The Imagineering Movie Discussion Thread

TheOriginalTiki

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It's the most Netflix movie not made by Netflix I've seen. I had fun with it because Chris Evans and The Rock are charismatic and I love Christmas so I kind of grade Christmas movies on a curve, but it's certainly not a "good" movie. Excited to hear his thoughts on Memoirs though lol
Speaking of grading Christmas movies on a curb, "Hot Frosty" is a freaking masterpiece in the "turn your brain off holiday cheese" department. My favorite Netflix Christmas slop since the magnum opus that is "The Knight Before Christmas".
 

AceAstro

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I am very curious what non-Wicked/ non-Broadway people think about Wicked. As a massive Wicked fan (especially of Act 1), I had an absolute blast at it last night. It was maybe a touch too long
especially Bowen Yang and Bronwyn James who felt more like "we have these two, we need to use them more than just extras"
but overall I really enjoyed it and I think the music was amazing.

The trailers definitely did it dirty on how it look. It definitely isn't great still but it is a LOT better than how it looked in the trailers. But for all these physical massive sets, I don't get why it looks so muddy lol
 

PerGron

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I am very curious what non-Wicked/ non-Broadway people think about Wicked. As a massive Wicked fan (especially of Act 1), I had an absolute blast at it last night. It was maybe a touch too long
especially Bowen Yang and Bronwyn James who felt more like "we have these two, we need to use them more than just extras"
but overall I really enjoyed it and I think the music was amazing.

The trailers definitely did it dirty on how it look. It definitely isn't great still but it is a LOT better than how it looked in the trailers. But for all these physical massive sets, I don't get why it looks so muddy lol
I’m excited to catch it (and Gladiator II) tomorrow. I grew up listening to the cast album of Wicked because my parents went to see it on Broadway and brought it back for us so I quite enjoy and have nostalgia for the music but have never seen the show itself. I’m hoping I enjoy it but I still have doubts over how oversaturated the marketing campaign has been already
 

PerGron

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I caught both Gladiator II and Wicked today and while I thoroughly enjoyed both of them, Wicked absolutely blew me away with how much I ended up enjoying it.

I didn't find myself having an issue with the color grading, I thought it was still pretty colorful and I guess that's just not something I really care about to begin with (maybe I'm too adjusted to the MCU color palette idk). As for the length, I genuinely didn't feel it in the slightest I was having too much fun. I checked my phone (I was in the way back don't worry) because I was getting a call and noticed I was like two hours in and it did not feel like it at all.

I think my biggest criticism is that some of the songs were a bit too drawn out, especially Defying Gravity which had a few too many cuts to action between lines that it made enjoying the song difficult, same with Dancing Through Life which is unfortunate because those are two of my top three songs in the whole musical so those two being extra drawn out was kind of disappointing.

Overall though, wow, I did not expect to love it nearly as much as I did, even as a casual fan of the music. Both the leads were phenomenal as were the many practical sets. I can't believe I'm saying this but... I want the second part like, now. I went in not even needing a second part since I find act 2 of Wicked to be a pretty big downgrade, but I just want to spend more time in this world with these characters and that's a hallmark of a great movie.

Universal should've made this a land instead of a THIRD Harry Potter land
 

TheOriginalTiki

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Yea, add me on to the Wicked hype train. It wasn't just great, it was fantastic and instantly melted away all the bad vibes the ad campaign has been conjuring. Arianna Grande absolutely deserves to WIN the damn Oscar. She's honestly one of the single most impressive performances I've seen in any movie in a long time. The comedy, singing, and dramatic acting is all just absolutely flawless with her. Some of her subtle facial reactions in "No One Mourns the Wicked" are genuinely haunting. I also think the supporting cast playing Boq, Fiyero, and Nessa were all fantastic and a big reason why I'm genuinely stoked for part two. I grew up listening to the soundtrack in high school but I've never actually seen the show, so I have some pretty decent confidence act two will translate better in a movie form with the proper context of the dialogue scenes.

Can we please talk about how seriously amazing the choreography was? I'm genuinely blown away by it. Dancing Through Life in particular ranks with some of the all time great musical numbers in film history. The stuff with the rotating library was visually awe inspiring, and the emotional moments in the ballroom were freaking chilling. The production design, costumes, color, everything was so freaking on point EXCEPT the washed out lighting which is a damn shame that I really hope gets corrected in part two. I also thought Erivo's performance was very much "good but not great". She's a FANTASTIC singer obviously, but I just didn't fully buy into the actual performance as much as I wanted to. I think Arianna being as much of a revelation as she is truly did the Elphaba character a disservice no matter who was performing it. She's THAT good and it's ridiculous that she's being campaigned in Supporting Actress and not lead (not going to make that same mistake with the Golden Tikis tbh)

My only other criticism is as PerGron said, some of the songs get a little too drawn out. Defying Gravity in particular was way too broken up with MCU style CGI chase scene BS. The emotional highs of the song still hit but it's not nearly as much of a mic drop moment as it could have been if they would have just let the song play out naturally. Again I was way more compelled by Arianna's reaction to Elphaba than I was to Elphaba herself, even though I think the character's plight was really well set up throughout the film.

Potential spoiler for part two
I freaking DIED laughing in the opening flashback when they try to hide the identity of the mother's lover but it's SO OBVIOUSLY Goldblum singing. Comedy gold right there 🤣 🤣
 

PerGron

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Well folks, November has come to an end and once again I managed a movie a day for new releases, this time with 30 movies watched. Honesty, November felt insanely long and slow compared to other months and the movies were overall mid. There are a few key standouts, but I got a bit lost in the weeds with streaming holiday slop, so I'm ready to just move past it and get into December. Here's the list.

#30- The Night Before Christmas in Wonderland
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[Watched on Prime Video]

This "movie" is an animated version of a children's book where Santa delivers gifts to the denizens of Wonderland and despite the whimsical nature of that premise, this was in incredibly grating experience. The animation is like PBS kids flash animation and is not pretty or fun to look at. The voice cast is crazy with Gerard Butler as Santa Claus and Emilia Clarke as the Queen of Hearts, but they do this thing where every other line rhymes like a children's book and while that's all fine and good for a short, this thing sits at an hour twenty and that was just way too much of that. Obviously as a 25 year old dude, I was not the target audience for this and maybe kids enjoyed it, but I think kids deserve better than this. It was a painful experience and thus sits at the last spot on my November ranking.

#29- Feather Christmas
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[Watched on VOD]

So we begin our long list of terrible Hallmark-esque Christmas films that I suffered through. Every year my partner and I try to find the weirdest and dumbest Christmas movies to watch and this one ended up on the radar. While I love a slop fest like you'll see higher on the list, this holiday romance about a vet taking care of a chicken was one of the most boring things I've ever seen. Like genuinely I cannot tell you anything about this movie because it's all left my brain in the two weeks since I watched it. I was hoping it'd be dumb and fun ala The Nine Lives of Christmas or The Twelve Men of Christmas or something like that, but no, this one was just insanely boring and hard to get through, especially at 94 minutes.

#28- Meet Me Next Christmas
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[Watched on Netflix]

This one is a little bit more my speed for these dumb things. It was a romance following a girl who wants to meet someone she thinks she's in love with after a chance meeting a year older but they have to meet at a Pentatonix concert and so she has to find tickets to the concert and thus hilarity ensues alongside her handsome concierge who will do anything to help her. The story is insanely unoriginal and you know every single plot point from clicking the play button, but holy **** was this dumb but funny. Pentatonix was so heavily featured here when I haven't thought about them since what, like 2023? Like they have a whole little subplot where they don't actually do anything except annoy their assistant. It's definitely more the dumb Hallmark type of Christmas that I was looking for, but the barrage of Pentatonix music and the amount of time someone says "OMG I Love Pentatonix, they're my favorite band" in the year of our lord 2024 is certainly cringy and gets old very fast because nobody LOVES Pentatonix like that. Very shameless plugging from those guys.

#27- The Merry Gentlemen
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[Watched on Netflix]

I can't believe I'm writing about Magic Mike 4: A Very Netflix Christmas, but here I am. This was another one of those picks my partner made, she's unironically a fan of some of these things and she wanted to watch this. It really is just Magic Mike if Hallmark made it, with terrible cheesy acting and extended PG burlesque sequences, complete with a Dollar Store Matthew McConaughey. It's exactly what you'd expect from the title "The Merry Gentlemen" with a contrived romantic plot, a third act misunderstanding, a "we have to save [X thing]" plot, and shirtless dancing 40 year old men. The only reason it's above the last one is not once does anyone confess their undying love for a capella group Pentatonix.

#26- Emilia Pérez
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[Watched on Netflix]

I kind of already said my piece here so I don't think I need to really rehash it, but yeah, this will 100% be my least favorite movie in the Best Picture conversation by far. I do think some of the songs were very good and both Zoe Saldaña and Karla Sofía Gascón were very good in their respective roles (I have less love for Selena Gomez than some do, I wasn't into the performance honestly) but I found the trans plot very exploitive and regressive for the overall cause. The plot is seriously a cartel leader gets gender-affirming care after murdering like so many people and doing many crimes, then fakes her death to go live as a woman before wanting to reenter her family's life. The ending "romantic" moment is her old wife deadnaming her as they both careen off a cliff together. I found it overall misguided at best and problematic and insensitive at worst. Again, I could be wrong here, maybe people in the LGBT+ community and especially trans folks don't feel this way (though I feel the song about the surgery certainly helps make my case, like what the hell was that?) but watching it I was not a fan of this movie. The performances and SOME of the songs and musical sequences get it this high up.

#25- Spellbound
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[Watched on Netflix]

This was one of the most by-the-books family animated films I've ever seen. It's not egregiously "bad" or anything, but it's so uninventive and uninspired in its concept that I just can't bring myself to care in the slightest. It's crazy because John Lasseter (despite his many faults as a human being) made Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Cars, and A Bug's Life on top of executive producing all of Pixar's movies up until his firing and now he's making garbage like Spellbound and Luck. What an absolute crash out that guy has had. Again too, this movie has a crazy voice cast with Rachel Zegler, Jenifer Lewis, Nicole Kidman, Javier Bardem, John Lithgow, Nathan Lane, and Tituss Burgess all in the cast and Alan Menken did the songs and yet nothing interesting came out of this movie. The most interesting part was the ending where something kind of unique for a kids movie is done, but it is definitely just bushed past pretty quickly and not much comes of it. Beyond that, it's just gross out and juvenile humor for 111 minutes. Animation this month as a whole was rough I won't lie, but yeah, skip this one and just go watch The Wild Robot.

#24- Dear Santa
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[Watched on Paramount+]

Someone took a meme and made it into a movie. As a dyslexic, this is always a silly little joke every year where I go "ha ha, yeah" because I too had to be corrected on Santa and Satan growing up, much to the chagrin of my VERY religious grandmother who made a big deal about my learning disability, but c'est la vie. Unfortunately, while the joke is moderately funny the first time you see it in the form of a 4-panel comic, it is certainly not funny as a Jack Black starring comedy on Paramount+. The story itself is dumb and stretched out and the movie has one of the most bafflingly insulting endings I've ever seen. Like, whoever permitted this movie to get made needs to be fired it's unfunny and hard to watch and I've really fallen out of love with Jack Black this year and am DREADING him in A Minecraft Movie next year. But yeah, don't watch this movie.

#23- Our Little Secret
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[Watched on Netflix]

And back to our regularly scheduled programming. Of the garbage Netflix holiday rom-coms, I actually find the Lindsey Lohan ones to be top tier. I didn't mind her in Falling for Christmas and here she's also pretty good. The plot is, of course, predictable as hell and certainly isn't anything new, but there are a few funny moments I don't think the other sagas of guy wears red girl wears green holiday movies would touch. Like there's a scene where Lohan is very stoned that is actually pretty funny. It's not like anything special, but of the many Netflix Christmas rom-coms that come out every year, this is among the better ones.

#22- A Sudden Case of Christmas
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[Watched on VOD]

After this we've only got one more Hallmark-esque holiday movie left, but A Sudden Case of Christmas actually deserves this higher spot. Starring Danny DeVito is always a plus, but the whole story was actually really sweet and charming about a family celebrating one last Christmas (in August) together before a divorce and the girl and her grandfather's escapades to save her parents' failing marriage. I actually enjoyed this one for what it is and while it is certainly predictable and unoriginal like all the others of its kind, it had more heart than I'm used to and thus I enjoyed it more than all but one, but you'll see that one later.

#21- Endurance
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[Watched on Disney+]

Everyone who's played in an Imagineering game with me knows I LOVE the tundra and am always happy to explore it, so a story about Endurance, a ship that was lost in Antarctica and the survival story that ensued makes for a pretty solid documentary and overall, this was. Unfortunately, this doc does a really crappy thing where instead of hiring actors to voice the journal entries of the survivors, it uses AI technology to create their voices. Obviously that's bad on principle, but at the end of the day AI will be entering our entertainment and there's nothing we can do about it except stand by the workers in the industry and fight for contracts limiting AI's scope. That isn't why this doc is bad though, on principle, no it's bad because the AI voices are hard to listen to, they just sound so bad. I was enjoying the documentary enough before they came in, but they really dampened the mood and took what was a three and a half star documentary and dropped it a whole star.​
 

PerGron

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#20- Nutcrackers
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[Watched on Hulu]

I've always liked Ben Stiller and I think he plays this type of curmudgeon turned loveable dad role pretty well ala Night at the Museum or Meet the Parents. He's pretty good here too as the uncle of a group of feral hippie children who lost their parents and he now has to find them somewhere to go. It's a holiday movie and I do grade those on a curve, so yeah, this movie isn't really anything you must watch immediately, but it was sweet and had some funny moments, though it really didn't need to be a Christmas movie, the Christmas elements really only come out at the very end. It's cute and sweet though, so not a terrible watch.

#19- Hot Frosty
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[Watched on Netflix]

We've reached the last of the Hallmark-style garbage and yeah, Hot Frosty was an ironic sense of fun akin to The Knight Before Christmas where it doesn't at all take itself seriously and you just have to accept the lunacy the same way the characters do. The fact this dude was a snowman and is now a whole guy barely crosses anyone's mind and they all immediately accept it and you just have to as well. If you're able to do that, yeah, I think you can have a lot of dumb fun with Hot Frosty like I did.

#18- Red One
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[Watched in theaters]

I hate to say it, but the hierarchy of power in the Santa Claus universe did not, in fact, change. Red One is a very Amazon Prime movie that they decided to drop in theaters because they wasted $250 million on it and I guess decided to try (and utterly fail) to recoup some of that cost. The sad part is, I actually think there's some fun to be had in this movie if they had tightened it up a little bit. The movie is at two hours and if they managed to get it down to like an hour forty I think it would've been better received. The Rock, for all his faults, is a charismatic guy as is Chris Evans and I didn't entirely hate their dynamic here. J.K. Simmons played a great Santa and I actually really loved the moments he gets to showcase how much he loves being Santa to the point it's really disappointing we don't get much of him. I almost feel like the movie needed to shift from being The Rock and Chris Evans looking for Santa to those two helping Santa escape and get back to The North Pole. Unfortunately, despite the fun that is to be had here, the runtime, the very meandering plot, the bad CGI, and the behind the scenes drama kind of killed this movie and makes it one that could've been a future classic to one that will go largely forgotten forever.

#17- Moana 2
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[Watched in theaters]

The Rock did not have a very good month but luckily for him, this one was (mostly) not his fault and likely will make a Moanillon dollars. Moana is one of my favorite Disney movies of recent years and for good reason, it's beautifully animated, the characters are a lot of fun, the music is great, the story is emotional, etc. It's everything a good family movie needs. For Moana 2, the only thing remaining from that list is beautiful animation. I know people are decrying Disney shipping production off to Canada for cheaper animation and yeah, I get that being an issue, but let's not hurt the animators who did an excellent job on this one. That said, everything else here is a HUGE downgrade from the first movie.

Moana herself is still excellently voiced by Auli'i Cravalho and despite the songs not being nearly as memorable (Mufasa's songs better be absolute bangers to not put Lin Manuel on this one) her voice is still amazing and she sells most of what she's given. Maui too is similar to the first movie when he actually gets to be on screen, but none of the new characters really stuck out and I don't actually remember any of their names. I remember girl who fixes boat, grumpy old dude, and muscular fanboy that reminded me a lot of season one Sokka from ATLA (and not in a good way). Bat lady was pretty cool until she absolutely wasn't anymore and the Kakamora dude who joins the crew was neat but entirely left out of most of the movie. The songs are also very forgettable. None of them are as bad as some of the stuff in Wish, but none are even remotely as memorable as How Far I'll Go or You're Welcome and the best musical moment was when they replayed We Know the Way from the first movie.

This whole thing reeks of Disney+ series and yeah, it probably should've stayed that, it probably would've even been pretty good seeing as though the mid credits scene teased in MCU fashion the innevitable Moana 3. I don't think Moana 2 is egregiously bad, it has its moments of fun and whatever, but it's definitely not the sequel to Moana we deserved.

#16- Blitz
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[Watched on Apple TV+]

This one was looking at an awards campaign though I'm not sure if that's still the case. I can maybe see an acting nomination for Saoirse Ronan because of how much the Academy seems to adore her, but beyond that I don't think there's really anything all that exciting or interesting about Blitz. The movie is a Dickinson-style tale about a runaway boy during the Blitzkrieg in London and the stuff with the boy on the run was actually pretty engaging, it shares equal time with his mother (played by the aforementioned Ronan) which was a significantly less interesting story. It also keeps jumping back in time and doing some weird storytelling that way and overall just kind of devolves into a bit of a mess which is unfortunate because Steve McQueen is a talented filmmaker. It's not the worst thing ever, obviously by its placement, but it is pretty forgettable unfortunately.

#15- Lost on a Mountain in Maine
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[Watched in theaters]

As a Mainer, I grew up reading the book Lost on a Mountain in Maine and had the author Donn Fendler come to my school every year for a big assembly, so I have a personal attachment to the movie that most people probably wouldn't have. I know most of y'all probably didn't even know this was a movie, but for us Mainers it was in all the theaters. It's an emotional story about survival and really shows off the beauty yet terrifying nature of the Maine woods and mountains. As a kid who hiked Mount Katahdin with my boy scouts troop, it really is a treacherous climb and the movie depicts it accurately. The acting and cinematography do feel a bit like a made for TV movie, none of it is particularly groundbreaking or anything, but my nostalgic ties get it this high.

#14- Freedom
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[Watched on Prime Video]

The first half of this French heist movie was really interesting and fun, but the movie did lose me in the second half. That said, I don't really remember a lot of it because I watched it a month ago and most of what I recall is trying to research the guy who the movie is based on but only being able to find his wikipedia page in French with no english translation which is really weird as he's like a French folk hero. It was a fun enough heist movie though.

#13- An Almost Christmas Story

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[Watched on Disney+]

This was a really cute short film with some absolutely gorgeous stylized stop motion animation. The story about a lost little owl in New York City, it's super super sweet and cute though its ties to Christmas are very very loose as even expressed in the film itself where John C. Reilly sings about it being an "almost" Christmas story. The animation alone is worth watching though and it's only like twenty minutes, so I suggest checking it out.

#12- The Best Christmas Pageant Ever
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[Watched in theaters]

Another book that I read as a kid, I remember fondly the Best Christmas Pageant Ever book and when I heard it was getting a movie I was mildly interested. And yeah, it's another Christmas movie that is overall fine and dandy with some funny elements, some sweet elements, and a message about loving everyone, even the troubled kids who the town hates. As someone who isn't particularly religious but can get down with the actual tenants of Christianity, I felt this was the perfect blend of Christian values of loving thy neighbor without forcing down your throat any sort of dogma or nu-Christian theology and America-centric Christian belief that stuff like what Angel Pictures makes. It was funny, sweet, and charming and definitely the best Christmas movie released thus far this year (unless we're counting Terrifier 3).

#11- The Lost Children
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[Watched on Netflix]

This was a really interesting documentary about the harrowing rescue and survival of a family of kids in the Colombian Amazon rainforest and how both the military of Colombia and the indigenous groups put aside their differences for a common goal. The story is really heartbreaking and difficult to watch but was also really interesting in the politics of the two groups working to save these children. I definitely think this was worth the watch and was my favorite doc of the month pretty handedly.​
 

PerGron

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#10- The Piano Lesson
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[Watched on Netflix]

This one wasn't a particularly great movie, the story itself would actually have it probably in the 16th or 17th spot if I was going just on that. Where The Piano Lesson really soars and makes my top 10 are in the performances within. Performances from John David Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, and especially Danielle Deadwyler absolutely steal this movie and carry it on their backs. The ending is also absolutely bonkers. But yeah, this movie is clearly based on a stage play because like a stage play, the story is whatever and the performances are what really count. It's worth the watch for those alone.

#09- Here
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[Watched in theaters]

Here is a unique premise of following a family through the decades from a single fixed perspective and while I totally understand that this is a gimmick, that's always been Zemeckis's thing. I don't mind pushing technology and watching what can be done so long as the story itself is engaging and yeah, I enjoyed watching this one. It wasn't the most unique story in the world and yeah it has that gimmick at the center of it, but I like a sappy family story and Here made for a solid one. That's on me being a Zemeckis truther I guess.

#08- Out of My Mind
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[Watched on Disney+]

I expected nothing out of Out of My Mind, I figured it'd be a sappy disability movie like Wonder or that upcoming Zachary Levi autism movie The Unbreakable Boy where they pander to the middle aged white mom and make sweeping generalizations about how disabilities should be coddled and not at all giving agency to the kids instead giving the agency to the parents. Out of My Mind is the exact opposite of that and gives all of the agency to the girl with Cerebral Palsy (of which the actor actually has too, so nice representation there). Yeah it has familiar beats of people making fun of her and then coming to accept her, but there's never a moment where the whole school rallies behind her to win the academic decathlon like you'd see in a lesser movie of this style. Yeah, I'd actually recommend this one.

#07- Sweethearts
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[Watched on MAX]

I watched this one last night and at the end I had to ask myself "did I have a blast with that?" and yeah, I actually did. After watching so many trivial contrived rom-coms this came as a really really refreshing anti rom-com. I love Kiernan Shipka and her and Nico Hariga had great chemistry here, I really believed them as co-dependent best friends and as characters overall. The best character was by far the one played by Caleb Hearon who was that one guy in Jurassic World: Dominion and basically nothing else. He was hilarious and added a great B-plot to the movie that kept it from getting stale. I also really loved the ending which most people seem to not be a fan of, but it worked for me especially as a straight guy who does have platonic female friends. The whole myth that When Harry Met Sally started that men and women can't be friends because they want to sleep with each other isn't necessarily true and this movie does a good job with that. I also do love a college party movie though so this one was more up my alley than some other peoples'. I do recommend checking it out though, I had a lot of fun with it.

#06- Gladiator II
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[Watched in theaters]

I'm kind of a casual Gladiator fan. I think the first movie is good, not necessarily a best picture winner in my book, but good. Gladiator II is kind of the same with similar visual spectacle and epic sequences with less interesting character stuff in between. Despite the meme, Ancient Rome isn't really my thing, but Gladiator II does enough with the games to make for an entertaining historical epic. The political drama was also pretty interesting for the most part though it goes on maybe a bit too long. Still, Denzel Washington showcases why he's one of the greatest of all time, Pedro Pascal continues to have a phenomenal year, Paul Mescal enters the lineup of pretty boys turned movie star alongside Timothee Chalamet and Austin Butler, and Ridley Scott makes a pretty good movie again which seems fewer and farther between nowadays. But yeah, good movie, not great.

#05- Juror #2
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[Watched in theaters]

It’s absolute bullcrap what Warner Bros Discovery did to this movie, releasing only in 50 theaters. Clint Eastwood is a Hollywood icon and in his 90s still making movies, you’d think they’d want to celebrate what is allegedly his last movie by marketing it and putting it everywhere, but no.

The movie itself was a really solid legal thriller with some really good performances. Nicholas Hoult is the perfect amount of skeezy and pathetic to make this role work. Toni Collette also puts in the work here as the hopeful DA and I wouldn’t be disappointed to see a nomination for her even if it’s just a consolation prize for effing up so badly with Hereditary. Shockingly, my favorite performances were from Chris Messina as the public defender and Zoey Deutch as Hoult’s wife who both brought humanity to the movie that it desperately needed. The whole ensemble is great though and when this hits MAX in December I recommend everyone give it a watch, it’s worth it.

#04- A Real Pain
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[Watched in theaters]

I like Jesse Eisenberg but I don’t love Jesse Eisenberg, especially after his debut feature When You Finish Saving the World which fell pretty flat for me. This time though he’s telling a much more personal story and I think it really works. A Real Pain is a difficult watch, especially during an extended scene where the characters tour through a concentration camp. Throughout the movie you go on this rollercoaster ride with all of the characters but the standout is truly Kieran Culkin who gave what is, to me, the performance of the year. He’s hilarious and cringe and embarrassing and lovable and hateable and so many more complex contradictory emotions that it’s a miracle he managed to effectively do them all in one character without making him exhausting to deal with. I know Eisenberg is the “lead” but Culkin steals the show and I NEED to see him win an award this year.

#03- Wicked
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[Watched in theaters]

I’ve already said where I stand on Wicked, but yeah, this and the two above it all make their way into my top 10 of the year thus far and unless December hits unexpectedly hard, I feel all three will remain in that top 10 by year’s end. I’m predicting two new movies slide in but all three of these hang on.

But yeah, this movie was fantastic. Thinking on it over the week since I’ve seen it so many of the performances continue to stand out, especially Ariana Grande but also Cynthia Erivo, Jonathan Bailey, Peter Dinklage, and Jeff Goldblum who I loved all. The set design remains high up on my list too and the music has been on repeat in my car and will likely damage my Spotify wrapped this year. If you haven’t already, go see Wicked!

#02- Anora
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[Watched in theaters]

I thought I was going to sour on Anora a bit, it’s one of those movies I don’t always expect to love and usually drop a few slots, but no, I’ve kept it in the same spot and still love it. All of the performances from the ensemble are great and my experience in the theater was truly amazing with the crowd that I had that it made driving through my enemy: Boston, completely worth it for that alone. It’s one of the movies I expect to get a lot of nominations this awards season and for good reason. Go see Anora, it’s worth the time,

#01- Heretic
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[Watched in theaters]

This may surprise people in a month of greatness like Anora and Wicked, but yeah, Heretic takes the cake for me. Again, I was raised Catholic but as I’ve grown up I’ve fallen out of religion and while I don’t really know where I’d classify myself, I don’t take part in the organized aspect of it in any way. I do, however, love the idea of theology from a sociological perspective and in college I took a bunch of classes on theology dissecting multiple world religions. I love discussing faith and its role in humanity and how even if you don’t believe in a religion you can still connect with elements of different ones, so this movie was literally made for me.

I absolutely loved Hugh Grant here, he’s a second behind Kieran Culkin for my performance of the year. He’s menacing yet calm and personable and you can see why he was an 80s and 90s heartthrob because he really is charming. The girls here are also great and match his wit pretty readily despite his confidence.

What I loved about this movie most though is how it is neither an indictment nor endorsement of a religion. Both sides get ample time in the spotlight and the movie comes to a conclusion that is super fair and balanced and yet up to interpretation. I think a very religious person and a staunch Reddit atheist can both go into this movie and both come out feeling they were fairly represented and that the movie concluded in their favor. It’s really a masterclass of discussion. While I get why this may not be most people’s number one of the month, I truly loved every minute of it and highly highly recommend.
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We’ve got one more month and I’m at 300 movies, so can I cram 65 in? We’ll have to wait and see. December is looking alright with a few heavy hitters and a few probably misses for me. Nosferatu tops my anticipated list as it has since the year began, I’m so excited we’re finally getting it! But The Brutalist is also heavy on my radar as a contender for my top 10. I’m less excited about but still interested in Nightb*tch, Babygirl, A Complete Unknown, Nickel Boys, Queer, and War of the Rohirim and while Sonic 3 and Mufasa are the big names for the month, they’re two I have no expectations about. I go into every movie hoping it’s the best thing I’ve ever seen, so who knows, maybe they’ll surprise me.

I’m glad November is over and I’m looking forward to another (final) month of 2024 movies!​
 

TheOriginalTiki

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I'm sure Moana 2 is...watchable...but the fact that it's literally the highest grossing Thanksgiving release ever is really, really frustrating and is totally sending an AWFUL message to Iger and co. about how quality and ambition literally just doesn't matter when your IP is that popular. I'm sort of just...done with Disney. Next year I don't intend to see any of Brave New World, Elio, or Thunderbolts Asteriks in theaters unless they get fantastic reviews (definitely NOT happening with Brave New World :p ) and my quick Epcot stopover to get the Cosmic Rewind credit and soak up World Showcase one last time during my Epic Universe trip in about a year will very much be the "last hurrah" for my run of going to the Disney parks. It's so painfully obvious Disney is JUST in Tom and Jerry Movie "we've got to have MONEY!!" mode and they literally just Do. Not. Care about doing anything that's actually creative or pushes the bar in any direction.

This next weekend I'm absolutely PRAYING for Moana 2 to have a massive drop off and for Wicked to reclaim the #1 spot. I honestly feel like the very soul of the company rests on rather or not that happens. When you think about the fact that Moana 2 is drawing in mostly parents who are very self aware of the fact that the movie will be on Disney+ in like two months mixed with the fact that Wicked's main audience is theater kids who are hyper-fixated by their very nature and thrive on repeat viewings, if Wicked doesn't end up back at number one it will truly be a "by all accounts it doesn't make sense" moment.

I've also been adoring Anora and it's been like the one film in a weirdly mid as hell November that's really stuck with me. If that's the Best Picture frontrunner I'm totally fine with it. A second viewing really solidified how well the two halves of the movie actually go together, and when the big shift in the middle of the run time happens it felt a lot more natural and I was able to lock onto Igor specifically knowing how important he'd be to the movie's climax. It's seriously a movie that almost begs for a repeat viewings with that element in mind.

Also props for having Hot Frosty in your top 20. My kind of trash, right there 🤣
 

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