The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

[Dear Prudence]

Just to add to my comments above, I don't look like an adult. I am turning 35 years old in August, and I still get mistaken for a teenager. I literally wear kids clothes and shoes, and I am barely 5ft tall. So the young men who were sitting in front of me on Splash who were SCREAMING obscenities and flipping off the characters were doing so in front of someone who looked very, very young. I don't know how old those boys were, because of how utterly stupid they were behaving, I can only assume. I didn't even feel comfortable saying anything to them because it was just myself and them in the boat, and male yelling tends to make me nervous.

What really made me upset was the cast members did not care, and suggested I could get back in line and ride it again. Like I know y'all monitor the duration of the attraction in that booth, you could hear and see them, maybe STOP THEM? GET THEIR PARENTS?! Someone in the booth on Haunted Mansion can page in and tell people to stop using their flash, they can very well have stopped THAT.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Yup, there was a guy I caught a photo of wearing a shirt that says "this is our Fking country" going through security ahead of me…

Eeeewwwww. Yikes.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Eeeewwwww. Yikes.

I saw a Sureño at the park a couple of days before, and I am 1000000% more terrified of the dude in the shirt. The Sureño was wearing Mickey ears.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I saw a Sureño at the park a couple of days before, and I am 1000000% more terrified of the dude in the shirt. The Sureño was wearing Mickey ears.

Anyone sporting similar ‘Murica gear is a red flag for me. No, thank you.

 

[SaucyBoy]

I thought Disney was SO strict about this stuff, but I guess because they need the money, they're not going to turn people away or kick them out. It's very disappointing.

When I was a coordinator at Epcot, the amount of guest behavior I was forced to ignore by my "leaders" was astonishing. I once had to deal with a drunk bride who was berating a CM for cutting her off in Canada. She'd made it all the way around World Showcase plastered, with CMs serving left and right. This CM was following proper protocol and cut her off. She wanted to escalate the situation so I had to get a leader involved. After calming her down, the manager proceeds to serve her anyway

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I saw a Sureño at the park a couple of days before, and I am 1000000% more terrified of the dude in the shirt. The Sureño was wearing Mickey ears.

Anyone sporting similar ‘Murica gear is a red flag for me. No, thank you.

Sans the expletive, what is it about the Murica gear that draws your displeasure?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Sans the expletive, what is it about the Murica gear that draws your displeasure?

It’s the weird and unreasonable (and sometimes dangerous) nationalism. Some of it is very distasteful and yes, it sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable, especially as a person of color.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

It’s the weird and unreasonable (and sometimes dangerous) nationalism. Some of it is very distasteful and yes, it sometimes makes me feel uncomfortable, especially as a person of color.

I'm on mobile so this will be shorter than I'd like.

I respect the way you feel. I must admit I feel like anyone, no matter who, has a right to be proud of where they are from, and I am sad that there is an automatic assumption wearing US representation is considered distasteful or bad, especially to someone of your background. I wouldn't want anyone to feel that way in today's day and age.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I'm on mobile so this will be shorter than I'd like.

I respect the way you feel. I must admit I feel like anyone, no matter who, has a right to be proud of where they are from, and I am sad that there is an automatic assumption wearing US representation is considered distasteful or bad, especially to someone of your background. I wouldn't want anyone to feel that way in today's day and age.

I agree that people should have the right to feel proud about where they come from. I’m not a proud American, but I’m a proud Californian and Angeleno.

It’s not just any US representation. It’s the type that @Dear Prudence witnessed specifically that I personally really don’t like. It’s one thing to wear a shirt with the American flag on it, and then there’s wearing a shirt that says stuff like “this is our freaking country” or “patriot.” It’s the same rhetoric that was spewed by many of the insurrectionists last year. Of course, not everyone who wears stuff like that is bigoted, but given that I’ve been told by multiple people with similar mindsets to return to Africa “where I came from,” I’m not very keen on being around such folks and would prefer to keep my distance. I have no problem telling someone off, but I’d prefer to not be in a situation where I feel the need to pop off.

 

[mickEblu]

I agree that people should have the right to feel proud about where they come from. I’m not a proud American, but I’m a proud Californian and Angeleno.

It’s not just any US representation. It’s the type that @Dear Prudence witnessed specifically that I personally really don’t like. It’s one thing to wear a shirt with the American flag on it, and then there’s wearing a shirt that says stuff like “this is our freaking country” or “patriot.” It’s the same rhetoric that was spewed by many of the insurrectionists last year. Of course, not everyone who wears stuff like that is bigoted, but given that I’ve been told by multiple people with similar mindsets to return to Africa “where I came from,” I’m not very keen on being around such folks and would prefer to keep my distance. I have no problem telling someone off, but I’d prefer to not be in a situation where I feel the need to pop off.

I don’t see how you can be a proud Californian and Angeleno but not a proud American. This country and the way it operates made the city/ state that you are proud of possible.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I don’t see how you can be a proud Californian and Angeleno but not a proud American. This country and the way it operates made the city/ state that you are proud of possible.

Lots of people are more loyal to their state than to the country as a whole. It happens. I don’t care for America as a whole, but I love the tiny piece of it where I come from. I can and do separate the two.

 

[SaucyBoy]

I don’t see how you can be a proud Californian and Angeleno but not a proud American. This country and the way it operates made the city/ state that you are proud of possible.

It's simple, really. Personally, I'm not ashamed to be an American (I am so blessed and thankful to live here) but that's doesn't mean I am necessarily I'm proud of the country we are in 2022. There are a lot of flaws and issues that need to be addressed. I could never hate America, and I question the sanity of someone who does, but we aren't perfect and I think it's okay acknowledging that.

However, the type of patriotism the previous posters are referencing is certainly toxic and off putting. I live in the rural American South, so I see first hand the type of culture it creates. They really and truly only want to celebrate their version of America; one that is white, straight, and religious. That's not the America I love or care to celebrate. There is a fine line between loving your country and espousing toxic ideals about said country.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

However, the type of patriotism the previous posters are referencing is certainly toxic and off putting. I live in the rural American South, so I see first hand the type of culture it creates. They really and truly only want to celebrate their version of America; one that is white, straight, and religious.

That's an assumption, with all due respect. It goes both ways which is why I think stereotypes are absolute toxicity.

There are lots of people who are like that, and they are a problem, but I hate that it's automatically associated with patriotism.

 

[D.Silentu]

I must admit I feel like anyone, no matter who, has a right to be proud of where they are from, and I am sad that there is an automatic assumption wearing US representation is considered distasteful or bad

If I may, I tend to agree with you but it's fair to acknowledge that a shirt reading "this is our Fing country" defensively implies that someone in reading distance is an outsider or un-American. I'd imagine that most people would find that sentiment flawed and alarming.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

If I may, I tend to agree with you but it's fair to acknowledge that a shirt reading "this is our Fing country" defensively implies that someone in reading distance is an outsider or un-American. I'd like to imagine that most people would find that sentiment flawed and alarming.

Oh absolutely, I agree with you. My post was meant to reflect on US or patriotism gear as a whole, as that's how i read the original posts. Sorry if it didn't come off that way.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I agree that people should have the right to feel proud about where they come from. I’m not a proud American, but I’m a proud Californian and Angeleno.

It’s not just any US representation. It’s the type that @Dear Prudence witnessed specifically that I personally really don’t like. It’s one thing to wear a shirt with the American flag on it, and then there’s wearing a shirt that says stuff like “this is our freaking country” or “patriot.” It’s the same rhetoric that was spewed by many of the insurrectionists last year. Of course, not everyone who wears stuff like that is bigoted, but given that I’ve been told by multiple people with similar mindsets to return to Africa “where I came from,” I’m not very keen on being around such folks and would prefer to keep my distance. I have no problem telling someone off, but I’d prefer to not be in a situation where I feel the need to pop off.

Sorry if I misread, I thought you and @Dear Prudence meant US gear as a whole. I wholeheartedly agree someone with a shirt like the specific one referenced is most likely coming from a bad place.

However, there is a chance they meant something different. And If so I'd just love to hear their explanation for why they thought that specifically was appropropriate

 

[Californian Elitist]

Sorry if I misread, I thought you and @Dear Prudence meant US gear as a whole. I wholeheartedly agree someone with a shirt like the specific one referenced is most likely coming from a bad place.

However, there is a chance they meant something different. And If so I'd just love to hear their explanation for why they thought that specifically was appropropriate

Well, honestly, I don’t care for any kind of American patriotism clothing or American patriotism in general. I won’t ever be caught with an American flag hanging from my home or on my clothes, and I usually don’t stand for the National Anthem. But I respect those who do want to do those things.

The only time I’m even remotely patriotic is during the Olympics.

 

[SaucyBoy]

That's an assumption, with all due respect. It goes both ways which is why I think stereotypes are absolute toxicity.

There are lots of people who are like that, and they are a problem, but I hate that it's automatically associated with patriotism.

I fear we are going to feel the wrath of the mods by veering into this territory But, my friend, it's not an assumption. I have lived in the rural south my entire life. These people are (former) friends, (former) family,& (sadly) coworkers. This is how they feel, I've seen it first hand. I've experienced it, especially being (gasp!) a gay man. Is everyone in the South this way, heck no. Otherwise I wouldn't be living here still, but to write it off as a baseless assumption is disingenuous.

 

[mickEblu]

Any chance Indy gets a proper refurb with updated effects after MMRR opens?

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I fear we are going to feel the wrath of the mods by veering into this territory But, my friend, it's not an assumption. I have lived in the rural south my entire life. These people are (former) friends, (former) family,& (sadly) coworkers. This is how they feel, I've seen it first hand. I've experienced it, especially being (gasp!) a gay man. Is everyone in the South this way, heck no. Otherwise I wouldn't be living here still, but to write it off as a baseless assumption is disingenuous.

LOL you're probably right, I'll stop after this Sorry just to clarify, assumption mayve not been the right word, but stereotype maybe?

Anyway, I wish people were more accepting. We've come to a point in our culture where it's a them vs us attitude and people are just plain salty.