The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
Oh that's so nice that they gave you a voucher! I know they lost the luggage, but with the re-routing, it does happen. On our first family trip to Orlando, in 2010, our flight back home was delayed by 7 hours. We were supposed to leave at 5pm, and international flights, checkin was 3 hours early. So we had to be there at 2 and we had to sit in the line for HOURS before they finally told us we were delayed until Midnight. They gave us each a $15 dinner voucher for the airport, and that was the extent of the compensation we got. Because we were delayed so long, we missed our connection in Amsterdam...we had flown out of Dusseldorf, Germany because it's about equal distance as Amsterdam, and it was cheaper. When we landed in Amsterdam, we were told that they didn't have any other flights going to Dusseldorf to put us on, and there were about 30 people on our flight who were going there and had missed their connections. So they chartered a bus for us instead of setting up a new flight or trying to get us on existing flights.

We were to pick up our luggage from carousel 20 and then we'd get on the bus....no time to eat anything, we couldn't stop....just get your luggage and go. Then the luggage never came..they told us they had changed the carousel....so we were led to a different one and everything came out except one of our carseats. (It's illegal not to have your child in a carseat in Germany, so without it, we couldn't get home) We spent an hour and a half waiting for the carseat...everyone was on the bus waiting for us. They had told us we couldn't stop for food, we'd be given sandwiches on the bus. We were finally told we couldn't wait any longer, we needed to board the bus, they lost the carseat. We get on the bus, starving and exhausted...they had distributed the food while we were waiting for the carseat and had given our share out among the people on the bus, so there was nothing left for us. They had broken the clasp on one of the suitcases, and we were facing the prospect of not being able to get home because of the missing carseat. We were very fortunate that we went within about 15 minutes of my in-laws' house in getting to Dusseldorf, so we asked the driver to let the kids off the bus at a gas station where my in-laws could pick them up, as they had carseats, and that way at least the KIDS could be fed as it was now 7pm Dutch time and we hadn't eaten in about 16 hours, and it was another 3 hours to Dusseldorf by bus.

We ended up putting in a claim for compensation because I guess the law says that if your flight is delayed more than 5 hours when the flight is more than 1500 miles, they are required to give you a portion of the costs back, and of course we wanted compensation for the suitcase that was broken, not to mention that we paid for a FLIGHT to Dusseldorf, not a bus ride, but they denied our claim. We got NOTHING. Not a cent. I don't even understand how they could get away with that. They should have at least had to pay for the suitcase.
We ended up getting the carseat back. We called when we got home and they told us it was in Dusseldorf, we could come pick it up. DH told them they had a couple of options. 1, they could buy us a new carseat. 2, they could ship the carseat to us at their expense, since they lost it. 3, they could compensate him for his time lost on his job because he had to go and pick it up from them, and as an engineer, they charge 100 euros an hour for his time, and it's a 2 hour drive each way. So he'd have to take 4 hours off of work to go pick it up. Their choice. They shipped it to us. Worst customer service EVER, though...no compensation for the loss of the one flight, no food or drink, no time to stop and GET food, loss of luggage, broken luggage, and they wanted us to come pick up the thing they lost? We won't fly KLM ever again. Too bad we didn't know about twitter then, or have smartphones to use it. Nowadays, a couple of tweets would shame them into doing something about it.

We have an airline here called U.S Airways, and I didn't know this until it was too late, but when they overbook their smaller jets, they're allowed to just take off whenever enough of their people arrive. So, I was flying and my connection was only twenty or so minutes long. I was already stressed about making the connection because of course they drop you off at the opposite side of the airport than where you board your next flight. The attendant at the gate said not to worry about it because she already called ahead but this is the last flight of the day so of course I'm worried. So I'm running (and I do NOT run in airports) and I'm sweaty and I'm just thinking man I'm going to make it in the knick of time....

Only to get to the gate and be told that the airplane left BEFORE my connection even landed. They left almost a half an hour early. And because I technically "missed" the flight, they didn't put me up or offer compensation or anything. I had to sleep in the terminal and wait for the next day to get a new flight out.
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
Pot Luck doesn't exist in the Netherlands. They call that an "American Party" and that wouldn't be done here for a celebration to honor a group of people...you don't make the honorees do the work. "Here kids....you've worked your tails off....but we can't be bothered with throwing a REAL party, so here...honor yourselves by providing your own food". It's just bad form. Imagine your kid graduating from high school and they say "Yeah...it's just too much work to have a real graduation ceremony....so here's the time you can come pick up your diploma and say goodbye to your fellow classmates and your teachers. If you want any cake or anything, bring it yourself."

And yes, they are that short on space. They made the school WAY too small....they didn't have enough classrooms. They had classes being held above the swimming pool next door because they ran out of classrooms. There is no hall or auditorium, or anywhere to accommodate a large number of people. It's absolutely ridiculous. I'm going to be SO glad to be done with this school.

I don't personally like pot lucks because they food just sits out all day and that's gross to me, but I think the idea of pot lucks is really great. It's like a book club where everyone brings their favorite book instead of all reading the same book. At a pot luck, you get to try favorite dishes and old family recipes from your friends and your family. It only costs you what you put into the dish you bring, but you get a sample buffet of a ton of different foods that you might not have normally tried.
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
Oh that's so nice that they gave you a voucher! I know they lost the luggage, but with the re-routing, it does happen. On our first family trip to Orlando, in 2010, our flight back home was delayed by 7 hours. We were supposed to leave at 5pm, and international flights, checkin was 3 hours early. So we had to be there at 2 and we had to sit in the line for HOURS before they finally told us we were delayed until Midnight. They gave us each a $15 dinner voucher for the airport, and that was the extent of the compensation we got. Because we were delayed so long, we missed our connection in Amsterdam...we had flown out of Dusseldorf, Germany because it's about equal distance as Amsterdam, and it was cheaper. When we landed in Amsterdam, we were told that they didn't have any other flights going to Dusseldorf to put us on, and there were about 30 people on our flight who were going there and had missed their connections. So they chartered a bus for us instead of setting up a new flight or trying to get us on existing flights.

We were to pick up our luggage from carousel 20 and then we'd get on the bus....no time to eat anything, we couldn't stop....just get your luggage and go. Then the luggage never came..they told us they had changed the carousel....so we were led to a different one and everything came out except one of our carseats. (It's illegal not to have your child in a carseat in Germany, so without it, we couldn't get home) We spent an hour and a half waiting for the carseat...everyone was on the bus waiting for us. They had told us we couldn't stop for food, we'd be given sandwiches on the bus. We were finally told we couldn't wait any longer, we needed to board the bus, they lost the carseat. We get on the bus, starving and exhausted...they had distributed the food while we were waiting for the carseat and had given our share out among the people on the bus, so there was nothing left for us. They had broken the clasp on one of the suitcases, and we were facing the prospect of not being able to get home because of the missing carseat. We were very fortunate that we went within about 15 minutes of my in-laws' house in getting to Dusseldorf, so we asked the driver to let the kids off the bus at a gas station where my in-laws could pick them up, as they had carseats, and that way at least the KIDS could be fed as it was now 7pm Dutch time and we hadn't eaten in about 16 hours, and it was another 3 hours to Dusseldorf by bus.

We ended up putting in a claim for compensation because I guess the law says that if your flight is delayed more than 5 hours when the flight is more than 1500 miles, they are required to give you a portion of the costs back, and of course we wanted compensation for the suitcase that was broken, not to mention that we paid for a FLIGHT to Dusseldorf, not a bus ride, but they denied our claim. We got NOTHING. Not a cent. I don't even understand how they could get away with that. They should have at least had to pay for the suitcase.
We ended up getting the carseat back. We called when we got home and they told us it was in Dusseldorf, we could come pick it up. DH told them they had a couple of options. 1, they could buy us a new carseat. 2, they could ship the carseat to us at their expense, since they lost it. 3, they could compensate him for his time lost on his job because he had to go and pick it up from them, and as an engineer, they charge 100 euros an hour for his time, and it's a 2 hour drive each way. So he'd have to take 4 hours off of work to go pick it up. Their choice. They shipped it to us. Worst customer service EVER, though...no compensation for the loss of the one flight, no food or drink, no time to stop and GET food, loss of luggage, broken luggage, and they wanted us to come pick up the thing they lost? We won't fly KLM ever again. Too bad we didn't know about twitter then, or have smartphones to use it. Nowadays, a couple of tweets would shame them into doing something about it.

That sounds like a terrible experience. Too bad about no compensation, sounds like you deserved it. 🙂
 

Songbird76

Well-Known Member
Here’s some various comforting signs along our hikes. :cautious:

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The crazy thing is, they say “don’t climb over the railings”, yet the railings are only at a few points.. none at all when you’re crossing the natural bridges. I’m glad I waited til T was 8 to bring him. I made him walk in front of me in the center. I did climb over quite a few railings.. but I always stayed about 6 inches from the edge.. maybe motherhood or just age has wisened me up to not feeling the need to dangle my legs off the side of a cliff.
Do NOT go over railings...I have a friend who lives in Ireland, near a cliff. She said there are people who are whipped off by the wind every year and die. It's not just getting too close to the edge. The wind there can be really strong, so you're supposed to stay several feet from the edge in case a gust of wind catches you.
 

SteveBrickNJ

Well-Known Member
Do NOT go over railings...I have a friend who lives in Ireland, near a cliff. She said there are people who are whipped off by the wind every year and die. It's not just getting too close to the edge. The wind there can be really strong, so you're supposed to stay several feet from the edge in case a gust of wind catches you.
Where is the location of the photos @21stamps shared?
 

Songbird76

Well-Known Member
We have an airline here called U.S Airways, and I didn't know this until it was too late, but when they overbook their smaller jets, they're allowed to just take off whenever enough of their people arrive. So, I was flying and my connection was only twenty or so minutes long. I was already stressed about making the connection because of course they drop you off at the opposite side of the airport than where you board your next flight. The attendant at the gate said not to worry about it because she already called ahead but this is the last flight of the day so of course I'm worried. So I'm running (and I do NOT run in airports) and I'm sweaty and I'm just thinking man I'm going to make it in the knick of time....

Only to get to the gate and be told that the airplane left BEFORE my connection even landed. They left almost a half an hour early. And because I technically "missed" the flight, they didn't put me up or offer compensation or anything. I had to sleep in the terminal and wait for the next day to get a new flight out.
Oh that's good to know! I've done US airways before...I think our connection to Denver might have been US Airways last time. But I don't understand how they can do that. I mean, you pay for a service and that's a kind of contract. You agree to pay a certain amount for them to take you at the agreed-upon time to the agreed-upon place. If they don't hold up their end of the contract, how is that legal? Isn't that kind of false advertisement? And how was it considered as you missing the flight when your first flight hadn't even landed? I have to wonder how any of these airlines are having financial troubles when they pull stuff like this and don't even have to compensate you.
 

DryerLintFan

Premium Member
No idea. I'm speaking of cliffs in general. The one where my friend lives is in Ireland, and apparently people die every year by going up to a foot or so from the edge and being caught by the wind. They don't necessarily need to get right up to the edge to go over.

I grew up on the beach in California and people died all the time by going over the railings as well. They would watch the ocean, deem it calm enough, go over the railing to get a good look or a cool photo and whammo! Huge wave swept them out to sea or smashed them on the rocks. I'm with you... don't go over railings.
 

93boomer

Premium Member
Sympathy like.
Prayers that between yourself and the doc a solution can be found.
Thank you! Well since this post, I took my bp 7 times in two weeks for my dtr. It was down almost 20 points lower at home. She said to continue on with my current meds. I have another visit in a couple of months. So, hopefully it is just nerves that make it go up at the dtr’s office. I am still watching my sodium intake and eating fresh fruits and veggies, lean protein. Maybe eat out once per week. Keeping fingers crossed.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
The resort is definitely going to lose some of the charm with the new tower same with the Caribbean and the Riviera tower.
Give it about six months and you won't even notice the towers just like you don't really notice the view of the Swan and Dolphin, the Soarin Building and many other things at Epcot that just become part of the background. Humans have a very short attention span and the brain separates the important from the trivial.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Oh that's good to know! I've done US airways before...I think our connection to Denver might have been US Airways last time. But I don't understand how they can do that. I mean, you pay for a service and that's a kind of contract. You agree to pay a certain amount for them to take you at the agreed-upon time to the agreed-upon place. If they don't hold up their end of the contract, how is that legal? Isn't that kind of false advertisement? And how was it considered as you missing the flight when your first flight hadn't even landed? I have to wonder how any of these airlines are having financial troubles when they pull stuff like this and don't even have to compensate you.
I had one experience where the plane took off 20 minutes early. I made it to the gate on time transferring from another flight, but the plane was already gone. Why? Because they scheduled things wrong and the crew would have been over the allotted time if they waited so they left. No compensation, just directions to wait another 3 hours for the next flight to our location. They didn't even say sorry. At the time I was in the busing business and leaving before the published time was a mortal sin and would get you fired. I found it inexcusable, I have never gone on the airline since then and I will not unless not doing so will leave me stranded for months.
 

Songbird76

Well-Known Member
I had one experience where the plane took off 20 minutes early. I made it to the gate on time transferring from another flight, but the plane was already gone. Why? Because they scheduled things wrong and the crew would have been over the allotted time if they waited so they left. No compensation, just directions to wait another 3 hours for the next flight to our location. They didn't even say sorry. At the time I was in the busing business and leaving before the published time was a mortal sin and would get you fired. I found it inexcusable, I have never gone on the airline since then and I will not unless not doing so will leave me stranded for months.
Oh I definitely would prefer to take a road trip, but until we can drive across an ocean, we'll be flying to get to the US. But we drove to DLP, to Germany, to Belgium, etc...all our trips here in Europe have been by car. Flying is a necessary evil. At least it's generally somewhat fast. But I agree with you, I think it's inexcusable to leave early. I look at it as a breech of contract. I pay for a service and I meet the requirements for my end (pay on time, arrive on time, pay the amount agreed upon, etc) then you'd better hold up yours. I really think there ought to be more strict guidelines for airlines. They do it because they can. And I think in our situation, even though the law was on our side, they know that no one is going to go to the expense and time it would take to bring a lawsuit against them for a couple of hundred dollars, so they can get away with it.
 

Cesar R M

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Our stop on the monorail was the California Grill. We had a nice dinner in the Monterrey Room that overlooked Bay Lake and Epcot in the distance. That was a nice switch from the castle view.
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Beer for me, red wine for my friend (I think it was Malbec)
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A short rib appetizer, delicious!
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My friend's main dish was a ramp spaghetti with seafood things in it. She loved it.View attachment 292331

I had the oak fillet with truffled mashed potatoes. This was so good it actually gave me goosebumps after my first couple bites.
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And dessert, the warm chocolate cake with some press pot coffee.
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Then fireworks!
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Oh gods, california grill..
I really want to go again there lol, the food was so good!
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Not a fan of the new construction. I don't like Disney's obsession with building up when they have plenty of space to build out. For me it ruins the whole aesthetic of one of our favourite resorts.
That was my gripe on the building as well.
Because the building looks nothing Mexico or texmex style.

The building looks more of old spain under the muslim rule and doesn't fit a tall tower.

Worst part is right in the middle of everything so its an eyesore.
 
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