The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[mickEblu]

Now that I have a baby, i can appreciate chase-a-baby as a very impressive piece of Disney imagineering history

Lol no there’s just not enough poo on the ride.

 

[Phroobar]

Lol no there’s just not enough poo on the ride.

The whole land is pooh.

 

[mickEblu]

How expensive is it per night, and what size room? I would just need a 1 queen bed room and am curious if you have an estimate in your head but I could look it up if not. Glad you had an awesome experience, last time I stayed at the Park Vue Inn which was cheap and nothing crazy, not amazing but not gross / bad service.

I think this gripe doesn't specifically relate to the fact lands are single IP, though I hate that as well. If Disney tried to make a land today that was based on a theme / concept and not an IP I still believe we would have the same experience, 1 or 2 thing worth doing then everything else is a dud or is a huge upsell. I haven't been to GE at Disneyland but my gf went and said they rode MF:SR and didn't get a boarding group for RotR so they rode MF:SR which was meh to her and then they got food at Docking Bay 7 and got Blue Milk and that was it. I think she might have browsed Dok Ondar's a little but didn't buy anything, and by the time they were done she and her family all left except her cousin and aunt who went to build a lightsaber because her cousin is a big SW fan. When she and I go later this year hopefully even with riding RotR I will still try MF:SR even though I heard it's subpar and I will browse the stores because I'm a huge SW fan but I don't think I will buy much, if I want a lightsaber I will buy one from Saberforge or somewhere online with better quality for the price.

Heck even Avenger's Campus is one TSMM type ride and then food / merch, unless you love meeting characters which she and I don't care for even though I really enjoy Marvel stuff for the most part. Maybe if Spider-Man walks around I'd try to get a picture if it isn't a huge line but aside from that I don't care, if the stunamatronic Spidey show is going I will watch just to enjoy the impressive engineering but the other character shows on the building I've seen videos of don't look that compelling and are awkward to view from below blocked by the wall of the walkways. Pandora I went in 2018 and rode FoP then NRJ and that was it, walked around a tiny bit to marvel at the beautiful scenery / audio that was very immersive but I didn't buy any merch as I am not an Avatar fan as most people aside from Jenny Nicholson are not. I left and went to ride the safari ride and Everest.

But also I don't know how I personally feel about Disney trying to add another land. I feel like Tomorrow, Fantasy, Adventure, and Frontier are all good themes to fit a wide range of rides in. The problem is any new ride is tied to IP so it has to be shoved into one of those broad themes or Disney wants to build entire lands around it. I don't know what concept land Disney would add on top of the originals, does anyone have any armchair Imagineering ideas? I wish we got original non-IP rides and experiences but it is incredibly clear Disney wants to use all the IPs they spent billions on that are tried and true to be popular and not risk an original idea that they fear would flop since people don't know what it is.

We had a standard two queen bed room with a park view. From what I’ve seen, they range anywhere from $350 to $550 per night depending on the day. The non view rooms seem to go for about $150-$200 cheaper. Not exactly cheap but good competition for Disney as it’s steps away from the Paradise Pier hotel which charges similar rates for better service and brand new modern shiny hotel. The grounds kind of feel like the Wynn on a much smaller scale

 

[PiratesMansion]

Well I really can’t take his “debate” any further as I have not Been on Journey but I will say that it’s interesting that you’ve more or less chosen it as the exclusive attraction that is better than RSR as it is the only one I had in my mind that really competed for the title. I believe if we went with a popular vote of people who have ridden all the exclusives RSR would win but then again if one has been on all the exclusive Disney attractions around the world they re most likely a Disney park super fan that would most likely go with something more obscure over a Pixar themed attraction of a franchise that’s been milked to death.

Journey is not necessarily the only one, but it certainly makes the most direct comparison with RSR since they also share a ride system.

I would probably value all the ones I named over RSR.

To be honest, I don't know that I've EVER seen RSR ranked as the best-in-the-world by anyone. Not saying it's never happened anywhere ever, but I genuinely don't recall it. I would probably agree that being tied to one of the more hated Disney IPs likely hurts RSR in the grand scheme of things, as does its comparative lack of novelty, since Test Track and Journey both came more than a decade before. I'm certainly biased against IP attractions vs. original concepts, and I'd wager most of the people who have visited all the parks are also. It's more exciting to do things you haven't done before and it's generally easier to be novel if there's no IP attached IMO.

That said, I stand by my general assertion that RSR is missing that extra 1-2% that takes the others over the top for me.

 

[mickEblu]

Journey is not necessarily the only one, but it certainly makes the most direct comparison with RSR since they also share a ride system.

I would probably value all the ones I named over RSR.

To be honest, I don't know that I've EVER seen RSR ranked as the best-in-the-world by anyone. Not saying it's never happened anywhere ever, but I genuinely don't recall it. I would probably agree that being tied to one of the more hated Disney IPs likely hurts RSR in the grand scheme of things, as does its comparative lack of novelty, since Test Track and Journey both came more than a decade before. I'm certainly biased against IP attractions vs. original concepts, and I'd wager most of the people who have visited all the parks are also. It's more exciting to do things you haven't done before and it's generally easier to be novel if there's no IP attached IMO.

That said, I stand by my general assertion that RSR is missing that extra 1-2% that takes the others over the top for me.

I’m guessing you miswrote but I never claimed RSR is the best attraction in the world. I said it would probably voted as the best amongst world exclusives but then explained why that might not necessarily be the case either due to a rather small and specific demo of people who would likely vote against RSR for the reasons I explained.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I’m guessing you miswrote but I never claimed RSR is the best attraction in the world. I said it would probably voted as the best amongst world exclusives but then explained why that might not necessarily be the case either due to a rather small and specific demo of people who would likely vote against RSR for the reasons I explained.

Some of the other exclusives have/would be considered in a discussion of the world’s best attractions.

 

[No Name]

I would probably agree that being tied to one of the more hated Disney IPs likely hurts RSR in the grand scheme of things, as does its comparative lack of novelty, since Test Track and Journey both came more than a decade before.

I think Cars is anything but hated. People like Cars.

I liked the original Test Track and how it was kind of edgy, the current one is just soulless and nonsensical and really gives fuel to the people who think everything is better with movie characters and who think DCA’s problem was it didn’t have enough movie characters. RSR is no doubt a much better ride but not necessarily because it has Cars.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

They're smaller and less ambitious, and Paris and HK came first.

WDW should have been much better than it turned out.

Eh I’d say it’s better than those with its only flat rides causing bad sight lines around the parks.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

I think Cars is anything but hated. People like Cars.

I liked the original Test Track and how it was kind of edgy, the current one is just soulless and nonsensical and really gives fuel to the people who think everything is better with movie characters and who think DCA’s problem was it didn’t have enough movie characters. RSR is no doubt a much better ride but not necessarily because it has Cars.

Current test track fits the park better and attempts to be more educational

 

[waltography]

Proud to say I exercised my civic duty, and I encourage you all to do the same.



On a related note, I tried the lemon bar churro by GRR the last time I was there and it was surprisingly very good. The lemon curd was delicious.

 

[DrAlice]

Just curious: Is it still possible to buy a Churro-flavored Churro?

 

[Disney Irish]

Just curious: Is it still possible to buy a Churro-flavored Churro?

There is a $20 surcharge for that "special" flavor.

 

[CaptinEO]

I remember in the late 90s they sold dipping sauces for the churros for an extra quarter.

 

[No Name]

Current test track fits the park better and attempts to be more educational

I heavily disagree on the latter, and regardless, I’m not sure either outweigh it being a shell of its former self.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

I heavily disagree on the latter, and regardless, I’m not sure either outweigh it being a shell of its former self.

I don’t, I thought by 2009 TT 1.0 was showing it’s age with its 90s cars in the preshow and om ride. The aesthetics were that of a highway or parking garage. The new one attempts to be futuristic in some way and give guests reign of designing vehicles

 

[No Name]

I don’t, I thought by 2009 TT 1.0 was showing it’s age with its 90s cars in the preshow and om ride. The aesthetics were that of a highway or parking garage. The new one attempts to be futuristic in some way and give guests reign of designing vehicles

Well then that means we disagree, so this is the last I’ll say on it here since I can’t imagine most people in this conversation care. The old story worked really well with the “sixth test” crash scene shown in the pre show followed by the same scene in the ride, the current one just rips the story out for a vaguely nonsensical simulation thing that’s only futuristic in appearance (and talk about showing it’s age!) and that’s mostly just a branding exercise. The vehicle design thing feels as equally contrived as the rest of the ride but I do like it’s use of magicbands.

 

[waltography]

Just curious: Is it still possible to buy a Churro-flavored Churro?

There is a $20 surcharge for that "special" flavor.

It's part of their new Individual Lightning Lane a la carte service. Have to schedule it 8 hours in advance before you can pick it up too.

 

[DrAlice]

It's part of their new Individual Lightning Lane a la carte service. Have to schedule it 8 hours in advance before you can pick it up too.

I want to laugh at this, but it is too true.....

 

[Dear Prudence]

I keep thinking back on all of those specials on the Disney channel back in the day where they showed us how they fixed and dusted and kept on top of taking care of all of the attractions in the park--every night when we went home, a whole team came out in full force. I don't even have a clever way to wrap this up, because it's just sad *gestures broadly*

 

[Model3 McQueen]

Proud to say I exercised my civic duty, and I encourage you all to do the same.



On a related note, I tried the lemon bar churro by GRR the last time I was there and it was surprisingly very good. The lemon curd was delicious.

I implore all of you here to spend 10 minutes in any busy bathroom, and count how many times you hear strangers excrete bodily liquids out their rear end / mouth.

Then think hard about if you want to get that next blue milk or churro-flavored sugar stick lol.