The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Phroobar

Phroobar

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David Warner died at age 80.

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David Warner, who played villains in 'Titanic' and 'Tron,' dies at 80 | CNN

Warner, who was also in "The Omen" and "Mary Poppins Returns," died from a cancer-related illness, his family said.
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truecoat

truecoat

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truecoat

truecoat

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mickEblu said:
Agree. Stop telling me I need to help you save the day. It’s so tired. With that said, Cosmic Rewind looks pretty atmospheric if I remember the ride through correctly. Have only seen it a couple times. Just the fact that it’s able to come through on screen at all must mean it looks 100x better in person.

Anyway, I think most of us can agree that either of these coasters would be preferable to another screen ride. I enjoy Soarin and I’m pretty sure I’ll enjoy FOP but I think what makes both of those rides special is the scenery. For a story focused on action like An Avengers ride would be, I don’t think a screen based attraction is the right move.

Also I’m not so sure something isn’t coming to AC. If they re willing to build another ride in Fantasyland I have to imagine they’re willing to give AC the (new) E ticket anchor it needs.
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The great thing about FOP is that you're not there to save the day. You get to experience riding a banshee and enjoying the fun of flight. It's the best ride at a Disney park in my eyes.
 
Too Many Hats

Too Many Hats

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CaptinEO said:
160 million dollars to add plastic figures and red paint on California Screamin.
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How is this possible.

CaptinEO said:
The way WDI works with budgets is terrible. Even when their budgets are slashed they don't get the message. Other parks can do much more for 1/3rd of the cost it takes for WDI to do something.
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I guess I need to do some reading about this. I've heard rumors about Imagineering's "inefficiencies" for a long time but have never really looked into it. I understand the research trips may be extravagant and in some cases unnecessary, but Ritz-Carlton stays alone don't seem to explain the gulf in spending between Universal Creative and Imagineering.

Does the blame fall solely on Imagineering, then? If we look at this terrible Avengers coaster in Paris, should we assume the overlay received an adequate budget and it was squandered?
 
TP2000

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truecoat said:
He was great as Jack the Ripper in a little-known movie called Time After Time. Also starring Malcolm McDowell as HG Wells and a young Mary Steenburgen.
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I had forgotten about that movie! Am I thinking of the right one; he figures out how to time travel via the mind, and he goes back to find Jack the Ripper and falls in love with the girl, but then at the end of the movie he accidentally finds a penny in his pocket from 1979 and he goes hurtling back to the present day and loses the girl?
 
truecoat

truecoat

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TP2000 said:
I had forgotten about that movie! Am I thinking of the right one; he figures out how to time travel via the mind, and he goes back to find Jack the Ripper and falls in love with the girl, but then at the end of the movie he accidentally finds a penny in his pocket from 1979 and he goes hurtling back to the present day and loses the girl?
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That's a Christopher Reeves movie you're thinking about. HG Wells develops a time machine and one of his house guests (Jack the Ripper) escapes the police using it.
 
TP2000

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
I've heard rumors about Imagineering's "inefficiencies" for a long time but have never really looked into it. I understand the research trips may be extravagant and in some cases unnecessary, but Ritz-Carlton stays alone don't seem to explain the gulf in spending between Universal Creative and Imagineering.
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You're right. The Ritz-Carlton research trips is just me being snarky, as that type of extravagance is well known in WDI, but it's just a drop in the bucket in the big scheme of things.

Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
Does the blame fall solely on Imagineering, then? If we look at this terrible Avengers coaster in Paris, should we assume the overlay received an adequate budget and it was squandered?
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There has to have been at least a little squandering. That video of the Avengers coaster looks like something Six Flags would have done 15 years ago as a "Themed Coaster!".
 
lazyboy97o

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Ne'er-Do-Well Cad said:
I guess I need to do some reading about this. I've heard rumors about Imagineering's "inefficiencies" for a long time but have never really looked into it. I understand the research trips may be extravagant and in some cases unnecessary, but Ritz-Carlton stays alone don't seem to explain the gulf in spending between Universal Creative and Imagineering.

Does the blame fall solely on Imagineering, then? If we look at this terrible Avengers coaster in Paris, should we assume the overlay received an adequate budget and it was squandered?
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The cost of research trips is exaggerated, largely harped on by people who are clueless but see something public that they don’t understand and can easily dismiss.

The gulf in spending between Walt Disney Imagineering and Universal Creative has shrunk dramatically. Shanghai DisneyResort and Universal Beijing Resort both came in at over $6 billion dollars and the Universal Orlando Resort South Campus (Epic Universe) is costing a bit more than those projects. The days of opening Transformers: The Ride – 3D a mere 13 months after deciding to build it are gone.

The issue is largely the same for any large organization. Decision making and coordination. Too many meetings, too many stakeholders, too much micromanagement.
 
CaptinEO

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lazyboy97o said:
The cost of research trips is exaggerated, largely harped on by people who are clueless but see something public that they don’t understand and can easily dismiss.

The gulf in spending between Walt Disney Imagineering and Universal Creative has shrunk dramatically. Shanghai DisneyResort and Universal Beijing Resort both came in at over $6 billion dollars and the Universal Orlando Resort South Campus (Epic Universe) is costing a bit more than those projects. The days of opening Transformers: The Ride – 3D a mere 13 months after deciding to build it are gone.

The issue is largely the same for any large organization. Decision making and coordination. Too many meetings, too many stakeholders, too much micromanagement.
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Meanwhile Disney is taking 5 years to build a rollercoaster (Guardians and Tron) while sixflags puts them up in 6 months.
 
TwilightZone

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lazyboy97o said:
Six Flags drops coasters into barren lots, so not exactly a 1:1 comparison.
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For a more 1 - 1 comparison here's VelociCoaster vs. Shanghai Disney's tron vs. USA tron according to wikipedia

VelociCoaster's construction walls were erected in January 2019 with the ride officially opening on June 10th 2021
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Here's also the soft opening to be fair
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Shanghai DL began construction on the castle on January 29th 2013 and the park (with Tron) opened on June 16th 2016
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Tron USA began construction December 7 2018, with construction still going on as of this comment, that's 3 more months than Shanghai took to complete!
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PiratesMansion

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Fun with Disney Dining: So last night while waiting for 2nd WOC, my friend and I decided we wanted to cancel our dining reservations for today (Plaza Parade and Blue Bayou), and I discovered that I had also accidentally made a duplicate dining reservation for Carnation, which we had eaten at a few days ago.

Well, we wanted to cancel them for today, and it was "too close to the time of reservation" to cancel on the app.

Ok, fine. So I go to DLR'S website. There are numbers listed for all sorts of things but not dining. So I try a generic looking number and they're closed.

So WOC ends and I go to City Hall. CM is able to get in contact with Plaza Inn to cancel that one but other restaurants are closed. She says she can't do anything if she can't reach the restaurant, no overrides, no supervisors to call. At least she gives me DLR'S dining number.

So I've tried calling DLR's dining number today multiple times. Each time, even now that the park is open, a recorded message plays saying that at this time, they can't take calls and to please use the app or website to deal with dining before it hangs up.

So now I am on my way to Disneyland to hope that whoever is working at Carnation this morning allows me to cancel that duplicate reservation. I'll probably just suck it up and eat at BB as reserved just to save myself another hassle. This is so annoying.
 

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