The Frontierland Fry Cart

I found this artwork of the new fry cart on screamscape:
(10/3/08) According to this graphic (see below) one of our sources sent in, the McDonalds Fry Cart in Frontierland is getting a makeover and will soon look like this when it reopens in January 2009. From what we’ve been told, when it reopens it will see more than just fries however, and likely sell other food options like wraps, salads and chicken.

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I must admit I like the creativeness of the backstory but hate that is is sponsored by a company that then ruins the backstory. McDonalds does NOT belong in Frontierland. Coke goes back to the 1800's for example so that works. Plus it smells like a fast food restaurant so that is bad theming too.

The Walt Disney Company didn't exist during the 1800's either so if you're going to base the themeing on the fact that the company sponsoring it didn't exist than nothing in Frontierland belongs there at all.

Back on topic though, it's nice that they're adding seating. Most of the smaller stand type areas have seating nearby like Enchanted Grove or Lunching Pad. And it's good that the fry cart will have it as well because it will keep the overflow out of Pecos and Pirata seating during the busy times when it's impossible for guests eating at the restaurants to find tables as it is.
 

jt04

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In Disneyland's Adventureland they have a walk-up Shisk-kabob (Bengal BBQ) which is really awesome and would be great in El Pirata y El Perico. They have a real flame grill right out where guests can see it and best of all smell it. Mmmmmmmmm! Good show and food!

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You mean Imagineering is capable of combining "good food" with "good show"? Very promising! I love your idea by the way. Nothing smells better than kabobs cooking over an actual flame. Thanks for the post.
 

jt04

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The Walt Disney Company didn't exist during the 1800's either so if you're going to base the themeing on the fact that the company sponsoring it didn't exist than nothing in Frontierland belongs there at all.

Back on topic though, it's nice that they're adding seating. Most of the smaller stand type areas have seating nearby like Enchanted Grove or Lunching Pad. And it's good that the fry cart will have it as well because it will keep the overflow out of Pecos and Pirata seating during the busy times when it's impossible for guests eating at the restaurants to find tables as it is.

What does Walt Disney Company sponsor in Frontierland?
 

jt04

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I don't think they had Hamburgers in the 1800s either so we'll have to close that Pecos Bill restaurant while we're at it. :p

They don't need to close it, they just need to reimagine the menu a bit. It should be done all over property as some of the menus include fare you can get at every other busy intersection in the United States without even leaving your car.

You have a point that hamburgers are not exactly imaginative or inspired enough for a place like WDW.

There is a counter service at the Poly that is themed to the Pacific Islands. Much more in line with what I am talking about although it could use some improvements to the menu.
 

Timon

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You mean Imagineering is capable of combining "good food" with "good show"? Very promising! I love your idea by the way. Nothing smells better than kabobs cooking over an actual flame. Thanks for the post.

Bengal BBQ is my must stop snack at DL. I always have the worst luck there though. As I walk toward it, drooling for kabobs, the line only has 1 person in it. Suddenly group of 50 runs out of the Indy Ride exit and straight to Bengal BBQ. Something like this happens every time but the wait is worth it.:ROFLOL:
 

yankspy

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They don't need to close it, they just need to reimagine the menu a bit. It should be done all over property as some of the menus include fare you can get at every other busy intersection in the United States without even leaving your car.

You have a point that hamburgers are not exactly imaginative or inspired enough for a place like WDW.

There is a counter service at the Poly that is themed to the Pacific Islands. Much more in line with what I am talking about although it could use some improvements to the menu.
The Adventureland Veranda used to be more in line with that thinking as well.
 

jt04

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I miss that as well. The only land that I can see problems with themeing food to is Tomorrowland.

Personally I wouldn't mind if Tomorrowland had no eateries except for drinks/desserts/smoothies etc, as it's backstory as a futuristic transportation hub is a great concept and hopefully part of any future plan. I love the kinetic feel of this cohesive theme and the extra space (noodle station, cosmic rays) could be better utilized for new attractions.

However, Tomorrowland is the one place at the MK that I can see McDonalds fitting in because they will be around forever I suspect.
 
I think it's a bit unreasonable to expect all food offerings to be themed to the land. Pizza and chicken fingers don't really have that much to do with Fantasy Land and no one complains about Pinocchio's. It would be incredibly inconvienant to only have certain foods in certain lands. When people are in the parks usually they just want to grab a hamburger and get on with their day. As long as the restaurants are well themed I don't see why the food they serve really matters. Yes it's cool that there are some nicely matched offerings like turkey legs in Frontierland or Dole whips in Adventureland but I don't think it's nearly as important as keeping guests happy and making dining convienant for them. If we wanted to get all nitpicky about things then they shouldn't be using electronic registers or have working restrooms either or sell DVD's in the giftshops but obviously exceptions have to be made for the sake of the overall experiance. That's sort of the point of Disney themeing, that you can be sitting down eating a cheeseburger and still feel like you're in the old west.
 

jt04

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I think it's a bit unreasonable to expect all food offerings to be themed to the land. Pizza and chicken fingers don't really have that much to do with Fantasy Land and no one complains about Pinocchio's. It would be incredibly inconvienant to only have certain foods in certain lands. When people are in the parks usually they just want to grab a hamburger and get on with their day. As long as the restaurants are well themed I don't see why the food they serve really matters. Yes it's cool that there are some nicely matched offerings like turkey legs in Frontierland or Dole whips in Adventureland but I don't think it's nearly as important as keeping guests happy and making dining convienant for them. If we wanted to get all nitpicky about things then they shouldn't be using electronic registers or have working restrooms either or sell DVD's in the giftshops but obviously exceptions have to be made for the sake of the overall experiance. That's sort of the point of Disney themeing, that you can be sitting down eating a cheeseburger and still feel like you're in the old west.

I don't think it will ever be the case that most of the restaurants at the MK don't have a kids menu containing the required items of that particular "food pyramid" (chicken nuggets, pizza slices, burgers, mac and cheese, french fries, sweet drinks and ice cream) but that does not preclude them from offering interesting and appetizing menu options that appeal to an adults tastes and are "themed" to that particular facility. All it takes is a bit of inspired imagination.

PS- Obviously it is possible to theme cash registers (electronic registers could even be given the proper sound effects). Anything can be themed to some extent. Hopefully Disney will never aspire to be just like Six Flags.
 
But I don't think it's just kids that want things like burgers and fries, I think when it comes to Disney for a lot of people food isn't their number one priority, getting in and out of the restaurant and back to the park is. So they prefer simple things like burgers or chicken fingers. I think as far as QSR goes it needs to be kept simple and convienant for guests. Which is among the reasons that Noodle Station didn't fare so well.
 

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