Rumor The EPCOT Hotel

[danlb_2000]

His screenshot shows Buena Vista Construction as General Contractor? I thought Buena Vista was Disney's in house team that did not do these big projects? Or do them just handle the permitting for this stuff?

There are a number of problems with this.

-BVCC would not be the general contractor on a new hotel
-The address is 2000 Avenue of the Stars is the Inoventions West area
-vertical construction in 30 days: This would almost certainly need a South Florida Water Management Permit which hasn't been filed yet.

 

[RobbinsDad]

There are a number of problems with this.

-BVCC would not be the general contractor on a new hotel
-The address is 2000 Avenue of the Stars is the Inoventions West area
-vertical construction in 30 days: This would almost certainly need a South Florida Water Management Permit which hasn't been filed yet.

Reality is such a bummer.

 

[wdwmagic]

There are a number of problems with this.

-BVCC would not be the general contractor on a new hotel
-The address is 2000 Avenue of the Stars is the Inoventions West area
-vertical construction in 30 days: This would almost certainly need a South Florida Water Management Permit which hasn't been filed yet.

Yep.

We seem to go through this same cycle each time a new YT video emerges.

We are seeing none of the usual signs that anything like this is happening - particularly something as major.

 

[danlb_2000]

Yep.

We seem to go through this same cycle each time a new YT video emerges.

We are seeing none of the usual signs that anything like this is happening - particularly something as major.

I have a theory...

The screenshot shows Gensler as the architect and that this was first filed in August of 2018...

Gensler was the architect on the Swan Reserve which was announced in September of 2018.

 

[Nubs70]

There are a number of problems with this.

-BVCC would not be the general contractor on a new hotel
-The address is 2000 Avenue of the Stars is the Inoventions West area
-vertical construction in 30 days: This would almost certainly need a South Florida Water Management Permit which hasn't been filed yet.

Vertical in 30 days?? Highly doubtful unless they classify excavation and back filling "vertical"

 

[danlb_2000]

Vertical in 30 days?? Highly doubtful unless they classify excavation and back filling "vertical"

Yeah, we would have seen the site work already if it was going vertical in 30 days, and there would have had to be SFWMD permits already.

 

[wdwmagic]

Yeah, we would have seen the site work already if it was going vertical in 30 days, and there would have had to be SFWMD permits already.

Yes, and beyond all the permitting stuff, I really think we would have had some talk of this through usual internal channels.

 

[Andrew25]

There is some additional clearing just behind the bus loops (not the expanded pickup area) that looks like it has been expanded recently. No foundation work or drilling just yet, but it does look like something in the works, even if it's just land clearing now.

 

[danlb_2000]

There is some additional clearing just behind the bus loops (not the expanded pickup area) that looks like it has been expanded recently. No foundation work or drilling just yet, but it does look like something in the works, even if it's just land clearing now.

Here is a photo from March 17th showing that area. That land clearing has been there for a couple years.

 

[danlb_2000]

I have a theory...

The screenshot shows Gensler as the architect and that this was first filed in August of 2018...

Gensler was the architect on the Swan Reserve which was announced in September of 2018.

On the other side though, the permit to clear this land for possible future development was approved in early 2018, and they could be using the same architect.

 

[matt9112]

I wish they would you know fix wonders of life before any kind of absurd Hotel. But I guess DVC makes the world go round.

 

[Andrew25]

Here is a photo from March 17th showing that area. That land clearing has been there for a couple years.

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Correct... but there's more clearing of the area now

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Find it hard to get too energised about this hotel one way or the other if it is located off to the side of the park and can be largely ignored.

I don't have much faith that it will be up to the standard of the WDW hotels sitting on nearby Crescent Lake given Disney's recent hotel architecture, so in the respect I'd rather they just didn't build any new hotels until they reconsidered their embrace of nondescript hotel towers and hostility to themed hotel design. Not sure there's much hope of that, though.

 

[James Alucobond]

Find it hard to get too energised about this hotel one way or the other if it is located off to the side of the park and can be largely ignored.

I don't have much faith that it will be up to the standard of the WDW hotels sitting on nearby Crescent Lake given Disney's recent hotel architecture, so in the respect I'd rather they just didn't build any new hotels until they reconsidered their embrace of nondescript hotel towers and hostility to themed hotel design. Not sure there's much hope of that, though.

A somewhat modern hotel would at least be more aesthetically appropriate here than elsewhere, similar to the Contemporary with its Tomorrowland adjacency.

 

[doctornick]

Here is a photo from March 17th showing that area. That land clearing has been there for a couple years.

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completely unrelated to this, but I wish they would create a walking path from the bus loop/area circled to be able to walk back to Crescent Lake. You shouldn't have to go into Epcot to go between those areas given the relative proximity.

 

[J4546]

would this hotel be between the land and seas pavilion?

 

[networkpro]

Here is a photo from March 17th showing that area. That land clearing has been there for a couple years.

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With signage that says project omega.

 

[MisterPenguin]

would this hotel be between the land and seas pavilion?

That was once a candidate plot according to Martin, but he's since said, AFAHK, all EPCOT hotel ideas have been killed.

Unless they're very recently resurrected.

 

[wdwmagic]

That was once a candidate plot according to Martin, but he's since said, AFAHK, all EPCOT hotel ideas have been killed.

Unless they're very recently resurrected.

Yeah there were a couple of plans for hotels inside the park. A couple of them were absolutely crazy.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

A somewhat modern hotel would at least be more aesthetically appropriate here than elsewhere, similar to the Contemporary with its Tomorrowland adjacency.

True, but I'm not sure Disney's take on modern hotel architecture is particularly inspired.

For example, even without the thinly-applied decorations, the Riviera Resort is a fairly ungainly and, IMO, ugly example of hotel architecture. We'll see about the new DVC tower at the Polynesian, but the artwork makes it look like a mid-range suburban apartment building. None of them really seem to take the site into account in terms of their design, basically being towers that could be plopped down on a block of land anywhere.

I can imagine the proximity to Future World would just serve as an excuse to pare back the theming more than usual and rely on some photographs or vaguely mid-century modern finishings to elevate a pretty bland hotel tower.