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Goofyernmost

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It's not to late... do it now! Make up for lost time since no one will be around to tell you to stop.
 

JenniferS

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I love this pic from FB.
This is my youngest brother's FIL, George, and his dog Tyson, watching the Canadian Juniors defeat the Slovakians.

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Even funnier, is his other dog Roxy, who hates hockey and always hides in the laundry room until it's all over.
 
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Cesar R M

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A few food and chemicals that are bad for you.

1. Palm oil
2. Sugar and Salt
3. PCB’s (common in fish oil pills)
4. rbST (article growth hormone)
5. High fructose corn syrup
6. Soy
7. Coffee (bad for the environment)
8. Bisphenol A (canned food)
9. GMO
10.Bluefin Tuna
11.Microwave Popcorn
12.Nonorganic Fruit/Potatoes/Veggies
13.Farmed Salmon
14.Processed Meats
15.Red Meats
16.Margarine
17.Veggie Oil (coconut oil is the best)
18.Aspartame (diet soda/diet anything)
19.Food Dye...I know Velveeta Mac and Cheese replaced their yellow food dye with a natural one.
20.Non stick cookware
21.Plastic

There most likely a lot more. Most of these chemicals are banned around the world. And obviously you can't get away from everything (plastic/bed sheets unless you go organic), furniture (I never heard of organic furniture before).

I dont think sugar and salt are bad, only in excess and when using the purified versions. (sea salt and unrefined sugar are better for example)
Soy is good, just the crap they make with it is bad (aka the fake meat version which is extra dried and made into a shell of what soy is)
Bluefin themselves arent bad. The mercury in them is the problem.
The older the fish, the more mercury. hence why many countries just prefer to farm yellow tail tuna and other younger fishes.
Margarine is a toss imho. Because while it has less cholesterol, they have way more saturated fats than normal butter.
Food dye is definitively cancerigen. Specially the bright colors RED and YELLOW.
They even used to warn about heating food in containers of McDonald or KFC (the oils would get mixed with the dye chemicals, and they are very toxic).
Some plastics too.. release chemicals when heated and mixed with oils and water.




Microwave popcorn is more related to the fake butter, which can actually destroy your breathing thingies in your lungs.
 

Cesar R M

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Damm, at least now we know why people keep dying. It's living that is killing us. Wait a minute though, didn't I read someplace that people died before any of that chemical stuff existed and absolutely everything was organic? And weren't they a lot younger then we have made it too? I guess that there is just no way to get out of this life alive.
You're confusing 2 different things.
Years ago, we didn't know WHAT caused a lot of illness. And medicine was still evolving. Medicine was also way too based on religion and ridiculous myths.
Now medicine and quality of life have increased A LOT. which lets people live longer.. the problem is, more and more things that are fabricated.. are found to be dangerous in bigger quantities or when ingested.
 

MinnieM123

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As a side note of my own... I once met Maria von Trapp in a business type setup. Believe me when I tell you the whiskers on kittens may be one of her favorite things, but, people where not high on her list. There are many pictures of her smiling. I didn't personally experience it. She made my grumpy disposition seem, comparatively, as light as a feather. :joyfull: I know, that sounded a little harsh, but, just using Julie Andrews to play her in the movie was a giant leap in artistic license. I suppose having had the Nazi's after you, would make one a little less then cheery.

Your experience with her "personality" was not at all uncommon. I've also heard a number of stories about her over the years as well. (Guess I'll give her credit for what she went through in her younger years, and her business skills later on, and just leave it at that.)
 

MinnieM123

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Damm, at least now we know why people keep dying. It's living that is killing us. Wait a minute though, didn't I read someplace that people died before any of that chemical stuff existed and absolutely everything was organic? And weren't they a lot younger then we have made it too? I guess that there is just no way to get out of this life alive.

Or, in other words, I guess we all live to die? :confused: :hilarious: :D Makes sense. Never thought of it that way. You always add a unique perspective that contributes to our knowledge. :p
 

Goofyernmost

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You're confusing 2 different things.
Years ago, we didn't know WHAT caused a lot of illness. And medicine was still evolving. Medicine was also way too based on religion and ridiculous myths.
Now medicine and quality of life have increased A LOT. which lets people live longer.. the problem is, more and more things that are fabricated.. are found to be dangerous in bigger quantities or when ingested.
I wouldn't argue with that for a moment. I would, however, add to it a little. Yes, we have far more sophisticated medical knowledge now they what was available back then. We also had plagues, massive pestilence problems and all that health food, organically grown back then. How does one argue that all those improvements and extended life span happened during the time when we were using chemicals to preserve our food and keep the insect populations down to a manageable number.

I might be wrong, but, those of us born in the late 40's have been, overall, more healthy and had less problems then today's super health conscience population does. The numbers aren't in yet. It appears that those of us that were born during that era are dying off now, but, we are also either entering or deeply encased in old age. Or at least what is considered old age for humans. Everyone one today has respiratory problems, allergies, and at the same time are obsessed with keeping their world, and everyone else's, free of all bacteria, yet are always either sick or at the very least, imagining that they are. It seems like everyone now is on some sort of "spectrum". If it was chemically induced shouldn't we have been more affected then today's generation. We lived in houses that were absolutely blue with cigarette smoke, yet do we have a disproportionate amount of illness due to that? And with no concern about the blatant use of chemicals in our lives. Our mothers smoked and drank during pregnancy and yet I'm not sure that the infant mortality rate was much higher then, then now. It surely was back when everyone was having home births. We grew up in a world that was so unconcerned about air pollution that cities were virtually invisible due to smog. Yet, we are still surviving. Yes, we will die because that is the cycle of life and one that I hope continues because it makes me ill to think that I might have to pay taxes for hundreds of years. :jawdrop::joyfull:

The preceding was a open display of my opinion on life and matters that seem to be questionable when it comes to just how much say we have in our life span or how much influence our way of life has on it. It seems that today's "scholars" will research anything and slant their findings in a manner that will support there own hypothesis. (there's usually grant money connected to the findings) We, in awe of all that scholarly stuff, accept their findings and run with it. Why because until someone else comes along and has a different hypothesis that contradicts the first one, what else do we have to go on. Case in point, look how many times opinion has fluctuated about the good or the bad of eating eggs. It has gone from bad to good to bad to good more times then Justin Bieber has done something stupid. End of current rant... I'm sure there will be more to follow, just on different subjects.:)
 

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Cesar R M

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I wouldn't argue with that for a moment. I would, however, add to it a little. Yes, we have far more sophisticated medical knowledge now they what was available back then. We also had plagues, massive pestilence problems and all that health food, organically grown back then. How does one argue that all those improvements and extended life span happened during the time when we were using chemicals to preserve our food and keep the insect populations down to a manageable number.

I might be wrong, but, those of us born in the late 40's have been, overall, more healthy and had less problems then today's super health conscience population does. The numbers aren't in yet. It appears that those of us that were born during that era are dying off now, but, we are also either entering or deeply encased in old age. Or at least what is considered old age for humans. Everyone one today has respiratory problems, allergies, and at the same time are obsessed with keeping their world, and everyone else's, free of all bacteria, yet are always either sick or at the very least, imagining that they are. It seems like everyone now is on some sort of "spectrum". If it was chemically induced shouldn't we have been more affected then today's generation. We lived in houses that were absolutely blue with cigarette smoke, yet do we have a disproportionate amount of illness due to that? And with no concern about the blatant use of chemicals in our lives. Our mothers smoked and drank during pregnancy and yet I'm not sure that the infant mortality rate was much higher then, then now. It surely was back when everyone was having home births. We grew up in a world that was so unconcerned about air pollution that cities were virtually invisible due to smog. Yet, we are still surviving. Yes, we will die because that is the cycle of life and one that I hope continues because it makes me ill to think that I might have to pay taxes for hundreds of years. :jawdrop::joyfull:

The preceding was a open display of my opinion on life and matters that seem to be questionable when it comes to just how much say we have in our life span or how much influence our way of life has on it. It seems that today's "scholars" will research anything and slant their findings in a manner that will support there own hypothesis. (there's usually grant money connected to the findings) We, in awe of all that scholarly stuff, accept their findings and run with it. Why because until someone else comes along and has a different hypothesis that contradicts the first one, what else do we have to go on. Case in point, look how many times opinion has fluctuated about the good or the bad of eating eggs. It has gone from bad to good to bad to good more times then Justin Bieber has done something stupid. End of current rant... I'm sure there will be more to follow, just on different subjects.:)

I honestly think it depends on where you lived.
Pretty sure the mortality rates in the 40ths weren't exactly blamed on illnesses or food quality, but of wars.
Also, they had horrible air quality and pollution in big towns and cities around big factories. This was before the "clean" environment laws were up.
Also, kids during the industrial revolution died a lot. As they were used for cheap and dangerous labour.

The other issue of the current world is the overmedication of the "first world" countries. Where they get saturate themselves with medicine over anything that is not even needed.
Our bodies arent designed to work like a walking pharmacy. Our bodies are designed to slowly adapt, survive, build defences and if not.. die.
A walking pharmacy will only weaken us in the long run.

Then, We also have to remember that most "chemicals" are actually in nature. Just produced via plants or by our planet in smaller quantities. People think that because something is a "chemical", Its a dangerous element created in a lab against the natural balance of the planet.


Also, I apologize for my messy posts of yesterday. I think I posted them right before bed at 3:00 am.
 

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