The epic Marvel debate massive

[PeterAlt]

For Pete's sake dude, THERE IS NO DEBATE. Why can't you just accept that? Have you looked through this thread? No offense, but one is taking you seriously. This thread is filled with fun jokes and everyone kidding around. That should tell you something.

If there's no debate then how come it keeps coming up with or without me, like it did on the DHS CL thread. I hadn't been there for a while. Today I went to catch up and I see Marvel being debated without my presence?

 

[PeterAlt]

OMG!!!!!!

There is an alien standing on the 1!!!!

I don't see an alien but I do see 2014, so he may be on to something...

 

[wm49rs]

If there's no debate then how come it keeps coming up with or without me, like it did on the DHS CL thread. I hadn't been there for a while. Today I went to catch up and I see Marvel being debated without my presence?

Again, they were talking about the movies, not your load of b#ll#cks conspiracies. Stop passing responsibility into others....

 

[lebeau]

If there's no debate then how come it keeps coming up with or without me, like it did on the DHS CL thread. I hadn't been there for a while. Today I went to catch up and I see Marvel being debated without my presence?

Because there are still a handful of people who refuse to grasp the reality of the situation no matter how many times it is spelled out for them.

Hey, I know. Maybe Disney can build a monorail to Islands of Adventure. Problem solved. They can even annex Harry Potter.

 

[PeterAlt]

Concept art leaked of It's A Smarvel World!!

See what WDW will be missing without Marvel?

 

[Californian Elitist]

If there's no debate then how come it keeps coming up with or without me, like it did on the DHS CL thread. I hadn't been there for a while. Today I went to catch up and I see Marvel being debated without my presence?

It's clear the people who've brought it up don't know any better. You do and yet you still bring it up. Well clearly you don't know any better, so I take that back.

 

[PeterAlt]

Concept art for the new meet-and-greet characters.

That's actually kind of creepy looking...

 

[lebeau]

Dude, they just bought Star Wars. Theme park rights and everything. They shouldn't even think about buying back the Marvel rights until they have milked the hell out of Star Wars.

Disney World has done just fine for four decades without Spider-man. It will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

 

[PeterAlt]

Please leave the conspiratorial BS out of this thread. We're having too much fun....

You love using that word conspiracy. I'm not talking about conspiracies. I'm talking good business practice. By the way, I'm having fun too. We can have fun and also be serious here.

 

[lebeau]

You love using that word conspiracy. I'm not talking about conspiracies. I'm talking good business practice. By the way, I'm having fun too. We can have fun and also be serious here.

Good business would be to use any of the numerous intellectual properties Disney doesn't have to shell out big bucks for.

Bad business would be paying Universal top dollar to get back rights they don't remotely need to please a few fanbois. Especially when they can and will build Marvel attractions almost anywhere else in the world.

You want to see a Disney-created Marvel attraction, you're going to have to go somewhere else.

 

[PeterAlt]

Could Disney do this? Yes. No strategy is required. Just lots and lots of money. The Marvel rights are worth more now than ever before. Anyone who has acquired the rights to Marvel characters would be foolish to let them go. Disney won't be able to buy them back cheaply.

Disney would be foolish to fork out the money required to buy back Universal's theme park rights or the film rights owned by Fox and Sony. They can spend the money on more important things while continuing to receive a stead stream of income from other studios.

Consolidating the Marvel rights under Disney is a fanboi dream. Disney isn't interested. It's time to accept reality.

No, it's good business. In the history of histories, every company has done this. Warner Bros spent years and years reassembling Looney Tunes and it was more expensive in today's dollars and more complicated than Disney's current situation with Marvel.

 

[englanddg]

No, it's good business. In the history of histories, every company has done this. Warner Bros spent years and years reassembling Looney Tunes and it was more expensive in today's dollars and more complicated than Disney's current situation with Marvel.

And then, what did they do?

They made Space Jam.

 

[PeterAlt]

This argument will almost certainly be disregarded by the OP.

That's my argument. That it shouldn't just be accepted as reality.

 

[lebeau]

No, it's good business. In the history of histories, every company has done this. Warner Bros spent years and years reassembling Looney Tunes and it was more expensive in today's dollars and more complicated than Disney's current situation with Marvel.

Apples and oranges.

Heck, apples and a side of beef. This is nothing like WB buying back the rights to Looney Tunes.

You have to realize that. You have to be willing yourself to ignore the facts. There is no other explanation.

 

[Hakunamatata]

No, it's good business. In the history of histories, every company has done this. Warner Bros spent years and years reassembling Looney Tunes and it was more expensive in today's dollars and more complicated than Disney's current situation with Marvel.

I'm amazed that with your ideas and connections that your not working for Disney.....

 

[PeterAlt]

True. But it won't change anything. Disney has no interest whatsoever in buying back the rights. It would take something major to change that. It's just not going to happen.

Reason number 487 on why current management must go.

 

[PeterAlt]

And by all means keep at it! The world needs original thinkers too. I'm never iritated by your speculative posts. We can't all be marni and know everything already. Well I can't and I don't. The fun is in the discovery, which is a personal journey, each one of us finding out what he wants from WDW's history - and even reading his own thoughts into it too.

There are fans who are obsessed with paddlewheel steamboats named after Walt's wife and who waste their time writing lenghty essays about their restoration - which will happen when Disney builds a monorail to its Marvel Park. Never be ashamed.

Well said!

 

[PeterAlt]

I'm amazed that with your ideas and connections that your not working for Disney.....

That makes two of us....

 

[lebeau]

Disney doesn't remotely need the rights to build Marvel attractions in FL.

1. There are plenty of other things they can build there. Star Wars is an obvious one. Avatar if they decide to carry through on that. Muppets, Pixar and fraking decades of Walt Disney entertainment. Heck, they could even come up with an original idea or two.

2. They can still use the Marvel IP in any of their other theme parks around the globe. Without having to pay any one an extra cent.

Given those two things, why on earth would Disney have any interest in buying back the Marvel rights from Universal?

Sony's Spider-man film rights are far more valuable to Disney than the theme park rights to Marvel in FL. But Disney isn't shelling out for those either. They will start buying back film rights from Fox and Sony long before they even think about buying back Universals rights.

 

[PeterAlt]

Apples and oranges.

Heck, apples and a side of beef. This is nothing like WB buying back the rights to Looney Tunes.

You have to realize that. You have to be willing yourself to ignore the facts. There is no other explanation.

How is it not like Looney Tunes? The history parallels the current situation so much that it's almost scary. WB benefited because the value of those characters shot up so much so fast, the payoff was quick and big.