The Frontierland Fry Cart

[jt04]

But I don't think it's just kids that want things like burgers and fries, I think when it comes to Disney for a lot of people food isn't their number one priority, getting in and out of the restaurant and back to the park is. So they prefer simple things like burgers or chicken fingers. I think as far as QSR goes it needs to be kept simple and convienant for guests. Which is among the reasons that Noodle Station didn't fare so well.

I would not call the noodle station "inspired" by any stretch.

And anyone can order from the kids menu but personally those foods make me want to :hurl:.

Nuggets are made from a slurry of processed chicken and pressed into shapes and then breaded. That is why the ones at BK look like little crowns. There isn't an actual part of a chicken shaped like that. If that appeals to you by all means help yourself!

 

[progroupie]

I'm not really a fan of either the burgers or chicken fingers offered in the parks, I prefer the chicken wraps at Pecos or the taco salads, but obviously burgers and chicken fingers are best sellers among all ages which is why they're offered. I don't really see it being in Disney's best interest to tell everyone to just order off the kids menu if they want a cheeseburger.
I actually don't really care what kind of meal I eat in the parks, I'm more worried about spending my day doing things, if I want a good meal I'll book a table service meal or eat outside of the parks. Fast food is fast food for a reason, it's quick and easy and can be mass produced for large crowds.

 

[yankspy]

I think it's a bit unreasonable to expect all food offerings to be themed to the land. Pizza and chicken fingers don't really have that much to do with Fantasy Land and no one complains about Pinocchio's. It would be incredibly inconvienant to only have certain foods in certain lands. When people are in the parks usually they just want to grab a hamburger and get on with their day. As long as the restaurants are well themed I don't see why the food they serve really matters. Yes it's cool that there are some nicely matched offerings like turkey legs in Frontierland or Dole whips in Adventureland but I don't think it's nearly as important as keeping guests happy and making dining convienant for them. If we wanted to get all nitpicky about things then they shouldn't be using electronic registers or have working restrooms either or sell DVD's in the giftshops but obviously exceptions have to be made for the sake of the overall experiance. That's sort of the point of Disney themeing, that you can be sitting down eating a cheeseburger and still feel like you're in the old west.

Pinocchio's does try a little bit. Pizza and med. salads do fit with the Italian theme. I would not suggest heavy theming of all the restaurants because yes people do want their burgers and chicken fingers. (Me Too). It is just nice if you can combine the two occasionally.

 

[jt04]

Pinocchio's does try a little bit. Pizza and med. salads do fit with the Italian theme. I would not suggest heavy theming of all the restaurants because yes people do want their burgers and chicken fingers. (Me Too). It is just nice if you can combine the two occasionally.

It would be easy to add a variety of pizza, pasta dishes with a variety of sauces, assorted salads and even gelato or Italian ices. Kids like pasta and it is MUCH healthier than fried chicken nuggets and fries. Easily served up for the "masses" and with good profit margins. It ain't rocket science.

 

[yankspy]

It would be easy to add a variety of pizza, pasta dishes with a variety of sauces, assorted salads and even gelato or Italian ices. Kids like pastaand it is a lot healthier than nuggets and fries. Easily served up for the "masses" and with good profit margins. It ain't rocket science.

Agreed. However, I am a little apprehensive about too many healthy items on vacation, even for kids, yep, I said it. Part of the joy of going to Disney when I was a kid was being allowed to drink soda and eat burgers and candy. These things were normally forbidden in our household so it was a nice treat. Also, is it me or did the village haus used to have more Italian food type items. I seem to remember salami sandwiches or something like that, not that that is healthy either.

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

This thread is making me hungry for McNuggets and french fries. :lookaroun

I think I've mentioned before on here that I think it's silly that there isn't at least one awesome burger joint and an awesome pizza parlor in any of the parks, or anywhere in Walt Disney World for that matter. Liberty Inn would be a great place for great burgers, something at least at the level of quality of a Five Guys or an In 'n' Out. Hamburgers are an American icon, why not showcase some good ones at our pavilion? Or you could do pizza there. I would say Future World East could use something good to eat, do a pizza place there. Expand that dinky box called Mission: SPACE and make it worthy of the word "pavilion", and build a space-themed pizza restaurant. (No, not Pizza Planet!) Or boot GM out of their VIP area up above at Test Track and do a transporation themed pizza parlor with an awesome view of Future World. Or replace Electric Umbrella. A pizza place would also probably work very well at Downtown Disney. Anyways, that's really my only thought about they should do about the food options.

 

[jt04]

This thread is making me hungry for McNuggets and french fries. :lookaroun

I think I've mentioned before on here that I think it's silly that there isn't at least one awesome burger joint and an awesome pizza parlor in any of the parks, or anywhere in Walt Disney World for that matter. Liberty Inn would be a great place for great burgers, something at least at the level of quality of a Five Guys or an In 'n' Out. Hamburgers are an American icon, why not showcase some good ones at our pavilion? Or you could do pizza there. I would say Future World East could use something good to eat, do a pizza place there. Expand that dinky box called Mission: SPACE and make it worthy of the word "pavilion", and build a space-themed pizza restaurant. (No, not Pizza Planet!) Or boot GM out of their VIP area up above at Test Track and do a transporation themed pizza parlor with an awesome view of Future World. Or replace Electric Umbrella. A pizza place would also probably work very well at Downtown Disney. Anyways, that's really my only thought about they should do about the food options.

Seems to me good food (not necessarily "healthy") should be the rule not the exception at WDW. I'm not advocating only healthy eats. I'd just like to see quality rule out with an eye towards imaginative options. McDonalds just doesn't seem very interesting inside a theme park.

By the way, if anyone doubts how popular new and interesting food are need look no further than the popularity of the F&W Fest or all the eateries around WS.:slurp:

PS By the way, Wolfgang Pucks has some pretty decent pizza

 

[progroupie]

Food and Wine Festival is completly different than normal quick serve locations. It's a specific festival to showcase unique foods, it isn't something that would be feasible year round or work in any other park but EPCOT.
I don't think people realize how difficult it would be for Disney to maintain such super unique and high quality QSR locations. As it is I think Disney's QSR offerings are fine the way they are, the food isn't bad by any means, some of it is quite good even if it isn't unique or superb. But when you're dealing with the volume of guests that places like Pecos Bill and Cosmic's deal with, you can't be making pastas to order or making a million salads with different specifications or special orders. And while having smaller QSR locations that offer a variety is a good idea, if those locations don't draw in enough of a crowd to cover operating costs (i.e. El Pirata or Noodle Station) then they aren't exactly the smartest business venture.

 

[yankspy]

Food and Wine Festival is completly different than normal quick serve locations. It's a specific festival to showcase unique foods, it isn't something that would be feasible year round or work in any other park but EPCOT.
I don't think people realize how difficult it would be for Disney to maintain such super unique and high quality QSR locations. As it is I think Disney's QSR offerings are fine the way they are, the food isn't bad by any means, some of it is quite good even if it isn't unique or superb. But when you're dealing with the volume of guests that places like Pecos Bill and Cosmic's deal with, you can't be making pastas to order or making a million salads with different specifications or special orders. And while having smaller QSR locations that offer a variety is a good idea, if those locations don't draw in enough of a crowd to cover operating costs (i.e. El Pirata or Noodle Station) then they aren't exactly the smartest business venture.

I hate to sound Cliche but "If we can dream it we can do it". Disney was always known for raising the bar in all aspects of its business. There is no reason why they could not improve upon their food. Would it be difficult, maybe, impossible, no. I do agree that they have a pretty good selection already, but they could always do better.

 

[Disneyson 1]

Back to the fry cart...

Screamscape has a graphic of how the cart might look, plus the information (that we already know) that the cart/ building may (will) feature wraps & chicken nuggets. I guess that's the end of the cart. The only way it could be incorporated would be if it was smashed into the new building or something.

"Save the Frontierland Fry Cart!" thread anyone?

 

[yankspy]

Back to the fry cart...

Screamscape has a graphic of how the cart might look, plus the information (that we already know) that the cart/ building may (will) feature wraps & chicken nuggets. I guess that's the end of the cart. The only way it could be incorporated would be if it was smashed into the new building or something.

"Save the Frontierland Fry Cart!" thread anyone?

Thanks. Here is the link for anyone interested in seeing the concept art. It looks okay.
http://www.screamscape.com/html/wdw_-_magic_kingdom.htm

 

[Mr.EPCOT]

PS By the way, Wolfgang Pucks has some pretty decent pizza

They do have awesome pizza, I usually alternate between them and Earl of Sandwich on trips to Downtown Disney. But I just want to see an establishment dedicated to pizza.

 

[progroupie]

I hate to sound Cliche but "If we can dream it we can do it". Disney was always known for raising the bar in all aspects of its business. There is no reason why they could not improve upon their food. Would it be difficult, maybe, impossible, no. I do agree that they have a pretty good selection already, but they could always do better.

I guess it just depends on what you want to see Disney throw their money into, whether it be QSR locations or shows/parades/rides. I think their food offerings as far as QSR goes are adequate and in some cases even above average so to me I just don't see the sense into sinking money into something that doesn't really need a change and that the majority of consumers seem to be satisfied with. If someone is interested in good food there's always world showcase or a table service restaurant, but it seems like the majority of people just want a burger.

 

[jt04]

I guess it just depends on what you want to see Disney throw their money into, whether it be QSR locations or shows/parades/rides. I think their food offerings as far as QSR goes are adequate and in some cases even above average so to me I just don't see the sense into sinking money into something that doesn't really need a change and that the majority of consumers seem to be satisfied with. If someone is interested in good food there's always world showcase or a table service restaurant, but it seems like the majority of people just want a burger.

I'm not suggesting they get rid of the standard burger and fries routine, I'd just like to see the MK offer a variety of good food like they do at Epcot. My point about F&W was that it proves there is a demand for a large variety of options not that it should be run year round. Not sure how you came to that conclusion.

The real problem with food at the MK and the reason the crowds are so absurd at the eateries is that they do not offer the options Epcot does (and AK more and more). If the MK opened up all of their closed and scaled back food establishments the crowds would even out, they could offer a variety of quality options and the guest expeience would be enhanced. But just as important, "Dollars Follow Quality".

And most people "just wanting a burger" is because there are really no other decent options without ADR's. The attitude at the MK is "you'll get your nuggets and burgers or you will go hungry". No good food for you!:lol:

 

[Kristilovesdw]

Back to the fry cart...

Screamscape has a graphic of how the cart might look, plus the information (that we already know) that the cart/ building may (will) feature wraps & chicken nuggets. I guess that's the end of the cart. The only way it could be incorporated would be if it was smashed into the new building or something.

"Save the Frontierland Fry Cart!" thread anyone?

Thanks. Here is the link for anyone interested in seeing the concept art. It looks okay.
http://www.screamscape.com/html/wdw_-_magic_kingdom.htm

Yeah I posted the artwork a few days ago, here's the image again:

 

[Disneyson 1]

Oh! Sorry. I had a hunch that it was already posted. Sorry!

 

[Kristilovesdw]

Oh! Sorry. I had a hunch that it was already posted. Sorry!

Oh you're fine, no need to apologize. Alot of the time the small graphics get overlooked unless you read every single page... which I myself don't do :lookaroun

 

[unkadug]

How could you make an intelligent response to a thread if you haven't read anymore than the original post?

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Eh, the concept art looks okay, but that new seating area looks a bit small to me. I think its going to need to be bigger than that. As it stands, they don't have enough seating in that area, and if they expand the menu, they are going to get more people eating there. Adding 8-10 tables isn't going to be enough, IMHO, and from the pic, the new seating area only has room for about that number. :shrug:

 

[Kristilovesdw]

How could you make an intelligent response to a thread if you haven't read anymore than the original post?

Ah, Mr. Grumpy Pants?? :wave: