The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Five to ten pounds of spuds??!!! Yikes. You cook for an army over there! If I make it, it's just maybe 3-4 potatoes at the most, and that gives us leftover for about 2 more meals (side dish, that is).

Wish I could find chives. I like chives in potato salad. Too early for those too, I guess. (When I was a kid, the neighbor next to our house used to grow chives in the backyard. My brothers and I used to sneak over there and eat some, straight from the garden, compliments of the neighbor. Although, the neighbor didn't have a clue who kept eating all the chives . .. :cautious: :p )

My Chive has been up and over a foot tall for a couple of months, that stuff is hearty. Did you look in the veggie dept where they keep refrigerated herbs in paste tubes and clear plastic boxes of fresh herbs? They are usually up high in cooling units.
 

MOXOMUMD

Well-Known Member
I tried that many times. It will start uploading the picture, then after a few minutes a black box with the message that there was a error uploading the file in red and under that a line that says there was a problem uploading the file. I tried the media icon and it asks for a url or something like that.
Is the pic not jpg, jpeg or png? Sometimes it may say you have to wait so many seconds and try again. I'm sure this was answered already.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Hmm, so let me explain why it doesn't make us sad (and I completely respect your opinion on this). Have you actually sat on the grass? It is very natural feeling, and the type used is actually cooler than regular grass. I do understand that people miss the trees in the inner part of the hub. I get it as I've been there when they were there as well, having started going in 1978. However, one has to remember that the nightly shows today weren't nightly 20 or 30 years ago. Most weeks, even during the summer, the fireworks were only twice a week. Over the last several years, there were many complaints about the crowding in the hub for the fireworks, and how the trees were blocking the views, and how there was gridlock in the hub. Disney's answer was the expanded hub. While no answer to the problem was going to be perfect, we believe that the route they took was the best they could do under the circumstances. And please remember that when the trees were first planted, they didn't provide much shade either. It took years for them to grow up and provide the pictures that people post from the 90's. The new trees will do the same in the future.

Oh, and you do realize that while they don't have separate benches, they have built-in benches all along some of the low walls for people to sit? Are they under trees lie they used to be? Well, no, I agree that shade is missing, but since people wanted the nightly fireworks shows, there was little else they could do. They have at least replanted trees around the outside of the new hub, and when they grow in, it will be quite lush.

Yeah, I see what you are trying to say really I do but I don't agree with it.

Disney's statistics are very fuzzy and we all have heard the Disney excuse ad nauseum guest complaints and guests requested as their go to mantra. Many of us have participated in those surveys that boot you out as not being the proper demographic when the a trigger question is answered incorrectly but they do thank you for trying to participate. I'm just not as gullible as Disney tends to believe guests are. I do believe a piece of the puzzle was to garner more income from guests with their additional hard tickets.Its not like we don't stand in the paths in the Studios or at Epcot for their night time events. The hub still has not fixed the problem of too many guests in a small area and just made it worse by taking a chunk away from general guests for their hard ticket area. It is still difficult for families with smaller kids to view anything beyond the tushies of the adults in front of them. You still have parents needing to elevate their kids to see and you still have guests unhappy about kids being lifted to view. What did work was additional revenue.

At the MK Disney just needed more square footage to expand their dessert party hard ticket offerings. The bypass during heavy traffic times was a good solution for foot traffic during show times. IMO Disney just created their own nightmare with 2 night time shows that need to cram an over capacity crowd into the main traffic pattern to enter and exit a park or between lands. One nightly show wasn't working well, solution put 2 shows there. At least with Fantasmic it was imagineered to have a safe capacity and at Epcot they were bright enough not to have shows at the main entrance and using SSE for their night time entertainment.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
Yeah, we're not allowed to do that here. It's against the law to take your kids out of school for a vacation. Your children are obligated to be in school when it's in session unless they are sick or have special permission from the school. The school is required to give them one day free for the wedding or funeral of an immediate family member or grandparent, but that's it. We got 2 days approved for our 12.5 year anniversary (that's the big one here), but I know other people have had problems when they want to get 5 days to go visit family who lives abroad. So we just don't have that option. It HAS to be in a school vacation and the only vacations long enough to go to the US are Christmas and Summer. Sometimes we get 2 weeks in May, but not always. I HAVE to be a good planner. It's our only option.

Law here I always had them out less than the maximum. It was against the school board policy. I didn't care and a board of ed elected official. As they got older it was harder and high school teachers were more difficult. My solution, I lied. I believed in family time and not everyone can bid and get approved vacation time over holidays or summer, sometimes adult schedules and student schedules collide.
Amazingly they never fell behind, they didn't start ditching school, both got good grades and both graduated from their Universities and have good careers despite all the gloom and doom that was projected my way.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
There wasn't one which was part of they problem with the hub area. It might as well have been a sardine can. To expand the viewing area for not only the fireworks, but, the castle projections it needed to have some open space. The only way that could be accomplished is by paving it over or using artificial grass. Real grass would have quickly ended up as I described it. The hub was a pleasant space, I don't deny that, but, it wasn't designed for sitting around looking at air particles pass by. It's real function was to have a simple outlet to go to the other lands, not to congregate. With the introduction of more Castle based shows it needed expansion and that is what we got. And I still feel that they spared nothing to make it as pleasant and eye appealing as anyone could expect. Call Disney cheap, but, I bet all of us would like to have what they spent to redo the hub in our personal bank accounts.

The problem isn't a lack of grass to stand on. It is a lack of adequate square footage to facilitate the amount of guests allowed to be in attendance at any given attraction. Hub was over capacity and still is over capacity. Poor planning and poor imagineering. They can continue to throw money at the problem but it will not solve the congestion.

I'm sure any change or addition to the Parks could be equated to instead putting it in personal bank accounts. That is not a valid rubric for analyzing the success of any type of project.
 

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