_caleb
Well-Known Member
Some of us DO know.....
And I'm tellin' ya, the 'TP2000' who posts here is NOT the Troy you are lookin' for.
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You have no proof of that!
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The [Dis] Influencer- One Year Anniversary
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CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
I joined this forum right as this was blowing up last year and was endlessly fascinated by it. Since then I have a couple thoughts:
- Of course TWDC is trying to influence fan opinions on the Internet. That’s why they’ll give anyone who buys 10000 Instagram followers and calls themselves a Disney blogger an all expenses paid trip to try out Teppen Edo
- If Iger is paying people to try to influence opinions among the few thousand people who hang around this site, they’re doing a terrible job. The loudly shouted consensus views that make their way into almost every thread here are
- Bob Iger makes too much money
- The person he hired to replace himself is an idiot
- The person he put in charge of Lucasfilm is an idiot
- His signature parks addition, SWGE, was a bust and/or is terrible
- The changes he approved for Epcot are awful
- His sense of social justice is going to lead TWDC to armageddon.
Curious Constance
Well-Known Member
Some people are aware of things you’re not aware of, but no one owes you or anyone else on a public discussion forum an explanation just because an article was written that made false claims. As mentioned before, TP has known some of us for over a decade now. Some people know him more personally than just user TP2000 on the WDWMAGIC discussion board. Coincidences can sound crazy or impossible to believe until missing pieces are filled in that were unknown before. And as I said, no one should be expected to reveal personal information about themselves or others on a public Disney forum just because someone decided to write an article. If someone feels they believe the article and can’t live with thinking TP is here to manipulate us all they are free to hit the little ignored link by his name.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the explanation. I certainly don’t expect anyone to reveal any personal information here beyond what they’re comfortable with. Just to be clear, I’m not out to get him (or anyone)!
I wouldn’t want to ignore TP, I really enjoy his posts! And look how gracious he’s been though all this craziness!
Nevertheless, I don’t appreciate interactions that feel like part of some influence strategy. All my posts here are nothing more than me as an outsider trying to sort it all out. I’m not making any accusations— I’m drawing conclusions. I’m open to changing my opinion, but I guess I’d need some more information (not that anyone owes that to me).
Until then, I‘m just working with what I’ve read/experienced here.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
I agree that Bob Iger isn’t knowingly/willingly paying anyone to post negative stuff about him/Disney on fan sites (TP mentioned this upthread a bit).
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Thank you. I will say that there have been a handful of posts on this topic over the past year that have tried my patience, but for the most part it's been a fun exercise in civility and wit.
I don't blame you one bit for not wanting to feel influenced. Especially in these currently trying times, it's a smarmy thing to deal with. But if I can influence you into the opinion that the off-center window in New Orleans Square is not a big deal and the Cafe Orleans patio umbrellas mostly block it from view anyway, I would be happy to oblige here. Because that is what we do for the most part.
But at its core, this is an increasingly quiet discussion forum about an amusement park. That is still closed.
We aren't trying to find a vaccine for Covid or a cure for cancer here. We're talking about an amusement park, that the very important people who make big financial decisions about stuff need to be constantly reminded is "near Los Angeles".
George Lucas on a Bench
Well-Known Member
The off-center window is a disaster. It's a perfect analogy for the state of the entire company.
Says the poster who couldn’t help but make racist comments about Asians and post COVID misinformation earlier this year.
Communicora
Premium Member
Thanks for sharing this recipe @TP2000
Strong disagreements on Covid and politics aside, I honestly don't care if we have been bamboozled or disfluenced. We should all fix ourselvves a sidecar when it is 5 o'clock somewhere and cheers TP for sticking around and continuing to entertain us and perhaps have a second in honor of neighbor lady. I miss that sassy broad!
Interesting deflection of my point. I find TP2000’s racism and misinformation on COVID to be quite awful, but that happened after the article was published.
Plus, no one was “doxxed”. Real doxxing is wrong and what was revealed in the article was just that he worked for Disney as a ghostwriter for the Al columns and that he posts on forums as TP2000. Troy was out of the company prior to the release of that article.
SuddenStorm
Well-Known Member
Anyone saying Al had a ghost writer is insulting the work he did for the fan community over years and years of editorials. He had sources, yes- but that in no way means someone else was writing his stuff for him.
TP's writing style isn't even that similar.
TP's writing style isn't even that similar.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
Come on. TP is obviously a good enough writer that he could adopt different styles/voices. Don’t insult him.
And to my knowledge, no one is saying that Al Lutz never wrote his own stuff- just that he had help (and then eventually had a ghostwriter in Troy Porter).
I have not seen anything about whether Al himself was complicit or even aware that articles he didn’t write were being posted under his name (before they changed the byline to ”MC Team”). But we do know that there was an admission as far back as 2013 that he needed help with his column.
By the way, most of the articles you read by ”personalities” are not exactly “written“ by them alone. Some are good writers and just need some help with editing. Others need a lot more help stringing the words together coherently and really just end up contributing ideas that a writer then turns into copy for publication.
Read an Al column from ‘06 on and then read one of the “Neighbor Lady” posts.
TP2000
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Oh honestly, that's enough. When you start crying "racist!" it defeats whatever point you were trying to make.
Our little gang here certainly had a passionate weeks-long conversation on Covid a few months ago, and I doubt any of our various arguments changed any minds. But if you can't make the distinction between my criticism of the Chinese Communist Party (which I stand by) and a human being of ethnic Chinese descent (which I never criticized), then I can't help you.
If you disagree with my criticism of the Chinese Communists that's fine, as you are still allowed to express your opinion in this country. And the Politburo boys in Beijing need all the friends they can get right now, so I'm sure they'll take comfort in your support.
Now there's a great idea! I can't stress enough how important the fresh lemon juice is to the recipe. It's a perfect summer evening cocktail in my opinion. And thank you for the kind words.
Your “jokes”, that the mods had to scrub from the DLR forum, about bat soup and Chinese cleanliness were racist.Oh honestly, that's enough. When you start crying "racist!" it defeats whatever point you were trying to make.
Our little gang here certainly had a passionate weeks-long conversation on Covid a few months ago, and I doubt any of our various arguments changed any minds. But if you can't make the distinction between my criticism of the Chinese Communist Party (which I stand by) and a human being of ethnic Chinese descent (which I never criticized), then I can't help you.
If you disagree with my criticism of the Chinese Communists that's fine, as you are still allowed to express your opinion in this country. And the Politburo boys in Beijing need all the friends they can get right now, so I'm sure they'll take comfort in your support.
Having said that, I generally don’t disagree with your criticisms of the CCP and the Central Government.
SuddenStorm
Well-Known Member
I'd like to think the TP2000 handle is like the Dread Pirate Roberts... passed on from one TDA intern to the next over the years.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Funny I was thinking of the same reference....
I suspect the TP alias has been used by a few people until it landed to our friend here. And now its just a name from the history books that has no real meaning today in reference to this topic.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
So TP couldn’t possibly have written for Al Lutz because his writing style isn’t the same but he’s somehow managed to perfectly channel the previous TP from the late 90’s?
SuddenStorm
Well-Known Member
I'm just joking around. But I think two things can simultaneously be true- more than one person has had the TP handle, and TP isn't Al Lutz's ghost writer.
But also I'm just guessing here. I believe TP's denial of any affiliation with the Walt Disney Company beyond the occasional chat with the neighbor lady.
