The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

D.Silentu

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As my post above turned out to be redundant, here's some more spice for the stew. About a year before Smuggler's Run opened, there was a demo shown off at some tech presentation, showcasing the Unreal Engine software that powers the ride. I recall the demo being different than the ride we have today, with the climax having the ship knock down a row of parked AT-AT Walkers, which toppled like dominos. Again, regretfully, I can't seem to find the footage.
 

chadwpalm

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As my post above turned out to be redundant, here's some more spice for the stew. About a year before Smuggler's Run opened, there was a demo shown off at some tech presentation, showcasing the Unreal Engine software that powers the ride. I recall the demo being different than the ride we have today, with the climax having the ship knock down a row of parked AT-AT Walkers, which toppled like dominos. Again, regretfully, I can't seem to find the footage.
 

mickEblu

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So glad that’s changed. I agree that it is really crazy and cool to see the fashion evolution.

I love the idea of dressing up but unfortunately my body wasn’t really made for suits unless they re tailored. I have long arms but I’m not tall at 5’10. Wide chest and wide hips. When I was 152 pounds in college I still had a 33-34 waist. So as the waist sizes go up the legs start looking baggy and sloppy. So basically I suffer in the waist area to avoid looking like my uncles and Dads cousins who wear those awful baggy suits. Can’t remember the last time I was comfortable in a suit. Having to unbutton your pants when you sit down is no fun. It’s even less fun to button them back up with no one catching you.

So I suppose I’m glad it’s changed as well even though I like the idea of it. Kind of like sushi.
 
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Californian Elitist

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I love the idea of dressing up but unfortunately my body wasn’t really made for suits unless they re tailored. I have long arms but I’m not tall at 5’10. Wide chest and wide hips. When I was 152 pounds in college I still had a 33-34 waist. So as the waist sizes go up the legs start looking baggy and sloppy. So basically I suffer in the waist area to avoid looking like my uncles and Dads cousins who wear those awful baggy suits. Can’t remember the last time I was comfortable in a suit. Having to unbutton your pants when you sit down is no fun. It’s even less fun to button them back up with no one catching you.

So I suppose I’m glad it’s changed as well even though I like the idea of it. Kind of like sushi.
I understand. I actually love dressing up. I genuinely enjoy putting some effort and thought into what I’m wearing. I’m going to a friend’s wedding in Italy next month and I have put so much thought into my entire outfit and appearance, including hair accessories, jewelry, and nails. Beauty is pain, but I’m willing to potentially be a just a tad uncomfortable for special occasions. However, I have no desire for any discomfort as a guest at Disneyland. If I’m going to be walking around a theme park for hours and waiting in various lines, the last thing I want to be wearing is a dress, stockings, and heels.

Maybe you’ll find a suit that suits you in the future (pun very much intended).
 

BasiltheBatLord

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So glad that’s changed. I agree that it is really crazy and cool to see the fashion evolution.
Agree that suits and dresses are too much, but it is a real sign of some kind of cultural decline how sloppy the average American dresses these days. I live abroad and every time I come back it is genuinely shocking what some people go out in public looking like.
 

SuddenStorm

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I love the idea of dressing up but unfortunately my body wasn’t really made for suits unless they re tailored. I have long arms but I’m not tall at 5’10. Wide chest and wide hips. When I was 152 pounds in college I still had a 33-34 waist. So as the waist sizes go up the legs start looking baggy and sloppy. So basically I suffer in the waist area to avoid looking like my uncles and Dads cousins who wear those awful baggy suits. Can’t remember the last time I was comfortable in a suit. Having to unbutton your pants when you sit down is no fun. It’s even less fun to button them back up with no one catching you.

So I suppose I’m glad it’s changed as well even though I like the idea of it. Kind of like sushi.

My man, find yourself a good tailor. I recently found one and it's life changing.
 

SuddenStorm

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Gotta do that! The few times I went to the rando tailor at the cleaners didn’t turn out the best.

There's basically three levels of tailor-

Your cleaner's tailor that you should only trust with inexpensive clothing, and simple alterations like hemming pants.

Then your standard tailor that you can trust with almost any alteration, including coats and dress shirts.

Then there's the tailors that can (and probably do) build bespoke suits- these tailors are much pricier but if the garment is especially rare or valuable it might be worth it.

I weightlift a lot, so my thighs are large in proportion to my body, which makes off the rack trousers tough as they're either too tight or too baggy. My tailor is able to taper and hem the baggy ones and make them fit perfectly- not to mention the miracles he's worked on some suits I've obtained.
 

Californian Elitist

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Agree that suits and dresses are too much, but it is a real sign of some kind of cultural decline how sloppy the average American dresses these days. I live abroad and every time I come back it is genuinely shocking what some people go out in public looking like.
Eh. That’s subjective. People have been complaining about what folks are wearing for centuries. Because of that, I can’t and won’t call it a “cultural decline.”
 

mickEblu

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There's basically three levels of tailor-

Your cleaner's tailor that you should only trust with inexpensive clothing, and simple alterations like hemming pants.

Then your standard tailor that you can trust with almost any alteration, including coats and dress shirts.

Then there's the tailors that can (and probably do) build bespoke suits- these tailors are much pricier but if the garment is especially rare or valuable it might be worth it.

I weightlift a lot, so my thighs are large in proportion to my body, which makes off the rack trousers tough as they're either too tight or too baggy. My tailor is able to taper and hem the baggy ones and make them fit perfectly- not to mention the miracles he's worked on some suits I've obtained.

I’m impressed with your knowledge and passion for this. I definitely have to find a good tailor. Just for the fact that I need to wear “Tall” for my sleeves when I’m only 5’10. That’s the first big issue without even getting into the waist stuff.
 

PiratesMansion

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Two things can simultaneously be true:
1. The average person in Japan and Europe dresses sharper than the average American.
2. I just don't want to spend my days wearing dress clothes (I already have to do that for work).

I do buy the theory that what you wear does affect how you act-my college choir would go on tour every year, and for all but one day we were essentially business casual pre-concert and tuxes during our concerts. There was a noticeable vibe shift on the one day of tour each year that we weren't performing and thus could wear whatever we wanted.

I do think that there is absolutely smarter clothing out there that is still casual, and I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to more people dressing like that. I'm not going to pretend I've never done an aside glance at what someone chose to wear out in public. But I have no interest in policing what others wear, or having others police what I wear. Life's too short.
 

eddie104

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What’s considered the average person in Europe or Japan ??

Why do people try to label this huge country as one thing is beyond me. So just because you visit London, Paris and Tokyo that means the average person in those countries dress like that ?

People in California and New York don’t even dress the same so blanket statements are far from facts.
 

PiratesMansion

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What’s considered the average person in Europe or Japan ??

Why do people try to label this huge country as one thing is beyond me. So just because you visit London, Paris and Tokyo that means the average person in those countries dress like that ?

People in California and New York don’t even dress the same so blanket statements are far from facts.
While I can't speak for all of Europe (though I would say based on what I have experienced that the assertion that the average European looks better dressed isn't false), I did spend a month in Japan in 2010, and another two weeks in 2019, and can verify that, in general, people are dressed more neatly and with more attention put into looking "well groomed", for lack of a better term, than in the US. I never saw a person in Japan that dressed in a way that made them look like a slob. I never saw anyone in Japan dressed similarly to how some people here might dress to go to Walmart.

Now of course the US is a big country with huge regional differences, etc. so perhaps expecting some sort of universal dress code is a fool's errand. I don't necessarily want the expectation of a dress code any different from what we have right now, because I personally would rather be comfortable than, say, wear dress clothes constantly or have to worry about looking perfect at all times. But there is definitely a noticeable difference in presentation, on average, between the US and Japan. One that from a visual perspective is decidedly not in our favor.
 
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Consumer

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What’s considered the average person in Europe or Japan ??

Why do people try to label this huge country as one thing is beyond me. So just because you visit London, Paris and Tokyo that means the average person in those countries dress like that ?

People in California and New York don’t even dress the same so blanket statements are far from facts.
New York and California are two separate states with separate cultures, climate, and geography, where as Japan is one state with a generally homogeneous culture, climate, and geography.
 

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