spaceship.

If you want a great lunch buffet, run don't walk to Caesars Palace and their Bacchanal Buffet. Not only is it perhaps the best name for a buffet in the history of man, but it's just darn good. Fresh, crisp, friendly, stylish in a Vegasy sort of way. You can't go wrong. I'm biased because I only stay at Caesars Palace when I am in Las Vegas, but still.

TP2000 Lifestyle Reminder: Even at a serve-yourself buffet, when a waitress brings you drinks and freshens your table, always ALWAYS tip her. And tip her well. The waitress I had today at Caesars was a doll. I'd like to think she used my tip to buy a nice bottle of wine for herself and a bag of Lavender scented Epsom salts for her feet this evening.

It was over 100 degrees for most of my drive, but after 7 hours of driving and just as the sun was heading towards the ocean I dropped off the freeway onto La Jolla Parkway and upon cresting the hill the temperature plunged to 73 degrees as if on cue. Funny how that works.

My Dad's pride and joy for the last years of his life was his 1967 Lincoln (Sorry mom, but it's true); burgundy sedan with black leather and all the options. But it was known to overheat when the outside temp got above 90, and the four barrel carb feeding the 460 V8 would stall. Even fancy cars used to do that 50 years ago. It's amazing to me that we now have cars that can drive 7 hours across the desert at 85mph in some of the hottest temps on the planet and not even breathe hard. After 7 hours across the searing Southwest my car glided into the old beach house driveway like it had just made a short trip to Trader Joe's and back.

Truly amazing and impressive how far we've come with automotive technology. I bet some of the kids here don't even know that cars used to routinely overheat and blow a radiator gasket on days like this.
 
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PiratesMansion

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I would guess very, very few people visit theme parks (Disney and Universal aside) because of the theme, America or otherwise. They go for the rides. If the theme, America or otherwise, is carried out in a way that creates a pleasant environment, guests will remember the park’s nice atmosphere as a reason to return.

I was a teenager when Marriott’s announced their upcoming Great America parks. In the beginning of the publicity campaign, they put heavy emphasis on the America theme and the promise of live entertainment (the Bicentennial was approaching, after all). It wasn’t until months later, when I drove past the Santa Clara site and spotted the recognizable support structures for the flumes and the Whizzer coaster, that I really started to get excited—Relieved to find that, despite the initial publicity’s emphasis on *everything* else, this place was, indeed, going to have some big time rides, the likes of which the Bay Area had never seen before.

I’m sure that, on opening day, as my car full of friends and I waited in a long line of cars at 6 in the morning to get a good spot in line at the entry gate, most of those thousands of arriving people would have come no matter what the park’s chosen theme had been. 😃
Oh, I'm well aware that theme is irrelevant. What I learned pretty quickly in this hobby is that VERY few people are at all interested in visiting any park beyond whatever is local unless it's Disney or Universal. Heck, you can't even get Disney or Universal fans to even visit the OTHER Disney or Universal in this country because people are that apathetic about what other theme parks have to offer. I've never understood theme park provincialism.

I am eternally bummed that I never got to ride the Sky Whirl. Hopefully California's Columbia will find a fitting home.
Oh, cool, the new standalone dark ride at Monterey’s Cannery Row is apparently previewing to YouTubers! Been looking forward to seeing how this turns out; Sally Corp. contributed to this, I bet it’s gonna be great!!!
(Watches video) Ummmm…
(Checks website) $19.99. $24.99 in the afternoon. Ummmm….

This… is… not… great… And as a part-Scottish American, I’m dismayed by the incompetent Scottish mechanic character who farts at the guests and refers to it as playing the bagpipes…

I was actually in Monterey last week and saw signage for this. I was interested...but I saw the $24.99 price and balked. Not sure who they think is going to pay for that. The roller coaster at NYNY in Vegas is $25, but it's a roller coaster...in Vegas.

Nobody in their right mind is going to pay $25 for a dark ride.
Sounds good to me but Oklahoma? Who’s going to fly there just to visit this park? In addition, according to the comments it’s an hour away from any major city in Oklahoma. I’m sure part of the reason is cheap land but I’m there are plenty of other places across the US with cheap land. Would have preferred to hear this park was planned for a Southern state. Or in one of the 13 original colonies. Or how about somewhere like Montana? Knock out Yellowstone while I’m at it.
I'm guessing they're hoping people will drive in, and I'm probably the only person I know who would hop on a plane for most theme parks anyway. There are certainly a lot of tourist sights in the Midwest (or Midwest-adjacent or wherever Oklahoma considers itself to be) used to driving long distances for trips. It IS always striking, though, how few flights there are and how expensive they are to cities in that region of the country. I know a lot of East Coast coaster enthusiasts who would absolutely love to visit Silver Dollar City, but decent airfare either just doesn't exist or is exhorbitantly priced.
 

Rich T

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I am eternally bummed that I never got to ride the Sky Whirl.
It was not a very fun experience. Because of its design, a typical ride might last 10-12 minutes, and I’m sure it caused a lot of motion sickness just because of its duration; it slowly, methodically brought me to the brink of hurling every time 😃. The only fun moments were at the beginning, when the slowly rising cabs would suddenly swing as the spinning began, and the weird, unique traveling sensation during the wheel’s shift to the 2nd raised position.

This was a ride that I believe most guests were happy to be freed from at the cycle’s end. It was far more fun to look at than to ride.
 

Consumer

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I survived. And I actually had fun today.

Las Vegas is such a weird town. Especially in the middle of summer when it's 110 in the shade. I saw the giant Sphere, but since it was high Noon when I was there it looked kind of... weird. At night I'm sure it's impressive, but in bright July sun it looks like Spaceship Earth's father who is grumpy. Hard to explain, but in bright daylight it looks weird and almost like an alien spaceship.

If you want a great lunch buffet, run don't walk to Caesars Palace and their Bacchanal Buffet. Not only is it perhaps the best name for a buffet in the history of man, but it's just darn good. Fresh, crisp, friendly, stylish in a Vegasy sort of way. You can't go wrong. I'm biased because I only stay at Caesars Palace when I am in Las Vegas, but still.

TP2000 Lifestyle Reminder: Even at a serve-yourself buffet, when a waitress brings you drinks and freshens your table, always ALWAYS tip her. And tip her well. The waitress I had today at Caesars was a doll. I'd like to think she used my tip to buy a nice bottle of wine for herself and a bag of Lavender scented Epsom salts for her feet this evening.

It was over 100 degrees for most of my drive, but after 7 hours of driving and just as the sun was heading towards the ocean I dropped off the freeway onto La Jolla Parkway and upon cresting the hill the temperature plunged to 73 degrees as if on cue. Funny how that works.

My Dad's pride and joy for the last years of his life was his 1967 Lincoln (Sorry mom, but it's true); burgundy sedan with black leather and all the options. But it was known to overheat when the outside temp got above 90, and the four barrel carb feeding the 460 V8 would stall. Even fancy cars used to do that 50 years ago. It's amazing to me that we now have cars that can drive 7 hours across the desert at 85mph in some of the hottest temps on the planet and not even breathe hard. After 7 hours across the searing Southwest my car glided into the old beach house driveway like it had just made a short trip to Trader Joe's and back.

Truly amazing and impressive how far we've come with automotive technology. I bet some of the kids here don't even know that cars used to routinely overheat and blow a radiator gasket on days like this.
Glad you made it safe, TP.

I made a similar drive myself yesterday, venturing from LA to The Grand Canyon. It was 116 at the state border, and my Toyota managed just fine chugging through the Mojave. Continuing east today so praying that continues to be true as I venture further into the Arizona desert.

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