The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I'm on the fence, too, though we did have one creepy experience when DD was 2. It was like 9pm and she was supposed to be in bed and she had this toy kitchen and when you turned the knobs on the stove, they clicked. I could hear her turning the knobs even though she was supposed to be in bed. I whispered to DH that I could hear her. Just as I said that, she cried out and I could hear her run back to her bed. There's NO way she could have heard me because we were in our room, across the hall and her bedroom door was closed and I was whispering. So I went in to check on her and she said "The Lady" scared her. I asked what lady and she said there was a lady standing by her dresser. She had long brown hair and was wearing a brown dress and pants under the dress, and the lady told her she was supposed to be sleeping, not playing. So I told her that the lady was right...she WAS supposed to be sleeping, but it wasn't very kind of the lady to scare her and I told the lady that I appreciated that she wanted DD to follow the rules, I would handle it from now on, thank you. Nothing ever happened again. And my best friend said when her daughter was 2 or 3, she wanted to leave a bag of clothes for the little girl who always came at night, because the girl always wore the same clothes and she thought the little girl must not have any others. Who knows if it's just imaginations or if it's real.

Oh Wow! That would have creeped me out. The only oddity I remember is a year after my Sis' best friend died in a small plane crash in the Gulf of NOLA, quite by a change of circumstance she was switched by the group to a different small plane and that was the one that crashed. She was either 16 or 17 years old.

Anywho. When the family packed up her bedroom the Mom gave my Sis her jewelry box as a memory of her best friend. It was musical when you would lift the lid. One year exactly to the day at the same time of the crash my Sis and Mom were in the livingroom. The jewelry box just started playing. The lid was closed, not open. They couldn't shut it off cause the lid was closed. It played for awhile and then stopped on its own.

The jewelry box went into the basement and is still there today. Freak'd them out. I kinda believe in spirits more so than ghosts.
 

donaldtoo

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I'm trying to survive Tuesday. Don't you hate when you wake up at 2am because your body thinks it's 6am and you can't go back to sleep?:(:confused::rolleyes:

Yep, used to happen to me pretty much every night. But, in about the past year or so, I'm not goin' to sleep at 12a-ish and wakin' up at 2a-ish anymore...I'm goin' to sleep at 2a-ish and wakin' up at 4a-ish now...!!! :hilarious: :cyclops: ;)
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Well, my mom was quite a bit older than most moms. She was already almost 40 when she had my brother and I. She was in her 60s when I got married. I don't think it was just a lack of filter with her. But things like...the guy I was dating in college. She was offended by his mother the first time they met. My mom was staunchly Missouri Synod Lutheran and no other denomination was acceptable to her. If we were on vacation and there was no LCMS church, we could go to an ELCA (evangelical Lutheran) or an Episcopal church, but she would not take communion. We could NOT go to a Catholic or Baptist church, etc and I wasn't allowed to set foot in a Mormon church, even if just for an activity and not a service. So my boyfriend's parents were non-denominational, but his mom said she would never allow her children to become Catholic, Lutheran, or Mormon. My mom was with her on the Catholic and Mormon, but was deeply offended by the Lutherans being included in her ban. So she took an immediate dislike to the relationship, which was exacerbated by the fact that I was not happy in the Lutheran church on campus and had stopped going and was looking for another church home. She viewed it as heresy and told me SHE had chosen Lutheran for me, and Lutheran I would remain. I told her my relationship with God was mine and to butt out. She decided it was his influence and she could barely be civil to me. My brother and I lived on the same floor of the same residence hall...just a lobby between us. She came to visit and my brother was working at the coffee shop across the street, so I decided to go there to make it easier on mom...she could find us BOTH there. I left a note on my door telling her where I was when she arrived. My friends and I went over and were sitting there and in walks my mom. She glares and comes and sits down and I said "Oh, good, you got my note." She said "No, I went by your brother's room and when he didn't answer, I figured he was probably here so I just came over. I didn't go to your room." Then she proceeded to pull out a 5 dollar bill, shove it in my friend's face and say "Go get me a coffee." No please, not at all a request, but a command. And this wasn't even my boyfriend...just a random friend, but anyone who was a friend of mine was public enemy #1 in her eyes at that point. He went and got her coffee because he's nice like that (and also, she was scary) and she didn't even thank him. The semester ended on Mother's day and I had invited her out to lunch. I had to move out of one dorm and into another for the Summer, so we were making trips with a luggage cart from one to the one next door...it was only about 15 minutes per trip...load up, walk next door, unload and come back. We were on the last load, I told her I'd be right back and we'd go to lunch. I came back 15 minutes later and no one was there. No note...I thought maybe she was in the bathroom...we waited. 2 hours later, she comes back with my brother and my roommate...they had gone to lunch...they didn't know how long I would be, so they decided not to wait. They hadn't thought to leave us a note so that we could meet them there....they didn't know yet where they were going to go anyway. So she ditched me for my roommate. Like I said...with my mom, you did not make your own decisions or go against what she wanted. You dressed as SHE wanted you to dress, you went to the church SHE chose, you did what SHE wanted or the consequences were severe. While she loved my husband, we never did quite fix our relationship before she died. There was always distance. She was angry that I wouldn't let her control my life, and I wasn't going to give in to her demands. My brother remained the golden child who could do nothing wrong and she could look past things she disapproved of with him in a way that she couldn't when it came to me. She never treated him coldly like she did with me, and she always sided with him on EVERYTHING. My car was burning transmission fluid and wasn't safe to drive...I was waiting until the mechanic could come pick it up. My brother called and asked if he could borrow my car because he needed to take his clothes to the laundromat. (he hadn't had the money to get his OWN car fixed) I explained that my car was broken down. He begged, I told him no. He called my mom. My mom called and read me the riot act, telling me that I wouldn't even be making it in college if it wasn't for him tutoring me. (UM...he knows NOTHING about Music...he was NOT tutoring me, and also...ouch....you really think I'm so dumb I can't possibly succeed on my own?) and how he had always done everything for me and the LEAST I could do is lend him my car. It wasn't like I was using it. I tried to explain that it was not safe and she wouldn't listen. She reminded me that it was her and my dad who had paid to have a rebuilt transmission put in the car on Thanksgiving weekend when I didn't have the money and needed to get back to school, and that I was now obligated to her and SHE wanted him to be able to use the car. I told her FINE, but if it cratered because HE didn't take care of it, HE was paying for the new transmission. So I called him back, told him he needed to check the transmission fluid EVERY TIME he turned it on...even if it was just to drive to the end of the street. There was fluid in the trunk, add it if it's low, which it will be. He assured me he would, yes, thank you so much, I'll get it back to you ASAP. 10 mins later he calls and says "I can't get the car to move!!" I asked...did you check the transmission fluid? "No...I was just going to the laundromat, I didn't think I needed to!" So I told him to put transmission fluid in and bring it back...he wasn't borrowing it. But my mom didn't care what it cost ME...if HE wanted something, I was supposed to give it, no matter what. He could do no wrong in her eyes, and I could do no right...in her eyes, I was being selfish. To her, I was just a constant disappointment because I didn't do things her way. I just didn't measure up. He was her pride and joy and there just wasn't enough pride and joy to cover me, too. My MIL actually enjoys spending time with me...we do things together by choice, not family obligation. And I appreciate that she loves me like a daughter, even though I'm not blood. She loves me in a way that my mother didn't seem able to. I'm very lucky to have her. As much as I loved my mom, and I DO miss her sometimes, I also know we'd never have had a great relationship. She wouldn't approve of how I'm raising my kids and I wouldn't have let her overrule me, so we would have clashed a lot. It's about respect...my mother's idea of respect was the child has to do what the parents want. My idea of respect goes both ways and doesn't involve either of us sacrificing our own happiness or health to please the other.

And that story reminds me so much of my MIL. MIL also had a horrid relationship with her mother. The MIL doesn't take kindly to no or no thank you and she has this look of immediate sadness, frowning and looking down at her lap. One day when her son said no we don't wish to go there, she pronounced that if our family wasn't going to go her other two sons-wives and their kids couldn't go either, it was all of us or nobody. Then she said your choice if you want to say no for the entire family. He lost it...saying he was sick of her manipulating and guilt trips. But we were not going and if she didn't want to take the balance of the family that was on her 'cause it was her twisted rules she made up on the spot. You know me, not much shocks me. I swear I was frozen in place likely not even inhaling. But he always said that was like that all the time between his Mom and Grandmother.

My Dad always wanted to make declarations too, change other peoples plans to suit just him. He wanted to be the Grand Poobah but never was but he kept trying until the day he died. So many times he tried to over rule me with my kids. Giggle, he never learned that it would never ever happen.
 

StarWarsGirl

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Whelp, saw Lion King at the Hippodrome today. It's pretty much the closest you'll get to seeing the Boradway/Vegas version without being in New York/Vegas (it was a Broadway Across America Production). It was fantastic. Cast was great, music was amazing...loved it. And Zazu had a new choice for something with a little "bounce" instead of It's a Small World...Let It Go.

I went with the same friend who went to DL with me. We went to a local pub for dinner. I guess they normally show sports, but they were showing Princess Bride tonight. After all, that has sports. Fencing, fighting, revenge, torture, giants monsters, escapes, true love, miracles...:cautious::joyfull:
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Whelp, saw Lion King at the Hippodrome today. It's pretty much the closest you'll get to seeing the Boradway/Vegas version without being in New York/Vegas (it was a Broadway Across America Production). It was fantastic. Cast was great, music was amazing...loved it. And Zazu had a new choice for something with a little "bounce" instead of It's a Small World...Let It Go.

I went with the same friend who went to DL with me. We went to a local pub for dinner. I guess they normally show sports, but they were showing Princess Bride tonight. After all, that has sports. Fencing, fighting, revenge, torture, giants monsters, escapes, true love, miracles...:cautious::joyfull:

Fun night! Were you feeling any better?
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
He is torn, he gets annoyed with his sisters but doesn't want to disappoint them. He is a people pleaser and would feel guilty not going. He talked to them on Thanksgiving and planted the seed of us not coming. His oldest sister was appalled and couldn't believe we would even think of not coming. She of course also didn't think his break was a big deal because he has a boot not a cast, even though he can't put any weight on it. And never in a million years would she offer to visit here, she complained about how far it was for our wedding. It will work out somehow.
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Cesar R M

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And, you'd never be able to find them in a crowd...! :D ;) View attachment 247031
Just accept it, you guys and gals love the faces! XD

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Yep, used to happen to me pretty much every night. But, in about the past year or so, I'm not goin' to sleep at 12a-ish and wakin' up at 2a-ish anymore...I'm goin' to sleep at 2a-ish and wakin' up at 4a-ish now...!!! :hilarious: :cyclops: ;)


Err, does that count progress or regress?
 

donaldtoo

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I'm lucky with my MIL too, we don't have very much in common, but she's very good to us and I enjoy our visits.

Yep, my MIL and I get along well.
Unfortunately, MIL and FIL divorced about a year before DWifey and I were married. He estranged himself from the family. We saw him again only once after that before he passed about 16 or so years ago. Sad stuff.
Our kiddos are very happy to still have her and my folks in their lives though, as so many their age don't even have that. :(
We're all very thankful...!!! :)
 

Pixieish

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Yep, my MIL and I get along well.
Unfortunately, MIL and FIL divorced about a year before DWifey and I were married. He estranged himself from the family. We saw him again only once after that before he passed about 16 or so years ago. Sad stuff.
Our kiddos are very happy to still have her and my folks in their lives though, as so many their age don't even have that. :(
We're all very thankful...!!! :)
Family can be so tricky...I got the big question tonight about Uncle Mark and why wasn't he at Thanksgiving...my sister is in the middle of a nasty divorce and he's trying to take her for everything he can even though he makes way more than she does. It's ugly.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
That hot chocolate looks so very yum!:hungry::happy: We ordered Giordano's for our Thanksgiving for those who don't eat turkey. It wasn't the same as eating in the restaurant, but it was still good.:)

There are a few that make better Pizza Pies in the Chicagoland area but Giordano's is close to where my DD and I head when we are on the Mag Mile in Chicago. When we had to the zoo in Chicago we head to the Blob Pizza, The Chicago Grinder and eat the Mediterranean Bread, Salad and a Pizza Blob. If we head to Navy pier we head to Bubba Gump and if we are hanging closer to Union Station or arriving around noon it has got to be Manny's Deli. A very old hole in the wall that is beloved by all. Mile high sandwiches and all sort of Jewish yummies from their steam table cafeteria style service.

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and nobody makes better matzo ball soup
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