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The Miscellaneous Thought Thread
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SuddenStorm
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It feels like a knock off Indiana Jones or something. I'm 20 minutes in, but I'm only half watching it.
Knock off Mummy meets knock off POTC I think is what I thought.
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Seriously though why are virtually all of their live action films terrible? Most of the recent animated Disney or Pixar Films are relatively good. My guess is because most of the live Action Disney films are just low hanging fruit and they re at the bottom of the totem pole under Marvel, Star Wars, And the animated Disney/ Pixar stuff.
Disney live action has two tracks:
- Recycle established IP through reboots, sequels, and live action version of animations (Cruella, Jungle Book, PotC, Jungle Cruise, etc...)
- Get someone to write and direct a popular children's or young adult novel and hope you hit Potter gold (BFG, A Wrinkle in Time, Artemis Fowl, etc...)
The second keeps bombing. Both at the B.O. and with critics and audience ratings. Thankfully, Alan Horn is gone, so, we hope this stops. And for now, these types of films are being sent to Disney+ (Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Star Girl, Flora & Ulysses.) These films need the tight quality control that Pixar and DAS now have, rather than hiring some director to do their own thing.
Right and I guess it’s that simple. They make money because they are established IP so they don’t have to be good. So it creates a vicious cycle of garbage. I also think that a remake of an animated classic is inherently at disadvantage when it comes to the creative process
Mac Tonight
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Maybe I'm the outlier here, but I didn't mind Jungle Cruise all that much. I like Indiana Jones, Pirates, and The Mummy (Brendan Fraser version), so to have a movie that is very much in the vein of all three, what's not to like? I honestly don't think Disney feels they have to break new cinematic ground with their attraction-turned-film catalog.
It is low-hanging fruit sure, but hey, sometimes that fruit is good for what it is, and you don't have to reach that high up!
It is low-hanging fruit sure, but hey, sometimes that fruit is good for what it is, and you don't have to reach that high up!
Funny thing is that, for the most part, the franchise movies get much, much better critical and audience reviews than the new YA book adaptations. E.g. Cruella and Jungle Book were really good movies in and of themselves. But BFG and Nutcracker and the other "non-IP" movies, not so much.
waltography
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I didn't really like Encanto which was disappointing, but I did think Casita/the setting was the star of the movie for sure. Got me back to thinking about the Pixar Pier Coco dark ride concept that had been thrown around on these boards a while ago—I know it's not Pixar, but I feel like Encanto would make for a great Mystic Manor-style attraction. Doubt there's space there, but ah well.
I liked Jungle Cruise too! It was a fun diversion that had a tangential relationship to the ride it was inspired by. A good old-fashioned blockbuster.
CaptinEO
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I wasn't aware of this. Great news. Their live action films are corny at best and audience insultingly dumb most the time.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Well so ends 2021, Betty White died.
I don’t know if I wanna live in a world with no Betty White….
I don’t know if I wanna live in a world with no Betty White….
What if Joe Rohde parted ways with Disney because he refused to support the idea of cloning the Zootopia E-ticket (Shanghai) for Disney's Animal Kingdom?
CaptinEO
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I don't think Disney wants an imagineer with pull these days. They don't like their imagineers to have a voice unless it says "yes".
No Name
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They certainly weren’t looking to build anything new in the park when he left, so I feel like it was definitely that they offered him a good amount of money to leave. I do wonder how that situation would’ve ended though.
Disney Irish
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If you're talking about the one about the Hall of Presidents, I think the interviews that weren't from the archives were filmed mostly in late 2019 and early 2020.
As for Mr Lincoln, I would honestly be surprised if it was axed at this point, at least not wholly. I could see them modify it in the future into a smaller version of Hall of Presidents but not get rid of it completely.
But on a long enough time line everything will be axed or replaced, so it depends on the "when" we're talking about.
SuddenStorm
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It's just amazing to me that Carmen Smith was a complete unknown outside of the company, and then in 2020 becomes the public face for every change happening inside Disneyland.
Like, did any Disney fan know who she was until the Splash announcement?
I hear you. Definitely was rolling my eyes when I made that last post. Perhaps I’m not aware of her history at the company but she definitely doesn’t come across as genuine or knowledgeable about the park history as the other people being interviewed. Maybe I just can’t give her a fair shake because she appeared out of nowhere to destroy my favorite ride and she’s the face of all these cancel culture changes?