The Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread

TheOriginalTiki

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I'm going to be BEYOND upset if Moana 2 gets into the Oscars. I'm sure The Wild Robot and Inside Out 2 are locks but if Moana gets in over any of Flow, Memoir of a Snail, Piece By Piece, or Mars Express it's going to be textbook highway robbery.
 

PerGron

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Based on reactions to it so far I guarantee I’m in the minority here but I genuinely loved Mufasa. There were certainly elements that didn’t work like Timon and Pumbaa were a bit too much and the songs definitely didn’t stick out all that much, but I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It definitely helps that the Lion King score will never fail to make me sob though
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Based on reactions to it so far I guarantee I’m in the minority here but I genuinely loved Mufasa. There were certainly elements that didn’t work like Timon and Pumbaa were a bit too much and the songs definitely didn’t stick out all that much, but I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It definitely helps that the Lion King score will never fail to make me sob though
I'm actually kind of excited for it if anything else because of Barry Jenkins. The original Lion King was the first movie I saw in theaters so I also have a very emotional attachment to the series in general, and the animation looks CONSIDERABLY better than JON's "it's gotta look just like a documentary! Animals in real life don't emote! There's no such thing as beautiful skies, I LIVE IN LOS ANGELES!!" approach.

Generally speaking though, holy cow this month has been ROUGH for wide releases. Kraven and War to Keep the Rights are both pieces of trash I have genuinely no interest in, Y2K is kind of another nail in the coffin of A24's "fall from grace" year, and some of the other stuff like Werewolves and Homestead are absolutely baffling to me that they're not January dumping ground canon fodder. I guess that's what we get when we have a (bleep)-ing Moana movie coming out the last week of November. With Nosferatu and A Complete Unknown being the only two respectable releases to actually go wide this month I really can't think of a worse December than this besides like maybe 2020/2021 but even then I feel like we got more wide release Oscar contenders even if the "wide" release was mostly to streaming platforms. I truly feel like 2024 is going to be one of those weird years where a lot of the highlights are going to come from the first half of the year, with Dune and Challengers being the obvious example.

In all likelihood I'm probably going to have to go to San Francisco to see The Brutalist in ANY kind of reasonable time frame to include it on a proper "best of the year" list, and not even the AMC that's located right on my bus route either, but an Alamo Draft House I have to take like two internal city buses to get to. One of the better things to come out of the pandemic era was that Oscar movies were generally way more accessible, but HOLY COW 2024 took a BIG swing back in the opposite direction. I thought last year was bad having to wait a couple weeks past the new year for Poor Things and about a month for The Zone of Interest, but it really feels like a solid HALF of the Best Picture contenders are just playing this BS long game and at this point I'm not convinced Sing Sing actually EXISTS :p :p

@PerGron thoughts on "Queer"?
 

PerGron

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So after my triple feature today, here’s my basic thoughts (I overslept and missed my showing of Y2K and had to push Queer to a 9:30 showing, but it gave me the early afternoon to finish Christmas shopping so that worked out)

Mufasa: The Lion King- Like I said, I really did enjoy this one. It’s not perfect but it’s a huge step up from 2019. I think as a family adventure film with a bit of drama, some alright though not particularly memorable songs, and absolutely stunning visuals it works really well. It should surprise absolutely nobody that The Lion King is my favorite animated film of all time and in my top 10 films of all time in general so I have that bias going in, but it really worked for me overall and I do recommend it.

Sonic the Hedgehog 3- Dookie from a butt. I’ve not seen the first two films and I’ve never played Sonic nor watched any of the tv shows and all of my knowledge comes exclusively from that one video where the kid yells “when will you learn that your actions have consequences” and then the Chris Chan documentary series that’s at like a billion episodes on YouTube. This whole thing was pure and utter cringe and I contemplated walking out. The one saving grace is Jim Carrey is pretty solid and the action is FINE because the story has zero heart or emotion or fun, it’s just a beat by beat little kids movie with Shadow’s “tragic backstory” (which is so undercooked it may as well not exist that’s how little I cared) being the thing people love. I genuinely feel I entered a bizarro universe and saw two different movies from everyone else because Mufasa is getting dragged and Sonic people love and I could not be further from that train of thought.

Queer- Yeah, at this point he’s just Flukea Guadagnino because no way the dude who made this also did Challengers. I do think of his four movies this is the second best for me personally, I just don’t jive with Call Me By Your Name that much and you all know my opinion on Bones and All. I don’t think this movie is actively terrible or anything and I actually enjoyed Craig’s lead performance and Jason Schwartzmann’s comic relief, but to quote Peter Griffin:

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Maybe I’m just a big dumb idiot or maybe it’s super late but this movie felt like it thought it was way smarter than it is and also that it’s smarter than I am. I felt like it was staring me down with a smug grin with every piece of symbolism it had.

I do think visually it was beautiful and the performances again were good, but the story was janky and all over the place and completely lost the plot by the third act. His addiction plot line came out of left field and vanished the other way, the love story wasn’t particularly engaging, none of it really worked for me past the first hour or so.

I went with my partner who is not a movie person, her favorite of the year is “a toss between that one Anna Kendrick one (Woman of the Hour) and Immaculate, and she fell asleep during it and woke up during the jungle scene and chose to go sit in the car because she was so lost. I also went with my friend who is gay because he’s been dying to see it and he sobbed the entire time and says it’s the “second best movie he’s ever seen” (and would not elaborate on what the first one is because I already know he means 10 Things I Hate About You) so different perspectives there.

Yeah, overall December f*cking sucks this year. I won’t give up my rankings yet but as of this very moment, I have one movie in my top 10 for the year from December, two Netflix movies that were a lot of fun, and then a bunch of 3.5 star and below movies. Last December this was not the case, last December I was rushing back to see every single movie because they were all great. I’m very excited for Nosferatu and A Complete Unknown but December may come out as the worst month of the year (maybe rivaling May but even May had Planet of the Apes and Furiosa at least).

A24 has also lost the plot. MOST of their movies haven’t even been that bad this year, quite the opposite for me, I’ve thoroughly enjoyed Love Lies Bleeding, I Saw the TV Glow, A Different Man, and Heretic and didn’t entirely hate MaXXXine, Tuesday, or We Live in Time but their absolute dogsh*t distribution system this year has just continuously kicked me while I’m down. I want The Brutalist and Sing Sing because they’re two definite locks for best picture and I can’t f***ing see them ANYWHERE. I’m so ridiculously close to just pirating Sing Sing so I can see it because what the actual hell. And now they do it AGAIN??? What an absolute dumpster fire of a system. I mean, at least even though it only got 50 theaters, Juror #2 is on VOD and streaming after just a month, Sing Sing got leaked for 3 days on Microsoft video and then taken down and it’s not been heard from since. Absolutely ridiculous.
 
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TheOriginalTiki

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I'm writing out my short list for the Golden Tikis and it's really surprising how much Hundreds of Beavers and I Saw the TV Glow are turning up. Yet another testament that the first half of the year was definitely better than the second.
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Alright, my Mufasa thoughts. It's not a masterpiece by any means and I found myself getting genuinely bored around the middle section of it, but holy cow it's a massive improvement over TLK2019. The series has gone from the objectively worst Disney live action remake into one of the better ones, though I'd still probably put The Little Mermaid, Cruella, Cinderella, and Pete's Dragon above this. First and foremost, the animation is a huge upgrade from the Favreau film. The landscapes are colorful and varied, the skies are actually pretty, and the characters have some really great animation and facial expressions to them. It's really freaking funny to watch TLK2019 in retrospect. JON's quest for realism resulted in one of the most horrible looking blockbusters in movie history. With just a little effort, this definitely comes off as one of the best looking movies in a library of film that's soon to include dwarfs so horrifying they could be sleep paralysis demons.

Aaron Pierre was a fantastic Mufasa, and I think it's a shame he wasn't cast in the role to begin with. I was much more bored with Scar and Sarabi. I really hate how they made Scar into essentially a spoiled brat incel. It's an upgrade from the 2019 Scar I guess, but I just really don't think the folks writing either movie understood or were willing to go to the unconventional places that made Jeremy Irons Scar so iconic. Sarabi was very much just there, and I hated the fact that she more or less just existed as the object of affection to steer Scar towards his "tragic" origin story. Mads Mikelson as Evil Kimba was decent and I really like his design, but I found the actual motivation of his character super boring. It was literally just "I'm a bad lion and imma kill you. Rawr". :p

Where the film really shined was the side characters. I really loved young Zazu and once again think this actor fit the role so much better than the 2019 version. They did a great job making him a lot more headstrong in his youth. Surprisingly strong prequel character building there. Rafiki might have been THE highlight of the movie for me. Yes, having a big celebratory moment of him getting his stick was (bleep)ing stupid, but the "you are my brother" moment with Mufasa almost brought me to tears as a lifelong Lion King fan. It was once again excellent prequel character building and did a really fantastic job explaining the origin point of how much respect and reverence Rafiki has towards Mufasa. Generally speaking I found his arc throughout the movie to be the most compelling out of any character and kind of wish the whole story would have been told with him as the lead.

I didn't hate Timon and Pumba nearly as much as you and basically accepted their bits as Deadpool humor which I was expecting going in. I think their material is SOOOO fourth wall breaking that it kind of loops back around to having a little bit of VERY watered down Lion King 1 and 1/2 upside. I also think for being the most obvious nepobaby casting in cinematic history Blue Ivy Carter didn't do terrible in her role. Far from the most compelling kid voice acting ever, but I bought her emotions and investment into Mufasa's story just fine. I thought the way they wrote Simba and Nala out of the plot to be super awkward though. I actually thought the third act with Mufasa becoming king was really fantastic and it felt like a natural origin point for how we see the animals treating him in Circle of Life. The movie giving genuine character depth to the memorable moments and set pieces is definitely something it does really well. Let's just treat the "origin" of Pride Rock as THE meme of the movie and kind of leave it at that :p

So yea, overall I'm very happy with this and super annoyed that the overwhelming narrative is the online film community in general basically acting like obnoxious sports fans over Sonic beating this at the box office. Yes, Disney is a terrible company and I've been among the most outspoken in the community about that, but I'll give credit when I see real effort being put into something and Mufasa actually had effort where from everything I've heard Sonic 3 is literally nothing but fan service.
 

PerGron

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After a kind of meh episode last week, I think this episode of Skeleton Crew is my favorite by a long shot
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Here's my out of theater reaction...

Alright, I'm still processing Nosferatu but on initial impressions I definitely think it's lived up to the hype and is on the "masterpiece" tier. It's got all the bat- arthouse surrealism of The Lighthouse blended with The Northman's more traditionally cinematic and audience friendly pacing.

Lily Rose Depp is an absolute phenomenon. Ralph Inenson feels like he's stepping into the shoes of becoming a spiritual successor to Alan Rickman's screen presence. Dafoe is killer as always with one of his meatiest roles in general since The Lighthouse. Nicolas Hoult makes a solid leading man as he continues to grow in star power, while even Aaron Taylor Johnson who I've been notoriously critical of on my podcast delivers really solid work. It's definitely far and away the best ensemble cast of the Eggers filmography if anything else.

I don't even know what to say about Orlok. The approach was unbelievable. It doesn't even feel like a performance. The entire way the cinematography captured him made him truly feel like the presence of evil was right there on screen. I can't wait to study the nuances of his scenes on further rewatches. It's some really groundbreaking stuff as far as how to build suspense through a supernatural character. The shadow work...oh my god the shadow work!!
Okay, I'm rambling. I definitely need to see this thing a second time. And a third time. I clearly liked it a lot.
 

Architectural Guinea Pig

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Here's my out of theater reaction...

Alright, I'm still processing Nosferatu but on initial impressions I definitely think it's lived up to the hype and is on the "masterpiece" tier. It's got all the bat- arthouse surrealism of The Lighthouse blended with The Northman's more traditionally cinematic and audience friendly pacing.

Lily Rose Depp is an absolute phenomenon. Ralph Inenson feels like he's stepping into the shoes of becoming a spiritual successor to Alan Rickman's screen presence. Dafoe is killer as always with one of his meatiest roles in general since The Lighthouse. Nicolas Hoult makes a solid leading man as he continues to grow in star power, while even Aaron Taylor Johnson who I've been notoriously critical of on my podcast delivers really solid work. It's definitely far and away the best ensemble cast of the Eggers filmography if anything else.

I don't even know what to say about Orlok. The approach was unbelievable. It doesn't even feel like a performance. The entire way the cinematography captured him made him truly feel like the presence of evil was right there on screen. I can't wait to study the nuances of his scenes on further rewatches. It's some really groundbreaking stuff as far as how to build suspense through a supernatural character. The shadow work...oh my god the shadow work!!
Okay, I'm rambling. I definitely need to see this thing a second time. And a third time. I clearly liked it a lot.
Can’t express how happy I am to see your glowing review having worked with you on the Nosefratu attraction a while back! Glad it lives up to the public’s expectations.

Watched D&W and Wild Robot back to back on the plane today. D&W was wildly fun, Wild Robot was heartwarming but it played too safe with storyline imo- the visuals of both were spectacular
 

PerGron

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Tomorrow @TheOriginalTiki and I will be announcing the nominees for the Second Annual Golden Tikis award show. We will both be selecting a nominee as well as a few wild cards viewers get to vote on for the final nomination spot so make sure to follow along in the coming weeks!

That said, and with such a big year for movies (I've seen 340 thus far and while I've resigned to the fact I will not be hitting my 365 goal, there's always next year) I have a lot of nominees I want to get out there, so I have decided to release my shortlists for all 23 categories. These are the names in contention for the nomination from my angle, these do not reflect Tiki's nominees or shortlist nor do they reflect the final nominees, these are just the names I will be deciding from on my side.

If there are notable names you see missing, they are likely our locks already instated for each category. Those locks are as follows

Best Picture: Dune: Part Two
Best Actor: Mike Faist + Josh O'Connor- Challengers
Best Actress: Ariana Grande & Cynthia Erivo- Wicked
Best Supporting Actor: Javier Bardem- Dune: Part Two
Best Supporting Actress: Joan Chen- Didi
Best Director: Denis Villeneuve- Dune: Part Two
Best Screenplay: Sean Wang- Didi
Best Voice Performance: Maya Hawke- Inside Out 2
Best Needle Drop: "Like a Prayer" by Madonna- Deadpool & Wolverine
Best Score: Hans Zimmer- Dune: Part Two
Best Ending: Challengers
Best Villain: Proximus Caesar- Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Best Production Design: Mike Cheslik- Hundreds of Beavers
Best Visual Effects: Tristan Myles + Brian Connor- Dune: Part Two
Best Cameo: Channing Tatum- Deadpool & Wolverine
The Weirdest Little Creep Award: Shia LaBeouf- Megalopolis
Best Cinematography: Sayombhu Mukdeeprom- Challengers
Best Year Award: Dan Stevens- Abigail, Cuckoo, & Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire
Most Annoying Trailer Award: Argylle
Best Sound: Twisters
Best Animated Feature: Flow
Best Ensemble: Wicked
Most Disappointing: Joker: Folie à Deux

I kept my shortlist to 20 performances but the rest of the categories have between 10-20.

So with that, here is my long list of shortlists:

Best Picture
A Complete Unknown
A Different Man
A Real Pain
Alien: Romulus
Anora
Challengers
Conclave
Didi
Flow
Heretic
Hundreds of Beavers
I Saw the TV Glow
Juror #2
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Kneecap
My Old A*s
Nosferatu
The Substance
The Wild Robot
Wicked


Best Actor
Andrew Garfield- We Live in Time
Anthony Hopkins- One Life
Colman Domingo- Sing Sing
Daniel Craig- Queer
David Dastmalchian- Late Night with the Devil
Dev Patel- Monkey Man
Glen Powell- Hit Man
Hugh Grant- Heretic
Izaac Wang- Didi
James McAvoy- Speak No Evil
John David Washington- The Piano Lesson
Kieran Culkin- A Real Pain
Kingsley Ben-Adir- Bob Marley: One Love
Mo Chara, Móglaí Bap, + DJ Próvaí- Kneecap
Nicholas Hoult- Juror #2
Nicholas Hoult- Nosferatu
Ralph Fiennes- Conclave
Sebastian Stan- A Different Man
Sebastian Stan- The Apprentice
Timothée Chalamet- A Complete Unknown

Best Actress
Amy Adams- Nightb*tch
Anya Taylor-Joy- Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
Carrie - His Three Daughters
Chloe East- Heretic
Demi Moore- The Substance
Elizabeth Olsen- His Three Daughters
Florence Pugh- We Live in Time
Hunter Schafer- Cuckoo
June Squibb- Thelma
Kathryn Newton- Lisa Frankenstein
Kristen Stewart- Love Lies Bleeding
Lily-Rose Depp- Nosferatu
Maisy Stella- My Old A*s
Mikey Madison- Anora
Naomi Scott- Smile 2
Natasha Leone- His Three Daughters
Nicole Kidman- Babygirl
Phoebe-Rae Taylor- Out of My Mind
Zendaya- Challengers
Zoe Saldaña- Emilia Pérez

Best Supporting Actor
Adam Pearson- A Different Man
Austin Butler- Dune: Part Two
Bill Skarsgård- Nosferatu
Boyd Holbrook- A Complete Unknown
Chris Hemsworth- Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
Chris Messina- Juror #2
Clarence Macklin- Sing Sing
Cory Michael Smith- Saturday Night
Dan Stevens- Cuckoo
David Jonsson- Alien: Romulus
Dennis Quaid- The Substance
Denzel Washington- Gladiator II
Edward Norton- A Complete Unknown
Jeremy Strong- The Apprentice
Mark Eydelshteyn- Anora
Michael Keaton- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Nicholas Hoult- The Order
Stanley Tucci- Conclave
Willem Dafoe- Nosferatu
Yura Borisov- Anora

Best Supporting Actress
Aubrey Plaza- My Old A*s
Bridgette Lundy-Paine- I Saw the TV Glow
Cailee Spaeny- Civil War
Catherine O'Hara- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Danielle Deadwyler- The Piano Lesson
Elle Fanning- A Complete Unknown
Emma Corrin- Nosferatu
Isabella Rossellini- Conclave
Karla Sofía Gascón- Emilia Pérez
Katy O'Brian- Love Lies Bleeding
Lashana Lynch- Bob Marley: One Love
Liza Soberano- Lisa Frankenstein
Margaret Qualley- The Substance
Maria Bakalova- The Apprentice
Monica Barbaro- A Complete Unknown
Rebecca Ferguson- Dune: Part Two
Saoirse Ronan- Blitz
Sophie Thatcher- Heretic
Toni Collette- Juror #2
Zoey Deutch- Juror #2

Best Director
Aaron Schimberg- A Different Man
Adam Rehmeier- Snack Shack
Ali Abbasi- The Apprentice
Arkasha Stevenson- The First Omen
Clint Eastwood- Juror #2
Coralie Fargeat- The Substance
Edward Berger- Conclave
James Mangold- A Complete Unknown
Jason Reitman- Saturday Night
Joan Schoenbrun- I Saw the TV Glow
Jesse Eisenberg- A Real Pain
Mike Cheslik- Hundreds of Beavers
Luca Guadagnino- Challengers
Osgood Perkins- Longlegs
Rich Peppiatt- Kneecap
Robert Eggers- Nosferatu
Sean Baker- Anora
Sean Wang- Didi
Tilman Singer- Cuckoo
Zelda Williams- Lisa Frankenstein

Best Screenplay
Aaron Schimberg- A Different Man
Adam Elliot- Memoir of a Snail
Azrael Jacobs- His Three Daughters
Chris Sanders- The Wild Robot
Clint Bentley + Greg Kwedar- Sing Sing
Coralie Fargeat- The Substance
Gabriel Sherman- The Apprentice
Gints Zilbalodis + Matīss Kaža- Flow
James Mangold + Jay C*cks- A Complete Unknown
Jane Schoenbrun- I Saw the TV Glow
Jesse Eisenberg- A Real Pain
Jonathan Abrams- Juror #2
Justin Kuritzkes- Challengers
Megan Park- My Old A*s
Mike Cheslik + Ryland Brickson Cole Tews- Hundreds of Beavers
Peter Straughan- Conclave
Rich Peppiatt- Kneecap
Robert Eggers- Nosferatu
Scott Beck + Bryan Woods- Heretic
Sean Baker- Anora

Best Voice Performance
Aaron Pierre- Mufasa: The Lion King
Amy Poehler- Inside Out 2
Arinzé Kene- Tuesday
Auli'i Cravalho- Moana 2
Bill Nighy- That Christmas
Bill Skarsgård- Nosferatu
Brian - That Christmas
Brian - The Lord of the Rings: War of the Rohirrim
Brian Tyree Henry- Transformers One
Catherine O'Hara- The Wild Robot
Jacki Weaver- Memoir of a Snail
Kevin Durand- Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Lupita Nyong'o- The Wild Robot
Matt Berry- The Wild Robot
Paul Dano- Spaceman
Pedro Pascal- The Wild Robot
Peter Dinklage- Wicked
Peter Macon- Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Priyanka Chopra Jonas- Tiger
Sarah Snook- Memoir of a Snail

Best Needle Drop
"...Baby One More Time" performed by Jack Black- Kung Fu Panda 4
"Anthems for a Seventeen Year Old Girl" performed by Yeule- I Saw the TV Glow
"
Blowin' in the Wind" performed by Timothée Chalamet- A Complete Unknown
"Bye Bye Bye" performed by *NSYNC- Deadpool & Wolverine
"C.E.A.R.T.A." performed by Kneecap- Kneecap
"Creep" performed by Radiohead- Heretic
"Eternal Flame" performed by The Bangles- Speak No Evil
"Get Lucky" performed by Daft Punk + Pharrell Williams- Piece by Piece
"Good Riddance (Time of Your Life" performed by Green Day- Deadpool & Wolverine
"Greatest Day" performed by Take That ft. Robin Schulz- Anora
"Hot in Herre" performed by Nelly- Challengers
"I Can't Fight This Feeling" performed by REO Speedwagon- Lisa Frankenstein
"It Was a Good Day" performed by Ice Cube- Tuesday
"Masters of War" performed by Timothée Chalamet- A Complete Unknown
"Memories" performed by Maroon 5- Venom: The Last Dance
"One Love/People Get Ready" performed by Bob Marley & The Wailers- Bob Marley: One Love
"Our House" performed by Crosby, Stills & Nash- Here
"Right Here Waiting" performed by Richard Marx- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
"Say No Go" performed by De La Soul- Civil War
"Yellow" performed by Coldplay- Bird

Best Score
Alex G- I Saw the TV Glow
Andrea Datzman- Inside Out 2
Benjamin Wallfisch- Alien: Romulus
Benjamin Wallfisch- Twisters
Brian Tyler- Abigail
Danny Elfman- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Gints Zilbalodis & Rihards Zalupe- Flow
Harry Gregson-Williams- Gladiator II
Isabella Summers- Lisa Frankenstein
Jon Batiste- Saturday Night
Kris Bowers- The Wild Robot
Martin Dirkov- The Apprentice
Nick Chuba- Thelma
Robin Carolan- Nosferatu
Stephen Gallagher- The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim
Stephen Schwartz + John Powell- Wicked
Trent Reznor + Atticus Ross- Challengers
Tyler Hilton + Jaco Caraco- My Old A*s
Volker Bertelmann- Conclave
Wally Badarou- Dahomey

Best Ending
A Complete Unknown
Alien: Romulus
Anora
Bird
Deadpool & Wolverine
Dune: Part Two
Flow
Heretic
Hundreds of Beavers
I Saw the TV Glow
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Memoir of a Snail
My Old A*s
Nosferatu
Saturday Night
Sing Sing
The Wild Robot
Thelma
Transformers One
Wicked


Best Villain
Anxiety- Inside Out 2
Art the Clown- Terrifier 3
Beavers- Hundreds of Beavers
Count Orlok- Nosferatu
Dementus- Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen- Dune: Part Two
Herr König- Cuckoo
Ivan- Anora
Johnny- In a Violent Nature
Longlegs- Longlegs
Macrinus- Gladiator II
Megatron- Transformers One
Mr. Reed- Heretic
Offspring- Alien: Romulus
Oz The Great and Terrible- Wicked
Paddy- Speak No Evil
Robert Matthews- The Order
Roy Cohn- The Apprentice
Scar King- Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire
Vontra- The Wild Robot

Best Production Design
Adam Elliot- Memoir of a Snail
Arthur Max- Gladiator II
Caty Maxey- Civil War
Chris Lowe- Bob Marley: One Love
Colin Gibson- Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
Craig Lathrop- Nosferatu
David J. Bomba- The Piano Lesson
Eve Stewart- The First Omen
Jason Kisvarday- MaXXXine
Jess Gonchor- Saturday Night
Mark Scruton- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Mark Worthington- Lisa Frankenstein
Naaman Marshall- Alien: Romulus
Nathan Crowley- Wicked
Olga Turka- Terrifier 3
Otello Stolfo- Late Night with the Devil
Patrice Vermette- Dune: Part Two
Stanislas Reydellet- The Substance
Stefano Baisi- Queer
Suzie Davies- Conclave

Best Visual Effects
Alien: Romulus
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Hundreds of Beavers
I Saw the TV Glow
In a Violent Nature
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Late Night with the Devil
MaXXXine
Memoir of a Snail
Mufasa: The Lion King
Nightb*tch
Nosferatu
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Sting
Terrifier 3
The First Omen
The Order
The Substance
Twisters
Wicked


Best Cameo
Anya Taylor-Joy- Dune: Part Two
Bear Grylls- Arthur the King
Chris Evans- Deadpool & Wolverine
Dafne Keen- Deadpool & Wolverine
Danny DeVito- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Fred Durst- Y2K
Henry Cavill- Deadpool & Wolverine
Jason Momoa- The Fall Guy
Kendrick Lamar- Piece by Piece
Idina Menzel + Kristen Chenoweth- Wicked
Jesse Plemons- Civil War
June Squibb- Inside Out 2
Lindsay Lohan- Mean Girls
Phoebe Bridgers- I Saw the TV Glow
Rob Gronkowski- The Instigators
Saruman the White- Lord of the Rings: War of the Rohirrim
Snoop Dogg- Piece by Piece
Steve Buscemi- Transformers One
Tamatoa- Moana 2
Wesley Snipes- Deadpool & Wolverine

Weirdest Little Creep Award
Alessandro Nivola- Kraven the Hunter
Aubrey Plaza- Megalopolis
Barry Keoghan- Bird
Cast of Kinds of Kindness- Kinds of Kindness
Dan Stevens- Cuckoo
David Dastmalchian- Late Night with the Devil
Dennis Quaid- The Substance
Ethan Slater- Wicked
Harris Dickinson- Babygirl
Ivan Carlo- Smile 2
James McAvoy- Speak No Evil
Jason Schwartzman- Between the Temples
Jeremy Strong- The Apprentice
Josh Hartnett- Trap
Justice Smith- I Saw the TV Glow
Justin Baldoni- It Ends with Us
Justin Theroux- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice
Nicolas Cage- Longlegs
Shameik Moore- Just in real life, bro
Simon McBurney- Nosferatu

Best Cinematography
Andrés Arochi- Longlegs
Benjamin Kracun- The Substance
Drew Daniels- Anora
Eliot Rockett- MaXXXine
Eric Yue- I Saw the TV Glow
Gerald Thompson- Memoir of a Snail
Gints Zilbalodis- Flow
Giovanni Ribisi- Strange Darling
Greig Fraser- Dune: Part Two
Jarin Blaschke- Nosferatu
John Mathieson- Gladiator II
Kasper Tuxen- The Apprentice
Michal Dymek- A Real Pain
Mike Gioulakis- Sasquatch Sunset
Phedon Papamichael- A Complete Unknown
Quinn Hester- Hundreds of Beavers
Robbie Ryan- Bird
Simon Duggan- Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
Stéphane Fontaine- Conclave
Yorick Le Saux- Blitz

Best Year Award
Austin Butler- The Bikeriders + Dune: Part Two
Cailee Spaeny- Civil War + Alien: Romulus
Catherine O'Hara- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice + The Wild Robot
Chris Hemsworth- Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga + Transformers One
Gabriel LaBelle- Saturday Night + Snack Shack
Glen Powell- Hit Man + Twisters
Joseph Quinn- A Quiet Place: Day One + Gladiator II
Kevin Durand- Abigail + Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Kiernan Shipka- Longlegs, Red One, Sweethearts, The Last Showgirl, + Twisters
Lupita Nyong'o- A Quiet Place: Day One + The Wild Robot
Margaret Qualley- Drive-Away Dolls, Kinds of Kindness + The Substance
Melissa Barrera- Abigail + Your Monster
NEON- Origin, Self Reliance, Immaculate, Longlegs, Cuckoo, Anora, The Seed of the Sacred Fig, The End
Nicholas Hoult- Juror #2, Nosferatu, + The Order
Pedro Pascal- Drive-Away Dolls, Gladiator II, + The Wild Robot
Scoot McNairy- Speak No Evil, Nightb*tch, + A Complete Unknown
Sebastian Stan- A Different Man + The Apprentice
Timothée Chalamet- A Complete Unknown + Dune: Part Two
Willem Dafoe- Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, Kinds of Kindness, Nosferatu + Saturday Night
Zendaya- Challengers + Dune: Part Two

Most Annoying Trailer Award
Abigail
Argylle
A Minecraft Movie
Arthur the King
Better Man
Borderlands
Dog Man
Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire
Imaginary
Joker: Folie à Deux
Red One
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Speak No Evil
The Fall Guy
The Garfield Movie
The Unbreakable Boy
Wicked
Wolf Man
Wolfs
Y2K


Best Sound
A Complete Unknown
Alien: Romulus
Conclave
Dune: Part Two
Flow
Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
Hundreds of Beavers
I Saw the TV Glow
In a Violent Nature
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Kneecap
Late Night with the Devil
Longlegs
Mufasa: The Lion King
Nosferatu
Piece by Piece
Smile 2
Terrifier 3
The Substance
Wicked


Best Animated Feature
Inside Out 2
Kensuke's Kingdom
Look Back
Mars Express
Memoir of a Snail
Mononoke the Movie: The Phantom in the Rain
Mufasa: The Lion King
Orion and the Dark
Piece by Piece
That Christmas
The Remarkable Life of Ibelin
The Wild Robot
Transformers One
Ultraman: Rising
Watchmen: Chapter One


Best Ensemble
A Complete Unknown
A Real Pain
Abigail
Anora
Civil War
Conclave
Deadpool & Wolverine
Dune: Part Two
Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga
Gladiator II
Juror #2
Kinds of Kindness
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Kneecap
MaXXXine
Nosferatu
Rumours
Saturday Night
Sing Sing
Twisters


Most Disappointing
A Quiet Place: Day One
Argylle
Blitz
Emilia Pérez
Kinds of Kindness
Kung Fu Panda 4
MaXXXine
Megalopolis
Moana 2
Queer
Rebel Moon- Part Two: The Scargiver
Salem's Lot
Sing Sing
The American Society of Magical Negroes
The Fall Guy
The Front Room
The Lord of the Rings: War of the Rohirrim
The Piano Lesson
Trap
Tuesday


And there we have it, my full shortlists. Unfortunately I was not able to see some big name movies like The Brutalist, Nickel Boys, The Last Showgirl and September 5 as they don't wide release until January. Because of that they will unfortunately miss the premiere awards show The Golden Tikis.

I look forward to seeing you all vote for your favorites and now that the year's wrapped up, share those end of year lists away! And here's to a great 2025 (in film at least)​
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Just so ya'll know where I'm coming from in the nominations, somehow A Complete Unknown came out of freaking nowhere and kind of STOLE the holiday weekend from Nosferatu. It's genuinely the absolute best music biopic I've ever seen. I'll admit I'm COMPLETELY biased as Bob Dylan is one of my music heroes and I've been listening to his stuff since early childhood, but I absolutely ADORE the approach taken here. Everything from condensing the time period down to about half a decade to really letting the actual performances breath and the whole movie being centered around the music just worked so well. I knew Timmy Chaals would be great, but I'm having trouble even putting into words just how amazing and transformed he was. There's like four or five scenes that will live rent free in my head for the rest of the my life.

Nosferatu felt like an inevitable "yep...it's definitely fantastic." A Complete Unknown feels like a freaking firework going off unexpectedly. Out of the two of them A Complete Unknown is definitely the one I'll be rewatching more if anything else.
 

cdunlap

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Alright, I'm back and have collected my thoughts. Here are said thoughts:
As I said upon exiting the theatre, Wicked is not just a film, it’s an experience. From the start of the film, I was stunned. The visuals were jaw dropping, the performances were superb, the sets and costumes were as vibrant as Oz needs to be, the music was amazing, even the pieces that weren’t originally in the musical, and everything came together beautifully. Overall, 10/10 would recommend it to everyone!
 

PerGron

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Well folks, it breaks my heart to say it but… I failed.

In my quest to see 365 new releases in 2024, a fool’s quest to be sure, it has come down to the final ten minutes and I’m sitting at work having just returned from a full night of animal shows and a pathetic list of movies having watched. I’m so sorry to disappoint you all, we will do better next year.

In all my effort I have racked up a measly
358
films. An utter failure.


(Yes, this is a joke, I cranked through a sh*t ton of movies this year and that number is still absolutely insane. I didn’t make my goal, but hey, 2025 is the year, I feel it. To more than double my amount from last year is crazy and I’m happy to have seen so many amazing and atrocious movies alike. December ranking coming up in the next day or so. Happy New Years y’all!)
 

PerGron

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It's over. It's finally over. 2024 was a year for me with changing jobs multiple times, health issues, and more personal stuff but I'm happy to say that I enjoyed one aspect at least and that was the movies! There were some really solid flicks this year and while I'll be covering all of my favorites at a later date in video form (if you're really curious I have the full list on Letterboxd) it is time to dive into one of the most mid months of movies of the year. December had a few absolute bonafide hits on its hands but it equally had some serious stinkers. I Got through 25 movies, so let's break 'em down here.

#25- Mickey and the Very Many Christmases
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[Watched on Disney+]

The animation here was overall really solid, but the story just did not work in the slightest. They essentially just rip off Huey, Dewey and Louie's plot from Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas where Mickey wishes every day could be Christmas and then that turns out to suck. Then the addition of someone's fursona as the elf just felt super jarring when she showed up it was like something straight off of the Ideas Wiki with some weird self insert that took me out entirely. I guess for really little kids this works, but where Mickey and friends are so iconic, I hate to see these watered down specials that deliver no charm.

#24- Sonic the Hedgehog 3
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[Watched in theaters]

I know this is about to get me crucified on some corners of the internet but I just don't like the Sonic the Hedgehog movies. I went back and watched the first two after seeing this to see if maybe there's some context or something I missed that would improve it, but no, it's all exactly the same sludge.

People are toting this as the best of the trilogy and, I mean, I guess, but that doesn't make it good. Shadow's tragic backstory was undercooked and I didn't care in the slightest, Sonic and his friends are grating to listen to (and that's coming from someone who does like Ben Schwartz), and the plotline is so nonsensically stupid that there aren't even any stakes. The human characters felt like they were in a totally different movie, I hated everything about Team Sonic, I found Shadow to be a waste of a pretty neat design (though I guess he's accurate to being edgy for edge's sake) and Keanu Reeves, Idris Alba, and Jim Carrey were all just absolutely wasted here. The end credits stinger teased another character and kids in the audience audibly gasped and I genuinely could not tell you who this character was. Good for fans that enjoy this I guess, but I thought it sucked and never want to subject myself to this series again.

#23- Mary
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[Watched on Netflix]

Despite my general aversion to religious movies like a God's Not Dead or the other slop Angel Studios puts out, I do love a good Biblical epic and the story of Mary is one I thought would be pretty interesting. It had Sir Anthony Hopkins as King Herod the Great so at least something would be worth watching I thought. Unfortunately, this movie is just straight up a snooze-fest. Starting with Mary's childhood and youth makes sense and her visits from Archangel Gabriel are some decent scenes and Gabriel is equal parts intriguing and terrifying, but overall it was just super boring. The journey to Bethlehem felt completely undercooked and Mary doesn't even ride on a donkey, they just take a cart. My very catholic grandmother enjoyed the movie so maybe for religious folks this one works, but for me it was just a boring adaptation of a classic story that could've been (and has been) done way better.

#22- Kraven the Hunter
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[Watched in theaters]

I'm incredibly happy that we are officially done with the Sony Spider-Man-less Universe because after Madame Web and Venom: The Last Dance, its last hope really was Kraven and it did not meet that goal. I really like Kraven as a character and I think he could've been really effective as a villain hunting down Venom in his series if they weren't gonna stick Spider-man in. Venom: The Last Dance where he's being hunted by Kraven instead of faceless CGI aliens could've really improved that movie and used Kraven well. Instead, we get good guy Kraven who hates poachers and also the Russian mob and so he takes them all out.

If the movie had stuck to the angle of him being against poachers and made it because he's all about the hunt and finds poaching to be cheating, sure, I could get behind that movie, but it seems to be because he just doesn't like hunting? That's weird. Then they drop the poaching stuff almost immediately so that he and Ariana DeBose can have ADR nightmare dialogue while hiding from The Rhino who only becomes The Rhino at the very end of the movie. Somehow, I think this is a worse Rhino than Paul Giamatti. This movie just didn't work at all, it was predictable, dumb, assassinated the characters in it, and killed a dying universe. Don't watch it.

#21- The Return
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[Watched in theaters]

The Odyssey is probably among the most iconic stories in history and somehow this movie starring Ralph Fiennes as Odysseus is made to be so ridiculously boring. They leave out any depiction of the pantheon of gods, monsters, or anything interesting depicted in The Odyssey and just focus on an old dude going home. Greek Mythology is beloved and this movie takes a dump on it. The Odyssey should be an epic journey and this was not that at all.

#20- SpongeBob and Sandy's Country Christmas
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[Watched on Paramount+]

I Stand by my point that SpongeBob should be over at this point. While this was marginally better than this year's Saving Bikini Bottom: The Sandy Cheeks Movie, it's mostly because the stop motion animation here is actually really solid. The storyline about having to save Christmas because Santa gets incapacitated has been done a billion times, I simply don't like Sandy's family, and the special feels too stuffed with reference humor to be an actually interesting or fun special. I know people don't agree with me on this, but let's just wrap up the sponge once and for all, this is just a product at this point.

#19- Maria
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[Watched on Netflix]

Just an absolute bore. What was with December and the boring movies? Angelina Jolie will walk out with an Oscar nomination and that's fair enough, but nothing in this movie gripped me in any way and I've essentially forgotten the entire thing already.

#18- Y2K
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[Watched on VOD]

As a concept, this works, but in execution it's just an (again) boring interpretation of something that could've been really good. Y2K was a wacky idea and an electronic apocalypse as a consequence is fun, plus the movie does have some decent kills. In the first act, I didn't entirely hate this and thought it could be a fun horror comedy, but it quickly devolves as it kills off all of the fun and interesting characters and keeps around exclusively the milquetoast cookie cutter ones until you just don't care anymore by the end because all the characters you liked watching are dead. It's a bummer because I do like a dumb horror comedy but this was neither good horror nor a good comedy and had WAYYYY too much Fred Durst.

#17- Queer
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[Watched in Theaters]

Flukea Guadagnino does it again because what the hell was this? Queer really worked for me in the first act where it's just an older guy and a younger guy going through their relationship struggles in 1950s Mexico. If the movie stayed as an exploration of that dynamic and kept up the intrigue it had built, I think this could've been a decent enough time. However, around the second act Daniel Craig's character suddenly has a drug addiction he didn't seem to have before and now he and his boy toy are headed to South America to do drugs in the jungle. This portion of the film just entirely lost me and jumped the shark so much. I know it's based on a book and isn't entirely Luca's fault, but I just could not get behind the second half of this movie. It's better than Bones and All at least, but it's certainly no Challengers.

#16- The Wonderful World of Disney: Holiday Spectacular
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[Watched on Disney+]

This doesn't even count, it's just a concert film, but I did watch it and it's on Letterboxd, so I included it. It's essentially the same as it is every year with some musical guests and Disney propaganda stuffed into a Christmas special. You know what you're getting but it's a classic way to kick off the Christmas season for my family so I had to watch it.​
 

PerGron

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#15- Nightb*tch
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[Watched on Hulu]

From everything I've heard about the book it goes way further than this movie was willing to go and that alone makes me want to check the book out. The movie though is pretty tame all things considered and the element of Amy Adams thinking she's turning into a dog is pretty backburner stuff compared to how I thought it would be. The movie is more about a woman struggling with being a mother because she's had to give up everything she loves and while that in and of itself is fine and pretty relatable to many mothers I'm sure, it's pitched as sort of a body horror dark comedy and we just don't get any of that. One scene made me kind of uncomfortable as she grows a tail, but the rest was overall a disappointing affair. It needed to do more and it just didn't.

#14- Werewolves
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[Watched on VOD]

The crew here asked "what if The Purge but werewolves" and that's essentially exactly what we got. We're thrown straight into this world where werewolves exist and we just gotta deal with that. The movie is very tongue-in-cheek, the same way something like Anaconda is and feels like it was made for the era when video stores still existed. The fact it got a theatrical release is both crazy and impressive, but for me, it's overall just a cheese fest that was a fun one time watch but I never need to see again.

#13- A Nonsense Christmas with Sabrina Carpenter
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[Watched on Netflix]

Another concert film but this one had some skits in it so it's better than the Disney one. Sabrina Carpenter is very talented and I'm happy to see her succeeding instead of making garbage like Clouds (2020) but this wasn't one I would've chosen to put on if it weren't for my partner being a huge Sabrina Carpenter fan. It was mostly fine but unfortunately the duet with Chappell Roan to Last Christmas by Wham! was kind of rough.

#12- The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim
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[Watched in theaters]

Elements of this were great. I loved the look of the movie and I also really enjoyed some of the battle scenes, but for a LOTR war movie, there's a shocking lack of war, it's mostly just the Rohirrim sitting behind a wall during a siege. Maybe calling it The Lord of The Rings: The Siege where Rohan is Stuck in an Abandoned Keep would've been a better title. Overall, it's fine but not anything special and I much rather would've had it be about Helm Hammerhand instead of his daughter who just wasn't a very interesting character. Definitely not one I plan on returning to, but the one viewing was mostly fine.

#11- Babygirl
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[Watched in theaters]

I've said before that I hate cheating and affair movies and that's literally all this is. I went in thinking it would be a commentary on power dynamics where she's a CEO and he's an intern and use domination as an inverse of that dynamic, but the steamy stuff is next to nonexistent and it's almost entirely just about Nicole Kidman trying not to get caught. The performance from Kidman and Antonio Banderes were both solid, but this movie was just not made for me.

#10- Wham! Last Christmas Unwrapped
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[Watched on Netflix]

A mostly fine documentary about Last Christmas but without George Michael who was the one who wrote and recorded and lauded over this song, it really felt less like they were honoring this song and more like Andrew Ridgeley is trying to stay in the limelight by honoring his friend's memory. There wasn't a ton of interesting insight or anything here because the one person who had that insight is the one who passed away years ago. Then recreating the song just felt wrong at the end. The stuff we did get was interesting but this felt overall mostly unnecessary.

#09- An Urban Allegory
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[Watched on Mubi]

I used my free trial for Mubi so I figured I'd get my use out of it. This is a short film about graffiti and street art and how it reflects people and urban environments. The movie is equal parts about preserving art and also the trappings of city life and it's done through some great animation. It's certainly not the best short film I've ever seen and it is a bit on the nose, but compared to the rest of December, this was a highlight.


#08- Mufasa: The Lion King
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[Watched in theaters]

I'm sorry but screw the haters, I found a lot of fun in Mufasa: The Lion King. I stand by my point that by and large the music isn't all that memorable especially compared to Lin Manuel's other works, but I have gotten enjoyment out of "We Go Together" which sounds like it'd be perfect for a parade at Animal Kingdom. As for the animation, it's stunning, and the character work is overall solid. Everyone complaining about it feels weird because this isn't a live action remake, it's an original story (though a prequel still) and people are treating it like it's Snow White (2025). I enjoyed it and while it's far from perfect, I don't think it deserves the hate.

#07- O C'mon All Ye Faithful
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[Watched on Disney+]

Like SpongeBob, The Simpsons needs to end. That said, I actually thought this was a really solid special that did some interesting stuff. While I'm by no means caught up on everything The Simpsons has ever done, far from it, I really enjoyed the way they had Ned Flanders question his undying faith in a realistic way and I enjoyed him coming to terms with faith being up to you through a fun and interesting scheme. Overall, I was surprised by this and if The Simpsons went the South Park route and just did specials instead of whole seasons I think they'd be better off.

#06- The Order
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[Watched in theaters]

Jude Law had quite the December with both The Order and Skeleton Crew. Unfortunately, nobody really got a chance to see this movie which sucks because it is a really solid action thriller. Based on a true story, Nicholas Hoult is fantastic here and entirely evil. I don't want to give much else here because I do recommend you check it out.​
 

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