The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

CaptinEO

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Some folks were talking about Award Wieners recently, and I just want to say that I’m impressed that it’s still standing. It’s one of the few early DCA establishments that’s survived, which in itself is really neat to me, since the park is most unrecognizable from its early form of itself.
Will they make Will Smith return his hot dog?
 

TP2000

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Oh, Chris Rock and The Rock. I see what you did there.

Sigh. Could I be any slower?

I'm rarely that clever with pop culture, so everyone here gets a pass. 🤣

I must say, I've been consistently impressed with how Chris Rock has handled this whole thing; from the time the slap landed on stage, through that night's after-party scene and then the Day After, to today where he just did his first comedy show since the Oscars in Boston. He's not saying a word, refusing to get down in the muck and play victim (that's a role Mrs. Smith is apparently getting ready to play instead), and has simply said "I will talk about this whole thing after some more time has passed". Wow! Good job, Chris Rock!

I was also happy to hear ticket prices for his comedy shows have gone through the roof and they're all sold out now. :)

 
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Practical Pig

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While we would like to clarify that Mr. Smith was asked to leave the ceremony and refused ...

Apparently(?) he wasn't asked to leave directly but rather through his team, for fear, justified or not, of triggering another incident.

In a move to avoid another blow-up, the request was not made to Smith directly but through the actor’s reps, it seems.

It's a buried statement in this Deadline article that hedges with "it seems", so who knows?

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TP2000

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I have a question for Hollywood: Why do you invite comedians that make horrible jokes at your expense to your most important awards ceremony? Comedians to lighten the mood, sure. Comedians that are known for over-the-top mean-spirited jabs??? I don't get it. I have never found that stuff funny, and I don't understand why it has always been a presence at the award shows. That's probably why I don't watch and just google the results the next morning. 🤷‍♀️

It's a great question. I forget where I read it in all the analysis over the last 72 hours, but I guess it's part of Hollywood allowing themselves to be poked fun of to make them more relatable to Mr. and Mrs. America.

These are all some of the wealthiest, and definitely the most privileged people in America, and thus the world. They are fawned after, coddled, babied and obsessed over most of the year. They just arrived at the most lavish party Hollywood throws, and as one example the megabucks couture gown that Jada Smith was wearing that night probably cost more than most American's new cars and could fund years of college for an Iowa plumber's daughter or trade school for his son.


Will and Jada Smith are the epitome of that wealth, extreme privilege, and fawning adoration. Part of the deal is they get poked fun of at awards shows and TV talk show monologues.

It's a decades old tradition. Dating back to Lenny Bruce and Don Rickles, and on through Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts, Andrew Dice Clay, Lewis CK, and now the likes of Kathy Griffin, Dave Chappelle, and Chris Rock.

It's why the Academy specifically invited Chris Rock to host the segment with the biggest awards towards the end of the night. Hollywood's brightest stars know it's part of the gig.
 
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Phroobar

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It's a great question. I forget where I read it in all the analysis over the last 72 hours, but I guess it's part of Hollywood allowing themselves to be poked fun of to make them more relatable to Mr. and Mrs. America.

These are all some of the wealthiest, and definitely the most privileged people in America, and thus the world. They are fawned after, coddled, babied and obsessed over most of the year. They just arrived at the most lavish party Hollywood throws, and as one example the megabucks couture gown that Jada Smith was wearing that night probably cost more than most American's new cars and could fund years of college for an Iowa plumber's daughter or trade school for his son.


Will and Jada Smith are the epitome of that wealth, extreme privilege, and fawning adoration. Part of the deal is they get poked fun of at awards shows and TV talk show monologues.

It's a decades old tradition. Dating back to Lenny Bruce and Don Rickles, and on through Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts, Andrew Dice Clay, Lewis CK, and now the likes of Kathy Griffin, Dave Chappelle, and Chris Rock.

It's why the Academy specifically invited Chris Rock to host the segment with the biggest awards towards the end of the night. Hollywood's brightest stars know it's part of the gig.
She doesn't own the dress. The designers always have celebrities wear their dresses to events to show off their designs. The designers then get the coverage from the likes of Bazaar and other fashion magazines. She might as well be covered in corporate logos.

Besides, I think the whole thing was fake. What man slaps another man? Chris Rock's script was approved by the academy and on the teleprompter. Controversy drives news. There is no bad news in the entertainment industry unless your movie tanks and Will Smith's movies have been tanking for a while.
 

waltography

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Some folks were talking about Award Wieners recently, and I just want to say that I’m impressed that it’s still standing. It’s one of the few early DCA establishments that’s survived, which in itself is really neat to me, since the park is most unrecognizable from its early form of itself.
Hollywoodland is for me the land that hasn't grown into its own since DCA 2.0. They did the bare minimum to bring it forward and it's a shame given all that wasted space.
 

Phroobar

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Maybe we can get a Will Smith slapping ride in Hollywoodland at DCA?

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Californian Elitist

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Hollywoodland is for me the land that hasn't grown into its own since DCA 2.0. They did the bare minimum to bring it forward and it's a shame given all that wasted space.
It’s the one piece of the original DCA that really hasn’t been touched and wasn’t included in the park’s remake, for whatever reason. For this reason, it’s the weakest area of the park, by far. Sad, because there’s a lot of potential there with the theme of the land, but Disney doesn’t seem to care.
 

mickEblu

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The weirdest thing about Hollywoodland, specifically Hollywood Blvd, is that it seems to resonate with casual guests/ fam I go to the park with from time to time. Now I’m sure if they were to be handed a survey it would still be ranked as one of their least favorite lands in the park due to its weak attraction roster but the boulevard leading up to the fake sky facade seems to do it for people I go to the park with. I’ve heard a few, “that’s cool” or “I like that’s” and it always sticks with me because of its reputation with hardcore fans.

If I had to guess part of it is simply because it’s reminiscent of a poor man’s Main Street and folks just like that concept. Also it’s usually pleasant to walk down that street as it’s rarely packed with people.
 

socalifornian

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>>In a preview clip of Packer’s upcoming interview on “Good Morning America” with T.J. Holmes, he revealed that the Los Angeles Police Department was on the scene Sunday night and ready to arrest Smith if Rock wanted to press charges.

“They were saying, you know, this is battery, was a word they used in that moment. They said we will go get him. We are prepared. We’re prepared to get him right now. You can press charges,” Packer said. “They were laying out the options. And as they were talking, Chris was — he was being very dismissive of those options. He was like, ‘No, no, no, I’m fine.’ And even to the point where I said, ‘Rock, let them finish.’ The LAPD officers finished laying out what his options were and they said, ‘Would you like us to take any action?’ And he said no. He said no.”

 

TP2000

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>>In a preview clip of Packer’s upcoming interview on “Good Morning America” with T.J. Holmes, he revealed that the Los Angeles Police Department was on the scene Sunday night and ready to arrest Smith if Rock wanted to press charges.

“They were saying, you know, this is battery, was a word they used in that moment. They said we will go get him. We are prepared. We’re prepared to get him right now. You can press charges,” Packer said. “They were laying out the options. And as they were talking, Chris was — he was being very dismissive of those options. He was like, ‘No, no, no, I’m fine.’ And even to the point where I said, ‘Rock, let them finish.’ The LAPD officers finished laying out what his options were and they said, ‘Would you like us to take any action?’ And he said no. He said no.”


Fascinating! Good for Mr. Packer for addressing the behind-the-scenes questions many of us have.

I continue to be impressed with how Chris Rock has taken the high road here. He deserves all the accolades and positive reactions he is receiving from this incident Will Smith created for himself and others.
Bravo, Chris Rock! 👍
 

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