The Miscellaneous Thought Thread

Okee68

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My apparent ranking of Disney's pre-Renaissance animated features, from sorta.app
It's pretty accurate, but I don't think I would call Pinocchio my favorite of all time, and I'm pretty sure I like Ichabod and Mr. Toad more than Robin Hood.
 

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disneyC97

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One negligible bit of Disneyland history that nobody ever brings up is how all of the old tournament tent facades of the original Fantasyland were made to look less tacky in 1977 or so, when they were repainted with less-garish color schemes and a trend toward realistic heraldic symbols replacing the original geometric patterns everyone is familiar with. I just wish they had done this like fifteen years earlier, because there aren't nearly enough photos of this frankly much prettier version of the original Fantasyland.
The carousel tent is a less elaborate version of the original 1971 Florida one. It always looks odd to me in pics from Disneyland.
 

Californian Elitist

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The Sword in the Stone is also a personal favorite of mine. I love animation and the jokes. I stated months ago, Sugar Bowl is an underrated character and easily one of the best in the film. The best part is when he pops Arthur on the knuckles with his spoon for attempting to touch him.

Might watch the movie this weekend.
 

DrAlice

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My daughter really enjoys Sword in the Stone. As a kid, I did also. Watching it as an adult, I'm not as impressed. Yes, there are some fun moments and characters (+1 for the sugar bowl!), but it has the feel of a TV show. The story has a weird arc that ends because it is time for the movie to be over, not because it reached a satisfying conclusion. Perhaps Disney should have produced it as a Saturday morning cartoon or something.
 

mickEblu

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My daughter really enjoys Sword in the Stone. As a kid, I did also. Watching it as an adult, I'm not as impressed. Yes, there are some fun moments and characters (+1 for the sugar bowl!), but it has the feel of a TV show. The story has a weird arc that ends because it is time for the movie to be over, not because it reached a satisfying conclusion. Perhaps Disney should have produced it as a Saturday morning cartoon or something.


I can relate. It was one of my absolute favorites as a kid but didn’t hold up for me as an adult. As a kid the little adventures Arthur went on as he transformed into different animals really resonated with me. As did the Mad Madame Mim and Merlin duel. Still has some great moments but now when it comes to Disney animated films, it’s in the middle of the pack for me.
 
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DrAlice

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The albatross around its neck is Rise Of The Resistance, which at the same time is its best feature. A strange dichotomy to say the least! Yet Rise is the anchor that really ties the land to the sequel trilogy. From my view, Star Wars is so fluid that the rest of Galaxy's Edge could take place at nearly any time. However, I'm sure a queue of fans is forming to point out how many ways I am incorrect on that point! I just mean to suggest that to abandon the sequel timeline, a few detail changes may be required, but the biggest alteration needed is an attitude adjustment that Rise is here to stay and that fact shouldn't prevent other Star Wars elements from finding their way to the land. Chronology didn't seem to be an issue for Star Tours. The force, of which there is surprisingly little reference at Galaxy's Edge, might be a useful crutch for introducing anachronistic elements. However it is justified, I agree that expanding the scope of the land will behoove it.
Disclaimer: DL closed before I had a chance to actually visit Galaxy's Edge.

Ugh.... I typed a big thing and then hit my trackpad with my thumb and deleted it all and can't get it back. Don't ya hate that! Anyhoo.... I think the timeline thing is silly. No one complains about large anthropomorphic animals ruining the timeline theming of town square, right? I wish they would just think about Galaxy's Edge's theme as SW universe and leave it at that. Leave the rides how they are. Have the street shows rotate: Darth Vader and Luke; Darth Maul and Obi Wan; something silly with C-3PO and R2D2 having a run-in with the storm troopers; light side vs. dark side battles (any era). Make Mando and Grogu walk-around characters. Yoda! I mean, this really shouldn't be that hard. It's DL, not an RPG, no matter how hard they try to make it one.
 

1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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I can relate. It was one of my absolute favorites as a kid but didn’t hold up for me as an adult. As a kid the little adventures Arthur went on as he transformed into different animals really resonated with me. As did the Mad Madame Mim and Merlin duel. Still has some great moments but now when it comes to Disney animated films, it’s in the middle of the pack for me.
Sword in the Stone is ok. I find Merlin annoying. but its not a horrible film by any means its just not on the top of my lists as something I would pick to watch on a regular basis.
 

mickEblu

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Sword in the Stone is ok. I find Merlin annoying. but its not a horrible film by any means its just not on the top of my lists as something I would pick to watch on a regular basis.

Ya although I don't watch any of them on a regular basis. I go many Years in between seeing some of the old classics. Nowadays I get to watch whatever the hot new film is 30 times in a row. Sad but I've seen some of the latest Pixar movies more times than Ive seen most, if not all the movies from the Golden Era
 

lazyboy97o

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Disclaimer: DL closed before I had a chance to actually visit Galaxy's Edge.

Ugh.... I typed a big thing and then hit my trackpad with my thumb and deleted it all and can't get it back. Don't ya hate that! Anyhoo.... I think the timeline thing is silly. No one complains about large anthropomorphic animals ruining the timeline theming of town square, right? I wish they would just think about Galaxy's Edge's theme as SW universe and leave it at that. Leave the rides how they are. Have the street shows rotate: Darth Vader and Luke; Darth Maul and Obi Wan; something silly with C-3PO and R2D2 having a run-in with the storm troopers; light side vs. dark side battles (any era). Make Mando and Grogu walk-around characters. Yoda! I mean, this really shouldn't be that hard. It's DL, not an RPG, no matter how hard they try to make it one.
Main Street, USA very much has a timeline, one that informed much of its design. You don’t think Cast Members wearing bell bottoms and leisure suits would stick out poorly? The legend behind the utilidors is Walt seeing a cowboy in Tomorrowland.
 

PiratesMansion

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My apparent ranking of Disney's pre-Renaissance animated features, from sorta.app
It's pretty accurate, but I don't think I would call Pinocchio my favorite of all time, and I'm pretty sure I like Ichabod and Mr. Toad more than Robin Hood.
I should perhaps redo mine, I'm kind of bummed there isn't one with all 58 Disney movies. I mean, I get it, but if I can't show my vague indifference towards Make Mine Music, WHAT'S EVEN THE POINT?!?!?
 

mickEblu

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A vlog showed up on my YouTube feed about fitting Tron into Disneyland’s TL. See screenshot below. They move the canopy around and put most of the show building in backstage TL. Would it be possible to do this at DL? All you “lose” (more like use) in this scenario is Launch Bay. The show building is also angled in a way to preserve the Grand Canyon diorama and Primeval World. Of course this would require the train to go through the Tron show building. I wonder if the canopy was oriented in this way if it would still feel too congested and out of place in Tomorrowland? They present a few other possibilities as well. Just wonder if they have the scale right?

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waltography

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A vlog showed up on my YouTube feed about fitting Tron into Disneyland’s TL. See screenshot below. They move the canopy around and put most of the show building in backstage TL. Would it be possible to do this at DL? All you “lose” (more like use) in this scenario is Launch Bay. The show building is also angled in a way to preserve the Grand Canyon diorama and Primeval World. Of course this would require the train to go through the Tron show building. I wonder if the canopy was oriented in this way if it would still feel too congested and out of place in Tomorrowland? They present a few other possibilities as well. Just wonder if they have the scale right?

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Not sure about the scale, but looking at the canopy alone it seems like it's oddly small.

Having it at the end of the main TL thoroughfare is odd; it wouldn't make a particularly attractive weenie, especially approaching at that angle. The only way it might work is if they finally tear down the old Peoplemover and open up the walkway so it can get a good plaza.

Also, as cool as TRON is (and as a massive fan of the aesthetic of TRON:Legacy), I'd rather they brought some of the tech into a refreshed SM rather than bringing TRON over here. Unless they use this as an opportunity to finally redo TL, in which case I'm all ears.
 

PiratesMansion

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The Tron ride is cool for a matter of seconds, then it goes outside and then it seems to just end prematurely. It's not a very good ride.
It works much better at night, but the ride in general is all shine and no substance.

It also FEELS much shorter and of less substantial ride length than either of the stateside Space Mountains, even though it's only shorter than the WDW version by around 20/30 feet.

That said, people will love it and will certainly be more satisfied with it than they will be with Ratatouille.
 

smooch

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I love California and so far have no interest in living in another state, but I’m trying to leave myself. I’m looking to leave this country overall though. I can’t imagine raising a family here in the States, at all (especially as a black person), and there’s a better quality of life elsewhere. I’m hoping I can leave within the next ten or so years.

I’ve never lived in any of those cities or states that you mentioned, so I have no advice for you. I only wish you and your family the best!
My mom is looking to move back to Czech eventually, my dad is supposed to be retiring within the next half of a decade or so and I am supposed to be taking over his clients when he does and a little after that is when they would consider moving. My mom's biological family (not the people who raised her) still live in the small village she lived in before leaving the country as a kid, and whenever they pass away she would almost certainly inherit their house there and if she does she would like to move in there. If not that then a family member who lives there has a second house they don't really live in and just visit from time to time for upkeep, so that's another option eventually. I understand why you would want to leave, I don't really blame you. Even on just the California side of things I understand, if my career plan wasn't to take my dad's clients when he retires I would leave the state and just work in another office somewhere in the country, maybe some time later in the future that can become a possibility. California is a very nice state, I like where I live and enjoy being close enough to drive to Lake Tahoe for a day / weekend, to San Francisco for a day trip, or down to Disneyland for a trip without having to fly, but the cost of living is crazy anywhere in the state. Not to mention the wildfires last year that covered my entire town in smoke for multiple weeks straight. Things are definitely changing for the state, it will be interesting to see how the government responds to this exodus occurring.
 

socalifornian

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A vlog showed up on my YouTube feed about fitting Tron into Disneyland’s TL. See screenshot below. They move the canopy around and put most of the show building in backstage TL. Would it be possible to do this at DL? All you “lose” (more like use) in this scenario is Launch Bay. The show building is also angled in a way to preserve the Grand Canyon diorama and Primeval World. Of course this would require the train to go through the Tron show building. I wonder if the canopy was oriented in this way if it would still feel too congested and out of place in Tomorrowland? They present a few other possibilities as well. Just wonder if they have the scale right?

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I’ve tried Tron here too a while back, this is what I came up with as far as scale goes. It would need to be reshaped and take over a lot of backstage area. It should really be a custom condensed, and improved, DL design like what we got with Space
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mickEblu

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I’ve tried Tron here too a while back, this is what I came up with as far as scale goes. It would need to be reshaped and take over a lot of backstage area. It should really be a custom condensed, and improved, DL design like what we got with SpaceView attachment 523111

Yeah I agree. The Troncket Rods would be ideal. I can’t make Out the location on the right side of the pic. Where is that ?

EDIT: NM thought it was another picture. Why do you have the canopy across the street?
 
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