SirLink
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You've missed one of the wildest threads in a long time.
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the MANY problems with Genie+ and paid FastPass (or whatever they are calling it)
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You've missed one of the wildest threads in a long time.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Martin knows!
Chapeks robbing + system isn’t something that attracts me to reading about it.
Thats my point exactly.......Makes less available for Genie+ options so demand is higher (especially in AK and Epcot) because there aren't as many choices, thus pushing back or selling out return times
you diagree?
Muffinpants
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We should all prolly take a breath and wait till they tell us how it all acually works before we rip eachother apart with ideas and thoughts that have only other things to base it off of. This isnt max pass we have no idea if it will work that way.
SirLink
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But Chapeks greed + system - might mean that it goes back to no front of line access for the majority. Which would be fantastic if we could get rid of FP/MaxPass/Genie+ et al.
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I agree.......
System stinks in general.........and they could have done it better while still making same money by not making people wake up early that dont want to or rope drop that dont want to
SirLink
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Ideally there shouldn't be any front of line access - no FP, no MaxPass, no Genie+. Just queue. Imagine that.
I am basing it off every reliable blogger ive read and almost all to a man/woman, are on agreement on how it will work
Martin, is there anything off base here?
they obviously based it off of MaxPass
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Those late return times weren't the product of total demand, they were a product of *concentrated* demand. Nothing is so much better/newer/fresher than anything else that it will be a disproportionate draw. If it's 10am, I'm not going to book a 1pm Slash if there's an 11am Pirates available.
Right and when you couple concentrated demand with total demand due to lack of options (like AK and Epcot), its not going to work
Naplesgolfer
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I think the biggest change is for local's, offsite guests and people you didn't plan or look into how fast pass worked before their trip . While on the one hand local's and offsite guests are now locked out of rope drop , Disney has mostly leveled the playing field for expedited access to rides. Onsite gets early preference to pay for one of 6 rides and rope drop. If you live near WDW and your habit is arrive at noon and stay till closing your probably happy with the new set up.
WDW can't escape the math of the ride capacity that is too low for the number of guests they have. Disney increases revenue and average guest rides per day will be the same.
WDW can't escape the math of the ride capacity that is too low for the number of guests they have. Disney increases revenue and average guest rides per day will be the same.
Rteetz
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I don’t think you do either
I’ve more info about this than I ever will need but I’m afraid I’ve no interest in it whatsoever. It’s actually helping soften the blow of this years trip being cancelled.
Explain it to me then
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Could be, and I absolutely acknowledge that this whole thing will work lot better in Magic Kingdom than elsewhere. If Disney sells a ton of these things to length-of-stay guests at the time of booking, that could cause problems at AK and Epcot. If length-of-stay purchases are less common, I think the most likely outcome is that many people simply won't buy this product for their AK/Epcot days.
I agree.......I think they will possible just do paid FP (or whatever they are calling it) for the top 2 rides and wait standby for the others.................
Think of AK......If you have guaranteed return times for Safari and FOP, you only need to wait for EE, Kali, NAvi and Dinosaur...
Those waits are never that bad, even on the real busy days
Which makes me believe they will jack up prices of paid FP (or whatever they are calling it) in AK and Epcot likely b sales of Genie+ will be lower in those parks
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Martin........Do you know the answer?
in 2019, MK had just under 21mm visitors, averaging just under 60k per day
How many of those 60k were there for Park opening on average each day?
Rteetz
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