The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Cesar R M

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And part of the reason I've always had a large Pup living with me. :)() My Pups had different barks that you came to know over time. Walt had one that immediately made me find out what was wrong.

My Sis walking to a crowded bus stop while she was in law school from her apartment around 8am in the morning got grabbed by a guy that started to drag her into a gang way, she screamed and saw people at the stop look right at them and nobody even budged from the bus stop. She managed to break free and ran to the bus stop-nobody even asked if she was OK. Sometimes you are your own best defense.

I look too at some of the aweful things that have happened on military bases. Talk about a place you should feel secure. :cyclops:
I witnessed stuff like this on my last day on Fort Lauderdale. I wonder why some people just do absolutely NOTHING.
Like they are terrified, their brain melted or just plain "I dont give a darn".
 

Cesar R M

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Can you imagine just from the Disney Parks side the data mining? The cross between email address between Disney official websites ie reservations etc and screen names with the same email addresses on twitter. Oy the matches. I wonder how many people like me keep my social media on one address and more confidential on another?

There does seem to be two very different opinions out there if Disney will pull the Twitter trigger or not.
You're smart, I have different "fake" accounts on various social media sites. Also different email address for each of these.
Hell, I sometimes have multiple accounts. Keeping "fun and public" stuff from your private life is a must nowadays.
 
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MinnieM123

Premium Member
This country is unhinged. I'm pretty sick of this. I want to go back to the 50's, it wasn't perfect, but you didn't have to worry about going out and being shot.

Depending on where you live, you still don't, but, I wouldn't be all that sure that stuff didn't happen back then as well, it's just that most of our news was confined to 15 to 30 minute intervals a day. Local was local and national was usually just political and not events that happened around the country. In 1961 two kids from a Catholic "boarding" High School (Seniors) in a very small town in upper, upper New York State made an appointment with a car salesman on a Sunday. When they got there they beat him to death with a car jack just to take the car for a 1 hour ride. Crap happened you just didn't hear about it all that much.

You both have valid points. I think people tend to remember the "good" times over the bad ones; and as the years go by, the bad ones tend to fade more, and the good ones come to mind more often. (Might this be a defense mechanism? I know I tend to think this way at times.)

No doubt, however, that the proliferation of instant media has both helped and hurt at the same time--as most people--whether sane or crazy, hear about the news. Unfortunately, it's a springboard for the demented crowd, and I believe that some are definitely influenced by the horrible deeds of others. Hence, we're also hearing more news these days about evil deeds. Some of the tactics used may be different now, but the question is whether crime is actually happening more than before (also keeping in mind the rise in population from the 50s, for example.)
 

FutureCEO

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The most important thing is to also listen to that "voice" inside your head--if something or someone doesn't seem right, bolt out of there.

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Songbird76

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My youngest had that same dilemma. She married a guy that had two children from a previous marriage and since she came from a two child family that is what she wanted so before she agreed to marry him he had to promise that they could have two kids (as long as there was no physical reason for that not happening). He agreed and then shortly after her first child was born, he abruptly changed his mind and decided that was enough. No discussion, no listen this is how I feel, try and understand, just nope no more.

Me being from the old school was inclined to think... well we all really know who's in charge of that happening if they want it to be and (oh, well) accidents happen. But, she decided to take the high road and not fight it, but, I know that she still harbors at least a mild case of anger and regret about it. Personally, I would have told him to take whatever road he chose, just make sure those support checks arrive on time.
Maybe if I didn't love him, I could have done that. But kids aren't the only thing to our marriage, and I wasn't going to leave because I didn't get my way. I also hoped I'd be able to persuade him someday. We have a very happy marriage...this is the only time he's ever pulled that where he wouldn't even talk about it. If that were a regular occurrence, I'd have been gone a long time ago.
 

Songbird76

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I love the 50's culture but personally I could never go back in time and live there. Being a mixed family, I would never want to live in a time of segregation.
I'm so tempted to post a video, but I'm pretty sure it would qualify as being political, so I shall restrain myself.

You might check out youtube Up and Down Theater's song "Make America Great Again" if you are interested.
 

Goofyernmost

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Maybe if I didn't love him, I could have done that. But kids aren't the only thing to our marriage, and I wasn't going to leave because I didn't get my way. I also hoped I'd be able to persuade him someday. We have a very happy marriage...this is the only time he's ever pulled that where he wouldn't even talk about it. If that were a regular occurrence, I'd have been gone a long time ago.
Your case is a little different. Yours was a pre-marital listing of desires, it wasn't a "promise" made to persuade someone to marry you. With my daughter it was a direct promise and it was broken with no concern over the feelings or the commitment made. She didn't throw him out either, she is still married to him, but, I would have lost all trust in anything he said after that. Not early planning dreams, but, out and out commitments made to another human being and life partner.

Sorry, but, it was like the day my wife left with nothing more then a note that read..."I have left". Yes, you did my dear, and what you did was self centered and uncaring about my feelings, my dreams or our commitment to one another. So, there was no turning back for me, I was no longer thought of as an important person in the life of the person that I fell in love with. I no longer could feel that she cared even one tiny bit about me. That I couldn't honestly get past.
 

Songbird76

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We mutually agreed on three. Sometimes I think we are a bit nieve when we make such long term plans. After the rought time I had with #1 he could have been an only. I was 5 years older when the next one came along and she had her days and nights mixed. I can still remember 3 straight nights of never going to bed. I didn't get over trying to take care of a 5 year old by day and an infant by night and repeat. When time approached for the now or never I just couldn't. I spoke to my husband about it and he happily ran off to do something permanent about my thoughts. Sometimes a revised plan works out. When we were so young and had such happy plans the 'other' stuff never was considered, just the lovely thoughts, the gift of being young.

I can see both sides of your DD and her husband. She got cheated kinda. He on the other hand all of sudden had three to provide for and educate etc. 4 could be overwhelming when the bliss wears off and reality settles in.
Well a revised plan can work, sure...but you have to DISCUSS revising the plan. It can't be just one person's decision. And the fact that he promised and then went back on that, and didn't even consider her opinion or feelings on the matter...that's not how marriage is supposed to work. If he was worried about it, he should have brought it up with her, not just decided FOR her. That is not a marriage/partnership. That's what upset me about my husband...it's not that I was unwilling to discuss it and possibly revise the plan. But I wasn't given the chance to even voice my opinion or feelings on the matter...it was decided for me like he was in charge and I was the child begging for a puppy. Like I said, if he had done that regularly with things, that would be an unhealthy dynamic and we'd have to seriously reconsider our commitment to each other. I'd have been gone if he wasn't willing to treat me as a partner.
 

Songbird76

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You both have valid points. I think people tend to remember the "good" times over the bad ones; and as the years go by, the bad ones tend to fade more, and the good ones come to mind more often. (Might this be a defense mechanism? I know I tend to think this way at times.)

No doubt, however, that the proliferation of instant media has both helped and hurt at the same time--as most people--whether sane or crazy, hear about the news. Unfortunately, it's a springboard for the demented crowd, and I believe that some are definitely influenced by the horrible deeds of others. Hence, we're also hearing more news these days about evil deeds. Some of the tactics used may be different now, but the question is whether crime is actually happening more than before (also keeping in mind the rise in population from the 50s, for example.)
I kind of wish they would limit some of the news though. My daughter gets really upset about things she sees on the news. They watch the news at school and it's a watered down version, but still plenty scary. Last year, she came home all upset and had nightmares because of the Syrian refugees...I don't know how much you got of that in the US, but over here, it was an every day thing that they reported on another boat sinking and this many people drowning, trying to get to somewhere safe. Then there was a story about a toddler who fell overboard on an overcrowded boat and his body washed up on the shore. They showed that image for days and DD was really haunted by that. I think it's good for kids to understand what's going on in the world, but there are some things that a 9 year old just isn't capable of processing. You've got to put it in a way that they understand the gravity without being traumatized by it.
 

Songbird76

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Your case is a little different. Yours was a pre-marital listing of desires, it wasn't a "promise" made to persuade someone to marry you. With my daughter it was a direct promise and it was broken with no concern over the feelings or the commitment made. She didn't throw him out either, she is still married to him, but, I would have lost all trust in anything he said after that. Not early planning dreams, but, out and out commitments made to another human being and life partner.

Sorry, but, it was like the day my wife left with nothing more then a note that read..."I have left". Yes, you did my dear, and what you did was self centered and uncaring about my feelings, my dreams or our commitment to one another. So, there was no turning back for me, I was no longer thought of as an important person in the life of the person that I fell in love with. I no longer could feel that she cared even one tiny bit about me. That I couldn't honestly get past.
I can understand that. My best friend's husband lied to her to get her to marry him. She wanted a big family and he told her he couldn't wait, and then when they got married, he kept finding excuses why it was never a good time. Finally she confronted him and he admitted that he had never wanted children, but he knew she would never marry him if he told her that. He also promised to adopt her daughter from a previous relationship and the girl was so excited to have a daddy, and then when he married my best friend, he said he didn't need to make it official. He did eventually relent on having their own and they have one daughter together. I would have left him a long time ago for the same reason you mentioned...you can't trust anything he says. He lied about so many things to get her to marry him. But for my situation, it wasn't a lie, he just changed his feelings and never discussed them with me so we could work it out.
 

Gabe1

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I kind of wish they would limit some of the news though. My daughter gets really upset about things she sees on the news. They watch the news at school and it's a watered down version, but still plenty scary. Last year, she came home all upset and had nightmares because of the Syrian refugees...I don't know how much you got of that in the US, but over here, it was an every day thing that they reported on another boat sinking and this many people drowning, trying to get to somewhere safe. Then there was a story about a toddler who fell overboard on an overcrowded boat and his body washed up on the shore. They showed that image for days and DD was really haunted by that. I think it's good for kids to understand what's going on in the world, but there are some things that a 9 year old just isn't capable of processing. You've got to put it in a way that they understand the gravity without being traumatized by it.

Me, I see no problem with the news addressing exactly what is happening. Me< I question more the administrators of the school for subjecting young students with overwhelming reports and images. Our school system informed all parents the day after 9/11 that the school would stick to cirriculm and not address 9/11 at the Elementary level schools and they would leave that to parents descression at home.
 

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