The Imagineer 2-- R1, Project 6!

[Chrononymous]

Doesn't Universal have a Greek (or is it Mediternaean) style hotel already?

If so, we should probably stay away from that idea.

And I do like the Outback Australia Idea... I can really picture the Dreaming works of Aboriginal artists decorating the place...but then I worry that it might have too similar a vibe to AKL

 

[figmntal95]

Of course, if we go Greek it could be the Olympus resort. Really play up the greek gods aspect of it, or make it the legendary retreat for gods and mortals lucky enough to be admitted. It could be awesome to make it like it's a resort that claims to be on the grounds of the fabled mount olympus. Lots of statues of the gods everywhere.

This is good. We can have the main resort be Olympus, and the DVC is Zeus' gardens or something like that.

 

[Chrononymous]

Ok...let's throw some Australia ideas out here!

Let's see if it has the same excitement!

 

[figmntal95]

Doesn't Universal have a Greek (or is it Mediternaean) style hotel already?

If so, we should probably stay away from that idea.

And I do like the Outback Australia Idea... I can really picture the Dreaming works of Aboriginal artists decorating the place...but then I worry that it might have too similar a vibe to AKL

Yes, the Portofino Bay....

Maybe, they're not really alike though.

I also like the Australia idea. How would it give the same vibe?

 

[figmntal95]

Ok...let's throw some Australia ideas out here!

Let's see if it has the same excitement!

I said earlier we do main hotel as Outback (maybe with ana Outback Steakhouse :lookaroun) and DVC is sydney.

 

[Chrononymous]

Figmntal~I guess I wa thinking about native aboriginal art, and how it would provoke a similar feel to the native art styles of Africa. There is an otherwordliness and storytelling aspect to both.

Ok...so Outback...how would the theme of the outback translate to an upscale resort?

Sydney...that I can kinda see a modern luxury feel...but what IS it thatmakes Australia special...what is in the achitecture/art/culture that sets it apart?


I am trying to "see" how this theme gels in terms of look, and immersive theme...from the carpet in the lobby to the idea of themed pools...and I just can't quite get anything solid yet.

 

[Chrononymous]

I can however see the Ancient Greek hotel very clearly in my head.

But it might be because I stayed in a place called the Olympus Hotel in the Wisconsin Dells that already has that over the top Greek theme (and it's own little theme park!)

Didn't someone mention Japan on this thread as well?

I know they don't have an Oriental themed hotel in Disney yet...and that could also be very cool.
Although my thought would again be towards ancient culture...like Feudal Japan, or ancient Tibet...or Bali.

 

[figmntal95]

Figmntal~I guess I wa thinking about native aboriginal art, and how it would provoke a similar feel to the native art styles of Africa. There is an otherwordliness and storytelling aspect to both.

Ok...so Outback...how would the theme of the outback translate to an upscale resort?

Sydney...that I can kinda see a modern luxury feel...but what IS it thatmakes Australia special...what is in the achitecture/art/culture that sets it apart?


I am trying to "see" how this theme gels in terms of look, and immersive theme...from the carpet in the lobby to the idea of themed pools...and I just can't quite get anything solid yet.

When I think of Australia, I think Kangaroos and Sydney Harbor. I actually just thought that if we call the Main Hotel "Disney's Australian Resort" then we can include all aspects of mainland Australia, so the Outback and Sydney. Then, the DVC resort can be "The Tasmanian Villas at Disney's Australian Resort," themed around the island of Tasmania.

 

[figmntal95]

I can however see the Ancient Greek hotel very clearly in my head.

But it might be because I stayed in a place called the Olympus Hotel in the Wisconsin Dells that already has that over the top Greek theme (and it's own little theme park!)

Didn't someone mention Japan on this thread as well?

I know they don't have an Oriental themed hotel in Disney yet...and that could also be very cool.
Although my thought would again be towards ancient culture...like Feudal Japan, or ancient Tibet...or Bali.

Yes, that is the Mt. Olympus theme park.

The only problem with Japan is that Mater posted earlier that we couldn't use something that had already been imagined. There was an Asian Hotel (and now that I think of it, an Ancient Greek) that was brought up but never built. So we may definitely face some roadblocks there.

 

[Chrononymous]

geh. Allright ...time to do some research, and see what was planned for Disney, resort-wise, and never actually built.

And I was really strating to like the Greek idea...maybe we can go Roman after all, and it would still be OK?

I am also thinking a general Italy resort now... Which could have a Pompei or Roman pool,a Venetian lobby area... some amazing restaurants, Tuscan villas...

 

[Chrononymous]

I realize that the Deluxe and Moderate resorts are all based on places...whereas the values are all based on concepts.

But Olympus would be more conceptual based than an actual place, wouldn't it? If we went less for the real Greece, and more for the fantasy/anything can happen idea...this might set it apart from the ideas that Disney had already drawn up.(still researching the old resort ideas)

I don't know. I am certainly not married to this idea...but I am trying to wrap my head around the themed luxury resort. I have stayed in many of the ones in WDW, and of course, Las Vegas has it's own brand of cool themed resorts as well.


and just to throw some more wacky seeds out here...

why not go over the top concept...rather than real place?

Like a retro sci fi themed Jules Verne Steampunk hotel?

Or an Atlantian or under the Seabase theme hotel?

Or an indoor cavern themed resort?

and in terms of places...well, there's never been a vintage Chicago themed hotel before (except for maybe IN Chicago) although 1920 art deco gangsters might not be so Disney friendly.


I am just trying to think of all the themes that would translate to a cool resort experience. One that would be luxurious, and beautiful, and over the top, and delicious...that has not yet been done.

 

[CharlieD]

I don't see why we can't go for Greek & Roman. We are, after all, essentially coming up with two hotels. And the general theme of Ancient eras and general architecture is quite similar.

But if we only choose one I'm really torn between which one to go for. If we went for Greek we could really base it around Greek mythology but Ancient Rome has so much potential as well- and we could easily create two restaurants based on Italian food.

I don't think an Ancient Rome resort would be anything like Portofino Bay at Universal. I like the idea of a general Italy resort but the problem is not only is Portofino Bay nearby, Disney already came up with concepts for a Venetian resort and Mediterranean Resort. Plus, a general Italy resort could be very similar to the MiraCosta at Tokyo Disney Sea.

The Japanese hotel would be good (no Pokemon though!) but like figmntal95 said, Disney also came up with Disney's Asian Resort.

I like the Australian idea too but I just think going for either Greek or Roman there is much more to work with. And if this was a reality, knowing Disney they would stuff the place with Finding Nemo references.

So my vote is for Greek and/or Roman. I see the deluxe hotel being Disney's Greek Resort with grand Greek pillars at the entrance and each floor with rooms based on a different God. Restaurants could even be named after them, for instance, Poseidons: could be a fish restaurant.

Then the DVC hotel would be themed to Ancient Rome with each unit being a grand Roman villa.

 

[CharlieD]

Would a Disney's European Resort be a bit much? Each section of the hotel dedicated to a different country.

UK
Ireland
France
Spain
Germany
Italy
Holland
Greece
Switzerland

... they're pretty much the main ones. That could the deluxe hotel then the DVC hotel could be, like Chrononymous suggested, themed to Tuscan villas: The Mediterranean Villas at Disney's European Resort.

And one wild idea that just came in to my head: Disney's Intergalactic Resort- a hotel on a different planet!

 

[Chrononymous]

I like where your ideas are, Charlie...but I do think a complete Euroresort is a little too much! It's too close to the World Showcase idea...and I thiink in the long run would be very difficult to implement.

I too am liking an intergalctic idea! The first resort on the Moon! (although there's a Futurama parody episode firmly stuck in my head there...)

Australia has yet to really WOW me...though it has potential, the harbor and kangaroo thing is just not enough yet...

allright...so I have been thinking about the Roman/Greece thing again...two sides of the same resort. Ok. What it is that ties these two together?

It's a simlarity in architecture...I can see the collumns and grape vines and mosaic tiles.

And it's a similarity with mythology.

ok then...why not just say...make a Mythology themed resort?

Some Ancient Greek and Rome styled rooms with their gods and monsters...but maybe even toss some ancient Egyptain and Norse Pantheons in there too?

 

[Chrononymous]

Ok..here's one more weird and wacky idea that just came to me...thought I would throw this out here too...

The Four Elements Resort.

the resort rooms would be divided into four seperate themes...or Earth, Air, Fire and Water (or Ice) with the lobby combining them all.
I can just see how open a theme this would be, and the potential for some really beautiful luxurious details.

 

[CharlieD]

^ Yeah I did think a whole Euroresort would be too much. Just trying to think of places Disney haven't used before: space, underwater, Arctic, Far East, Africa, Australia.... actually, come to think of it, I can't think of a single Disney hotel that isn't themed to somewhere in North America/Caribbean (apart from MiraCosta).

I like a mythology hotel but I don't think it would work so well if it was Roman aswell. Pretty much all the Greek Gods are much more well known: Zeus, Athena, Poseidon, Hades, Hermes etc. The Roman gods aren't as well known and share their names with planets which may confuse people. Having said that basing a whole hotel on Greek Gods would be really difficult!

Talking of planets, imagine a hotel set on a futuristic Mars space base with the whole hotel enclosed in a futuristic bubble. There could be 'pretend' windows looking out on the red Mars landscape. And staff could wear space suits!

 

[mewhunter67]

unfortunately, I haven't and won't be able to put much thot into this until later (i'm booked solid all weekend, starting now)

but I like the countried, but I really like teh four elements idea chron just put forward... the dynamic elements would be awesome!

wind powered objects like mobiles, chimes, fans in teh wind area...

water fountains, falls, special effects in the water...

torches, special fire things (oil on water, maybe down a fall?!) burning wicks in odd shapes, layers of flame

earth... lesse, volcanoes could mix with the fire, stone monoliths, unique carvings, and possibly lighting effects (like the rocks of hell in the carribean: http://images.google.com/images?oe=...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CCQQsAQwAw )

Anyway.... could have a way to intertwine the four... wind makes fire columns, fire and earth in volcanoes, large stone cliffs and waterfalls, waves and waterspouts by wind....

 

[MaterA113]

NOTE You are thinking of one hotel theme, with TWO COHESIVE areas (deluxe/DVC)... Think of Contemporary and Bay Lake Tower.

OH! I also forgot to say, you have to tell us WHERE it will be located.

 

[mewhunter67]

i like the space idea too, charlie. an idea i had for a park was seperate lands (in this case areas) that are diff planets (not neccessarily real) they can be connected by wormholes or portals, that can be walked, or, in my favorite idea, connected by maglev trains that act as spacecraft between them. even elevators can have a space feel with pneumatic tubes or electromotivated vehicles!

 

[mewhunter67]

thanks mater, thats what i wasnt sure about....