The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Songbird76

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That just plain sucks.
It did, and it was a really rough time for me, BUT, 16 years later, I'm still here and wouldn't want to go back to the US. I have my husband, kids, home, job..I'm extremely blessed and happy. I have a good marriage, and healthy children. Yes, sometimes we hit a rough patch, like with DS and the bullying, but we handled it and I'm grateful that I live where I do, because the Autism training we got is only available here, and it has worked wonders for us. We couldn't have gotten that in the US. So yeah...it was a sucky couple of years, but now we're in a great place, so it was worth the struggle to get here. And there are other people who have it so much worse.
 

Songbird76

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It certainly is a business in this particular instance. It is a not for profit business. Any excess is expected to be reinvested in the organization and included in the following years budget numbers. It isn't free of connection, but, it does have strong limitations. The organization itself has to be run exactly like a business less the Profit and Loss statement. It is classified as a "charity" due to it's status as a religious entity not because of how much they take in, reinvest or just keep in reserve.

Personally, after my experiences, I wouldn't mind if the all shut down or lose their private school status. I would have fought to the end to prevent my own children from attending. I'm sure they have changed (hopefully) since I went, but, I wasn't going to take a chance with my kids.
Right...but that's the key.....re-investing in the organization. The email says they are putting all that on hold so they can keep the money. I'm wondering if that's allowed. I think there are some churches that do a lot of great work in their communities....like the english classes mentioned, or some offer food banks, etc. But if you are hoarding the money that is meant to fund those things and demanding that people donate more or you won't re-invest, that just seems a bit sketchy to me. People pay tuition to send their kids to the school, so it's not just funded based on weekly offerings from church. And obviously, if you can't run the school on the tuition they charge, they have to increase the price. That's logical, though it seems like a HUGE increase all at once. What I have a problem with is the sort of...almost blackmail situation. We're holding this hostage unless you give us x-number of dollars, etc.

@21stamps , you mentioned you wished they had an evening service...have you suggested that? Have you talked to either the church elders, or the school administrators about the scheduling? Maybe they can work something out if they understand your situation and why you can't always make it to the service in your parish. Couldn't hurt to ask, anyway.
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
I love lots of Disney movies but I've never been a big fan of Princess movies and I say that with a broad brush, I don't hate them but I find most of them hard boiled. Your Mom is Dead, there are usually Daddy issues and a Dude somehow rescues you and you are married. The End. Most Princess movies run that same Harlequin romance type of story line. Give me Monsters Inc or Toy Story any day.

And yep, I surprised they didn't alter the Mermaid's age to a more realistic modern time acceptable age, could have easily inserted her just finishing school or something into the storyline for her not to be a child bride in this era.
Moana, Merida, Aurora, Mulan & Rapunzel have both parents alive. Tiana's mom is also alive and she has no daddy issues; she also never needed to be rescued. Moana, Elsa, and Merida have no love interests.

I grew up on Disney princess movies and still love them. I had the princess costumes, the Barbie doll type princess dolls (and Prince Phillip and the Beast) a princess themed room...everything. I still have the artwork and the dolls (Anna and Elsa have been added to the collection). Still love them. I even watched Frozen last night.

Of course, I named my cats Belle and Jasmine, so I guess that was obvious.

I've never been into the princess movies either, but A really truly is. She lives and breathes Disney princesses. I think they're doing a really good job turning the stereotype around. Not just with Moana and Elsa, either, but with Sofia the first and Elena of Avalor, and Vampirina.

To me it would be a shame to alter classic movies to fit current cultural climate. Beyond Disney, The Little Mermaid was written in a time when 16 was not a "child bride" and that's an important piece of context around the story. Our lives got longer so the age in which we marry is later.
 

Songbird76

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you won't regret watching this:

Yes, I've seen that before and that's EXACTLY what it's like. I was thinking "He must think it's like the magic coffee table!"
No, I know he CAN do it, here's what I think is the problem. I used to only work about 4-5 hours a week. I'm what they consider "on call", which means I don't have set hours. I mark my availability for each week and they choose from those hours which ones they want me to work. A few years ago, I had a really bad evaluation because there was NO communication happening, and I'm a pretty quiet person with that sort of thing. I hate confrontation, and I'm the sort of person who thinks if I want something done right, I have to do it myself. So I was going around fixing the things that other people did wrong. I did the stuff that no one else wanted to do. No one liked working upstairs because it was sweltering up there and the set up was sooooo inconvenient, so I thought if I worked upstairs, it would show management that I was a team player and that I was taking initiative....I thought it would show my good work ethic. Only, they weren't paying attention and didn't realize that part of the problem is that it wasn't efficient, so everything upstairs took twice as long. So they judged me solely on how fast I was and because I was working almost exclusively upstairs, my times were slow. So I wasn't getting hours because they looked at it as, wow, she's slow. They didn't see all the extra stuff I was doing, because I didn't announce it, I just did what needed to be done. So I only got scheduled for one shift a week....just enough that they could say they were giving me hours, but other people were being scheduled for 25-30 hours a week.

When I got the bad eval, I was REALLY upset, went to HR and talked to them and we started trying to figure out why my times were bad. I kept saying it was because I worked upstairs, and the managers kept saying that shouldn't matter. So...we did an experiment. I worked one day ONLY upstairs, and the next ONLY downstairs, compared the times. My average upstairs was 54 seconds, and my average downstairs was around 30. The overall average within the company was 40 seconds. That means I was actually FASTER than average...just that I was only working upstairs while everyone else was only working downstairs. So once they discovered that, suddenly I was being scheduled every day I was available...I started being more vocal. Instead of just doing stuff, I went to the managers and said, "I noticed such and such...would you like me to take care of that?" So, I still work exactly the same way, but I make sure I work mostly downstairs to keep my times down, and I let them know what I'm doing.

So now I have to reduce my availability so they don't schedule me for 30 hours in a week. And the thing is, that when I was only working 5 hours a week, I had PLENTY of time to do all the stuff at home. There was no rushing to get a kid to physical therapy before I made dinner and went to work. And I was home to do the laundry, and grocery shopping, and cooking, etc. But, now that I'm working around 20 hours a week, the amount of time I have to get those things done is reduced. I can't switch the laundry to the dryer and start a new load if I'm not at home. And if I'm at home, I can't be upstairs folding clean clothes and be downstairs scrubbing down the kitchen at the same time. There's been a shift in my schedule, but DH didn't make the shift mentally, so he still expects me to do all the things I was doing before, only now I have half the time to do it. And now that DS is in Special Education and the school is across town, my school runs take over an hour where they used to take 15 minutes. DH is looking at it like the housework is for me because I'm the one who is home....only I'm not the one who is home anymore. So things keep just getting dumped on me with the assumption that I have the time to do them, but I don't. And slowly, the things that were supposed to be HIS job (dishes) have become mine because he would start the dishwasher before bed, and then in the morning, I needed to make the kids' lunches, but all the containers were in the dishwasher...so I had to unload the dishwasher to get to the lunch containers. So suddenly, unloading the dishwasher became my job. And then throughout the day, whatever dishes were used, I just put them straight into the dishwasher instead of letting them pile up on the counter. So we'd get to the end of the day, and all DH had to do was put the plates and silverware from dinner in and start it. So now suddenly, I'm doing 90% of the dishes, even though we agreed before we got married that dishes were his territory. So I have fewer hours at home, yet slowly everything has become my job, and now he's decided that loading the dinner dishes should be the kids' chore for their allowance. So he's just shifted all the responsibilities from himself, and it's really easy for him, so he doesn't see how much I'm struggling. And when he leaves stuff on the magic coffee table, and I need space on the coffee table, I have to move the stuff he left there so I have space...and I put it in the dishwasher instead of piling it on the counter. Poof....magic coffee table! It's just that he's still treating it like I'm only working 5 hours a week and have all the time in the world to clean up after everyone.

I don't think he realizes that he's not doing the dishes....he's the one who puts the block in and hits start, so he's doing the dishes. If he SEES me putting stuff in, he'll say "You don't have to do that...I'll do it tonight before bed." And that sounds really sweet, but it's not practical, because if I don't do it, I don't have counter space to use for meal prep. And things like cleaning the bathroom...I did that while he was out playing Ingress....but the next day, it would have been really nice if he had said "You know what? I had my fun yesterday, why don't I help you with the kitchen." or "Why don't I deal with the mopping and stuff and you take a break...you worked all day yesterday while I was playing." But instead he just says "You rock!" and then expects me to keep doing what I'm doing. He doesn't think to take some of the responsibility on himself so I can have a break, too. He just looks at that as my job, and seems to forget I also work outside the home. I don't think he notices I'm doing more than a 40 hour week between home and outside job, because I used to only work at home, pretty much.
 

Songbird76

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What's the proper punishment for a child who came out at eight and a half pounds who forgets his mother's birthday?
Generously allow him to make it up to his mother by using his OWN money to take her out for dinner at the restaurant of her choice. Or, assume all household duties for the rest of the week. And how was he allowed to forget? I feel like father dearest should have at least given a reminder...maybe he needs a bit of punishment himself.
 

Rista1313

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Yes, I've seen that before and that's EXACTLY what it's like. I was thinking "He must think it's like the magic coffee table!"
No, I know he CAN do it, here's what I think is the problem. I used to only work about 4-5 hours a week. I'm what they consider "on call", which means I don't have set hours. I mark my availability for each week and they choose from those hours which ones they want me to work. A few years ago, I had a really bad evaluation because there was NO communication happening, and I'm a pretty quiet person with that sort of thing. I hate confrontation, and I'm the sort of person who thinks if I want something done right, I have to do it myself. So I was going around fixing the things that other people did wrong. I did the stuff that no one else wanted to do. No one liked working upstairs because it was sweltering up there and the set up was sooooo inconvenient, so I thought if I worked upstairs, it would show management that I was a team player and that I was taking initiative....I thought it would show my good work ethic. Only, they weren't paying attention and didn't realize that part of the problem is that it wasn't efficient, so everything upstairs took twice as long. So they judged me solely on how fast I was and because I was working almost exclusively upstairs, my times were slow. So I wasn't getting hours because they looked at it as, wow, she's slow. They didn't see all the extra stuff I was doing, because I didn't announce it, I just did what needed to be done. So I only got scheduled for one shift a week....just enough that they could say they were giving me hours, but other people were being scheduled for 25-30 hours a week.

When I got the bad eval, I was REALLY upset, went to HR and talked to them and we started trying to figure out why my times were bad. I kept saying it was because I worked upstairs, and the managers kept saying that shouldn't matter. So...we did an experiment. I worked one day ONLY upstairs, and the next ONLY downstairs, compared the times. My average upstairs was 54 seconds, and my average downstairs was around 30. The overall average within the company was 40 seconds. That means I was actually FASTER than average...just that I was only working upstairs while everyone else was only working downstairs. So once they discovered that, suddenly I was being scheduled every day I was available...I started being more vocal. Instead of just doing stuff, I went to the managers and said, "I noticed such and such...would you like me to take care of that?" So, I still work exactly the same way, but I make sure I work mostly downstairs to keep my times down, and I let them know what I'm doing.

So now I have to reduce my availability so they don't schedule me for 30 hours in a week. And the thing is, that when I was only working 5 hours a week, I had PLENTY of time to do all the stuff at home. There was no rushing to get a kid to physical therapy before I made dinner and went to work. And I was home to do the laundry, and grocery shopping, and cooking, etc. But, now that I'm working around 20 hours a week, the amount of time I have to get those things done is reduced. I can't switch the laundry to the dryer and start a new load if I'm not at home. And if I'm at home, I can't be upstairs folding clean clothes and be downstairs scrubbing down the kitchen at the same time. There's been a shift in my schedule, but DH didn't make the shift mentally, so he still expects me to do all the things I was doing before, only now I have half the time to do it. And now that DS is in Special Education and the school is across town, my school runs take over an hour where they used to take 15 minutes. DH is looking at it like the housework is for me because I'm the one who is home....only I'm not the one who is home anymore. So things keep just getting dumped on me with the assumption that I have the time to do them, but I don't. And slowly, the things that were supposed to be HIS job (dishes) have become mine because he would start the dishwasher before bed, and then in the morning, I needed to make the kids' lunches, but all the containers were in the dishwasher...so I had to unload the dishwasher to get to the lunch containers. So suddenly, unloading the dishwasher became my job. And then throughout the day, whatever dishes were used, I just put them straight into the dishwasher instead of letting them pile up on the counter. So we'd get to the end of the day, and all DH had to do was put the plates and silverware from dinner in and start it. So now suddenly, I'm doing 90% of the dishes, even though we agreed before we got married that dishes were his territory. So I have fewer hours at home, yet slowly everything has become my job, and now he's decided that loading the dinner dishes should be the kids' chore for their allowance. So he's just shifted all the responsibilities from himself, and it's really easy for him, so he doesn't see how much I'm struggling. And when he leaves stuff on the magic coffee table, and I need space on the coffee table, I have to move the stuff he left there so I have space...and I put it in the dishwasher instead of piling it on the counter. Poof....magic coffee table! It's just that he's still treating it like I'm only working 5 hours a week and have all the time in the world to clean up after everyone.

I don't think he realizes that he's not doing the dishes....he's the one who puts the block in and hits start, so he's doing the dishes. If he SEES me putting stuff in, he'll say "You don't have to do that...I'll do it tonight before bed." And that sounds really sweet, but it's not practical, because if I don't do it, I don't have counter space to use for meal prep. And things like cleaning the bathroom...I did that while he was out playing Ingress....but the next day, it would have been really nice if he had said "You know what? I had my fun yesterday, why don't I help you with the kitchen." or "Why don't I deal with the mopping and stuff and you take a break...you worked all day yesterday while I was playing." But instead he just says "You rock!" and then expects me to keep doing what I'm doing. He doesn't think to take some of the responsibility on himself so I can have a break, too. He just looks at that as my job, and seems to forget I also work outside the home. I don't think he notices I'm doing more than a 40 hour week between home and outside job, because I used to only work at home, pretty much.

Again, time for a heart to heart conversation. It won't get fixed if you don't communicate with him.
 

Goofyernmost

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Right...but that's the key.....re-investing in the organization. The email says they are putting all that on hold so they can keep the money. I'm wondering if that's allowed. I think there are some churches that do a lot of great work in their communities....like the english classes mentioned, or some offer food banks, etc. But if you are hoarding the money that is meant to fund those things and demanding that people donate more or you won't re-invest, that just seems a bit sketchy to me. People pay tuition to send their kids to the school, so it's not just funded based on weekly offerings from church. And obviously, if you can't run the school on the tuition they charge, they have to increase the price. That's logical, though it seems like a HUGE increase all at once. What I have a problem with is the sort of...almost blackmail situation. We're holding this hostage unless you give us x-number of dollars, etc.
I agree, but, there are many ways around the "large amount" situation. As long as it isn't being used to finance summer homes or large yachts it can all be spread out in smaller units like Future Expansion or Emergency Repair and so on. As long as it is going for the support of the church and it's different ministries it is fine. Again, they are not tax free based on how much income they have, they are tax free because of the separation of church and state part of the constitution. It is classified as a Religion and the founding fathers wanted to make sure that neither the government nor the church were beholding to each other.

Not that it seems to mean anything lately.
 
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Songbird76

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We all have our good and bad points, but it's really important that we care enough about others, to sometimes put our own wishes aside.

In your case, you moved to a different country to be with him, while at the same time, mourning the passing of your mother. Without any time to prepare, you were forced to learn a new language and were (somewhat) shunned by his family for 6 months (or longer), until you could speak their language. :rolleyes:

Sounds to me like you're the generous and more considerate person in this relationship. You deserve your fun days as much as he does, and it's not right for him to put his needs first. That's selfish. I'm sure he's a good man overall, but he also needs to recognize that recreation times need to be shared all around.
Thank you....you're very sweet. He is a really wonderful man, and if I ask for a specific time, he's more than happy to try to make it happen. Like, if there's a movie I want to see, he'll try to work things out so I can go. He knows I deserve fun time, too. I think it's just right now, there've been SO many things for his Ingress, so he's had something every weekend since the new year. And that combined with all the extra stuff like birthdays, I don't think he's realized how much I've done because he hasn't been here to see it. I've made him PROMISE that this weekend is FAMILY weekend and I told him -I- want a date night. He's NOT playing Ingress this week. It's MY time. He's got another Ingress day planned in 2 weeks. :rolleyes: And that's also the weekend of his mom's birthday, which she asked us to help with. So he's going to have to make the next couple of weeks special for me to make up for all the time he's off by himself.
 

Songbird76

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Good grief. You can't win, can you? We have the opposite problem here. My dad the past few weekends has insisted on vacuuming the house. It's nice because my mom doesn't have to vacuum. Except that he uses the upright vacuum and uses the wand. Everywhere. Not just on the hard to reach places. Even though we also have a canister vacuum with a larger wand that is also newer. On the one hand, Mom doesn't have to do it (I currently can't because of my recent procedure). On the other hand, it takes him forever. I end up moving to the other end of the house after a while because I can't stand the noise anymore.

And then talking about doing anything fun besides baseball games and vacation is like pulling teeth. We still haven't gotten him to go to Hershey Park with us. We have free one day tickets and still haven't talked him into it yet. sigh He says he has to do yard work. 🙄
Tell him the yard work will still be there the next week. My husband is kind of a "no working on weekends" person. He views the weekends as fun time, which I agree to an extent...those are time off. But there ARE things that still need to be done. You still have to eat and you can't eat if you don't do grocery shopping or cook. And you kind of need dishes to eat from. You still need clothes, but have to do laundry to have clean ones. But those are all thing that I do during the week, so he doesn't really see them as something he needs to help with on weekends....those are just my duties.
Is there a reason your dad uses the wand instead of the regular vacuum? Does he not realize he CAN use the main part?
 

Songbird76

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Well this is interesting.. a news website is reporting that they are announcing the opening date for WDW Star Wars opening tomorrow morning. They are speculating Sept/Oct.... PLEASE let it be October, I don't want to deal with that type of crowd in September!
Isn't it supposed to be LATE fall? September is late SUMMER/ Early fall....I doubt it will be that soon because if it opens in DLR in June, they are going to want to capitalize on the summer season there before they open it in WDW, right? I guess we'll see, but it makes me wonder who is speculating and what are they basing it on?
 

21stamps

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Right...but that's the key.....re-investing in the organization. The email says they are putting all that on hold so they can keep the money. I'm wondering if that's allowed. I think there are some churches that do a lot of great work in their communities....like the english classes mentioned, or some offer food banks, etc. But if you are hoarding the money that is meant to fund those things and demanding that people donate more or you won't re-invest, that just seems a bit sketchy to me. People pay tuition to send their kids to the school, so it's not just funded based on weekly offerings from church. And obviously, if you can't run the school on the tuition they charge, they have to increase the price. That's logical, though it seems like a HUGE increase all at once. What I have a problem with is the sort of...almost blackmail situation. We're holding this hostage unless you give us x-number of dollars, etc.

@21stamps , you mentioned you wished they had an evening service...have you suggested that? Have you talked to either the church elders, or the school administrators about the scheduling? Maybe they can work something out if they understand your situation and why you can't always make it to the service in your parish. Couldn't hurt to ask, anyway.

I want to be very clear that I do not feel the church is doing anything shady, at all. I’m upset by the tuition and fees hikes.. but I do understand why they are doing it. It’s a good parish with a lot of great offerings and outreach. Our pastor is amazing and has a special place in my heart as he took the time to have lunch with T last year, when T had questions that I couldn’t answer.
The school is at full enrollment right now, but that could change at any time... another recession happens, who knows. Same with envelope giving, times like that are when people have to make more difficult choices when it comes to their money, and church donations can drop as a result. A job loss could result in a family needing to switch schools.
I also understand that less and less people (in general, not just at my church) are attending mass/services on a regular basis, which does impact the amount of money a church brings in.

I would much rather see strong reserves as opposed to a church or school who has to struggle, and worst case, would be forced to close its school. I don’t feel we’re in any danger of that, and I am comforted that our pastor and finance committee is being proactive now instead of later. (Just selfishly annoyed by the impact on me ;) )

We have a 4pm and a 6pm Sunday mass in addition to the morning services, the 4pm is in Spanish.. I would rather a 7 or 7:30pm than those times, but I don’t think that will change right now.
 

Rista1313

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Isn't it supposed to be LATE fall? September is late SUMMER/ Early fall....I doubt it will be that soon because if it opens in DLR in June, they are going to want to capitalize on the summer season there before they open it in WDW, right? I guess we'll see, but it makes me wonder who is speculating and what are they basing it on?

Well the news source was w d w n t .c o m ..... we shall see.... Please let it be AFTER my trip!
 

21stamps

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Isn't it supposed to be LATE fall? September is late SUMMER/ Early fall....I doubt it will be that soon because if it opens in DLR in June, they are going to want to capitalize on the summer season there before they open it in WDW, right? I guess we'll see, but it makes me wonder who is speculating and what are they basing it on?

I’m not ready. I don’t want to book Disney yet. They can push it off to Spring. ;)

Is the Star Wars hotel supposed to open at the same time? Do we have any idea of prices yet?
 

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