The Force Awakens - spoiler thread

[Cesar R M]

I must have seen a totally different version of the movie than you, because I completely missed the part where Kylo whines about:

-His disliking of the political structure of the galaxy
-Him missing his mommy
-How sand gets everywhere
-His mentor bossing / talking-down to him
-How he is SO in love but forbidden to show it
-His point of view being different than the person he is fighting
-How the Jedi council hurt his wittle feelings
-His girl "may" die someday, so he'd better turn evil to prevent it
-Him missing his mommy some more

We only seen him for one movie... compared to Anakin's 3.
but he DID complain...
Well see if he matures or worsens in the next movie.

 

[Tony Perkis]

I never said "perfect bad guy". I said the guy you want to hate at all costs.
I mean the acting of Jason Isaacs in The Patriot was the epitome of an arrogant "untouchable" dude that went always above everything for greed/Ego.

As for Alan Rickman, are you sure you're not affected by his recent demise to put him that high in the list?
He was good, but for me he wasn't the best.

As for Kylo. He was essentially a more whinny teenager version of Anakin. Kinda reminds me of the first appearances of Zuko from The Last Airbender.

*edit*

Spoiler: other actors that I think portrait bad guys really well

Gary Oldman in Leon the Professional
Edward Norton in American X
Kevin Spacey on Se7en
Denzel Washington in both Training Day and American Gangster.

Also, to clarify.. there is one difference in ACTING and other the WRITING aspect of a character.
I'm talking ACTING.

I dont know whats funnier.. the fact that you have me on ignore because you cant accept a different opinion (reminds me of some hardcore fangirls of kylo that are of the level of the "believers" that insta block or "report you" to the admins when they see the minimum criticism).. or that you have to remind me that you have me on ignore. Having self esteem problems perhaps?

Confirmed. You prefer one-note villains with little-to-no depth. Bad for the sake of being bad. Got it.

And no, Rickman's unfortunate death has nothing to do with me putting Hans Gruber so high on the list. His villain was revolutionary and game-changing in the action film genre.

 

[Tony Perkis]

We only seen him for one movie... compared to Anakin's 3.
but he DID complain...
Well see if he matures or worsens in the next movie.

He complained about:

-Struggling with the line between the light and dark side
-Being bested by somebody else with the Force
-A stormtrooper breaking a key member of the Resistance free
-Rey escaping
-His relationship with Han Solo (which hasn't been elaborated upon yet)

None of that is as awful as sand.

 

[Cesar R M]

He complained about:

-Struggling with the line between the light and dark side
-Being bested by somebody else with the Force
-A stormtrooper breaking a key member of the Resistance free
-Rey escaping
-His relationship with Han Solo (which hasn't been elaborated upon yet)

None of that is as awful as sand.

hu, he whined about anakin 3+ times.
also the "struggled between the light and dark side" reaaaaally???
Now at this point I wonder if the translated version made him sound whinnier than the US version.
Because its clear you seen another version of Kylo that I DIDNT.
bonus for his enraged tirade of cutting everything with his lightsaber when angry.

also lol at your silly "confirmed, you only liked one dimensional". good one brah! have on my signature eyerolls just for you.
perhaps id give you a slowclap just for the sake of it.

 

[Tony Perkis]

hu, he whined about anakin 3+ times.
also the "struggled between the light and dark side" reaaaaally???
Now at this point I wonder if the translated version made him sound whinnier than the US version.
Because its clear you seen another version of Kylo that I DIDNT.
bonus for his enraged tirade of cutting everything with his lightsaber when angry.

also lol at your silly "confirmed, you only liked one dimensional". good one brah! have on my signature eyerolls just for you.
perhaps id give you a slowclap just for the sake of it.

Feel free to react however you'd like. I chose my words accurately.

 

[Cesar R M]

Feel free to react however you'd like. I chose my words accurately.

Well, at this point its clear I'm not going to change your mind even if I give irrefutable evidence.
You set yourself in an obvious position on ignoring anyone's opinion on regards of him. More specifically after you disregarded the examples and you just waved them with your excuse of "one note villains". Pretty funny, considering you waved away oscar winner material .

Me in the other hand, I dont buy myself in the hype bandwagon on kylo.

I can further point his huge flaws.. but again, Its not like you will ever read it, right? (or as per the other individual says "further reason why I put him on ignore" and continue with your "one note" excuse.)

(ps, I never said that Hans was a bad villain, which seems to have somehow irked you)