@PiratesMansion what did you think of ROTR?
The development I'm moving to in Utah already has a complete set of SoCal expats welcoming me with open arms.![]()
Super off topic but this is the misc thought thread so who cares-
While walking through a neighborhood in Utah County a few weeks ago I noticed a cart with a bumper sticker that says 'Utah Sucks! Don't Move here!"
It's associated with this satirical website- https://www.utahsucksdontmovehere.com/
The sentiment that too many Californians are moving to the state is shared among many of the older generation- but also, who can blame them?
I can think of a dozen family friends from Southern California who have left in the last 7 years- many of whom to Utah. Heck, my parents are scoping out properties out here to rent and eventually retire in.
But there's some amazing communities being built in Daybreak, Eagle Mountain, and some other areas so who can blame them?
Then you open a bottle of Malbec
We're having a fabulous SoCal summer. It's been cooler than normal all over California this summer,
I just hope you're prepared for Utah's far more stringent alcohol laws!
I was thinking the same thing recently except for those really nasty couple weeks towards the end of June/ early July. Here in the valley at least.
My friend got maybe two hours into our first day before declaring DL superior to WDW.
For someone who goes to Disneyland 25x a year and is planning a $10,000 Disney World trip this statement is a bit concerning and gives me cold feet.
For the first two decades of the 21st century, if it weren't for Epcot Center, or whatever fumes it was still coasting on during that time, I wouldn't have thought about going back to WDW. But it was always Epcot that caused me to pull the trigger.
No longer. Whatever remains of 20th century Epcot is weak and watered down. What replaced the removed parts of 20th century Epcot is vapid and confusing. Or just tacky.
I may never return to WDW again in my lifetime at this point, and I will focus on Tokyo Disneyland instead. And I'm pretty darn sure I'm going to be okay with that.![]()
With that said, I currently have rooms booked at WDW for next March. We’ll see. March is far away and they don’t need the balance until January. Haha
Keep them waiting. Make them think they've got you. Then cancel and go to Pismo Beach instead.
I absolutely loved it!@PiratesMansion what did you think of ROTR?
In terms of Italy I think the kids would come to appreciate Italy more if you go later. Honestly with the age your kids are you are probably making the right choice. Keep in mind once they’re teenagers they can partake in Vino in Tuscany or really appreciate the art in Florence or historic sites in Rome and you can take them on a full tour starting with Sicily and then up the coast from Naples.For someone who goes to Disneyland 25x a year and is planning a $10,000 Disney World trip this statement is a bit concerning and gives me cold feet. Not that I needed much outside help. I'm noticing a pattern here...
I get an itch to go to WDW > Start planning WDW trip > Hit a wall during planning trying to get everything to align> Realize that for our party with young kids + everything we're trying to accomplish it needs to be a long trip at Moderate to Deluxe Hotels> Realize that the way we want/need to do WDW will cost a lot of $$$ > start comparing to other vacations you can do for 10k
I mean for 10k I can go to Italy for two weeks. We have a lot of family in Sicily and I've been dreaming of the Mediterranean Sea and the street food in Palermo since the last time I was there in 2001.
So yeah it kind of makes me want to scale back the WDW trip or just go to Italy. Lol. Think my soul could use that before being stressed out and exhausted just to be able to compare different versions of POTC. Hahah
To put things in context, she has been to WDW two different times, both recent-ish but several years apart. She's very 'general public' when it comes to Disney.For someone who goes to Disneyland 25x a year and is planning a $10,000 Disney World trip this statement is a bit concerning and gives me cold feet. Not that I needed much outside help. I'm noticing a pattern here...
I get an itch to go to WDW > Start planning WDW trip > Hit a wall during planning trying to get everything to align> Realize that for our party with young kids + everything we're trying to accomplish it needs to be a long trip at Moderate to Deluxe Hotels> Realize that the way we want/need to do WDW will cost a lot of $$$ > start comparing to other vacations you can do for 10k
I mean for 10k I can go to Italy for two weeks. We have a lot of family in Sicily and I've been dreaming of the Mediterranean Sea and the street food in Palermo since the last time I was there in 2001.
So yeah it kind of makes me want to scale back the WDW trip or just go to Italy. Lol. Think my soul could use that before being stressed out and exhausted just to be able to compare different versions of POTC. Hahah
I mean for 10k I can go to Italy for two weeks. We have a lot of family in Sicily and I've been dreaming of the Mediterranean Sea and the street food in Palermo since the last time I was there in 2001.
So yeah it kind of makes me want to scale back the WDW trip or just go to Italy. Lol. Think my soul could use that before being stressed out and exhausted just to be able to compare different versions of POTC. Hahah
For the first two decades of the 21st century, if it weren't for Epcot Center, or whatever fumes it was still coasting on during that time, I wouldn't have thought about going back to WDW. But it was always Epcot that caused me to pull the trigger.
No longer. Whatever remains of 20th century Epcot is weak and watered down. What replaced the removed parts of 20th century Epcot or has been added to it is vapid and underwhelming. Or just tacky.
I may never return to WDW again in my lifetime at this point, and I will focus on Tokyo Disneyland instead. And I'm pretty darn sure I'm going to be okay with that.![]()
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