The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

betty rose

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id sign for it, specially for smell.

I have very good sense of smell :p
Me too, I smelled a gas leak in our basement 2 years before anyone else in the family. I would go down and do laundry, and always come upstairs with a headache. Hubby couldn't smell it or DD. I complained enough, and hubby called out a gas person from the gas company, he used liquid soap on the gas joints, in the basement.....sure enough we had a leak. Fortunately it was far enough from the washer and dryer, so nothing exploded! Our new home, over 20 years ago, had a gas fireplace, I could smell gas in the hallway, hubby couldn't....long story short. We shut off the gas, and installed electric. Much better for me!:happy:
 

betty rose

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I love my boys but sometimes they are yucky. They just got a nice fresh bathroom on Sunday and I went in there today and :hungover::hungover::hungover::hungover::hungover: YUCK! There was even toothpaste on the freshly painted wall:rolleyes::cautious: I went through it with bleach, it's nice and clean at least until they get home:hilarious::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
My DD figured out what each Grandson hated for punishment, oldest hates germs, so he has to clean the bathrooms, youngest hates math, so he gets math problems. Oldest keeps the bathroom much cleaner, and youngest tries to stay in line. It works really well. Oldest doesn't want a dirty bathroom to clean up, and youngest doesn't want to many more math problems!
 

betty rose

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Boy this is a good subject for a debate. Both sides have very valid points. I also understand the tax referendums being turned down. We knew ours would 2 years ago but the parent teacher body pushed and believed it would pass. It didn't and by a lot.

Many households are still on shaky ground financially still trying to recover and many believe it can happen again. Raising their property taxes is a financial decision each voter takes to heart, most don't hate the schools, many are just on fixed incomes or have stretched their budgets as far as they can. Flip side a great school district increases your property values as do good parks and police and fire departments.

There is mixed emotion about how a brand new teacher is paid the same way there is mixed emotion about all new professionals straight out of college are paid. In the USA there are few professionals that are granted the time off that teachers are over several holiday breaks and summer. Flip many use this time to acquire higher degrees. Flip to that so do other professionals in different fields.

It is just not a black or white issue. I tend to listen to facts from both administration and the employees. And sort in my mind the blah blah blah from each and dig to get to heart of it. It is annoying to boards to have slanted statistics presented to us. We had a Union present to us the base salary of our district to the district next to us. Next to us was considerably higher. The data was correct but misleading. Their salaries included 2 extra duty assignments (door or bus duty generally, start and end of day) We break our 2 extra duty assignments away from base salary and pay a specific stipend for that. It is just different accounting. In the end when I asked administration to add in the stipends that the other district did we actually paid slightly more than the district next to us. Statistics are a funny funny thing, it is all how they are spun.

I can't find 2014 but here is the year before Average starting salaries by state. It is was posted by NEA.

http://www.nea.org/home/2012-2013-average-starting-teacher-salary.html
We are on a fixed income, as retired...but my parents (they didn't earn much), instilled in us that public schools, and the money for teachers is important. I will always support public schools, as so many, can't afford private schools. Just my opinion. I can understand the other side, too. I'm hoping the grandsons , get a fair education. It seems they are not, DD home schools them during the summer, so they fully understand what was presented during the year. Our teacher's mostly focus on the required State and Federal tests. So the kids do well, and they keep (the teacher's) keep their jobs.
 

betty rose

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My life is going to get a little crazy starting tomorrow! My dh's project starts at 5am tomorrow and he's not a morning person. I think his boss might have been right about him needing a cot at work, all I know is I have to have him up out of bed and moving enough to get out of the house with his food for the day packed up. To make things even more interesting he got on the new scale and decided he needs to get serious about dropping some weight before we go on vacation next summer, so he wants me to pack him healthy foods for work. Wish me luck I'm going to need it
You are the queen of healthy foods. I would love to live at your house a year to get more healthy. If he doesn't eat what you pack, give it to him again, for dinner!;):rolleyes::D
 

betty rose

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My life is going to get a little crazy starting tomorrow! My dh's project starts at 5am tomorrow and he's not a morning person. I think his boss might have been right about him needing a cot at work, all I know is I have to have him up out of bed and moving enough to get out of the house with his food for the day packed up. To make things even more interesting he got on the new scale and decided he needs to get serious about dropping some weight before we go on vacation next summer, so he wants me to pack him healthy foods for work. Wish me luck I'm going to need it
You are the queen of healthy foods. I would love to live at your house a year to get more healthy. If he doesn't eat what you pack, give it to him again, for dinner!;):rolleyes::D
 

ajrwdwgirl

Premium Member
We are on a fixed income, as retired...but my parents (they didn't earn much), instilled in us that public schools, and the money for teachers is important. I will always support public schools, as so many, can't afford private schools. Just my opinion. I can understand the other side, too. I'm hoping the grandsons , get a fair education. It seems they are not, DD home schools them during the summer, so they fully understand what was presented during the year. Our teacher's mostly focus on the required State and Federal tests. So the kids do well, and they keep (the teacher's) keep their jobs.

Thanks for supporting public schools! :)
 

Songbird76

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Boy this is a good subject for a debate. Both sides have very valid points. I also understand the tax referendums being turned down. We knew ours would 2 years ago but the parent teacher body pushed and believed it would pass. It didn't and by a lot.

Many households are still on shaky ground financially still trying to recover and many believe it can happen again. Raising their property taxes is a financial decision each voter takes to heart, most don't hate the schools, many are just on fixed incomes or have stretched their budgets as far as they can. Flip side a great school district increases your property values as do good parks and police and fire departments.

There is mixed emotion about how a brand new teacher is paid the same way there is mixed emotion about all new professionals straight out of college are paid. In the USA there are few professionals that are granted the time off that teachers are over several holiday breaks and summer. Flip many use this time to acquire higher degrees. Flip to that so do other professionals in different fields.

It is just not a black or white issue. I tend to listen to facts from both administration and the employees. And sort in my mind the blah blah blah from each and dig to get to heart of it. It is annoying to boards to have slanted statistics presented to us. We had a Union present to us the base salary of our district to the district next to us. Next to us was considerably higher. The data was correct but misleading. Their salaries included 2 extra duty assignments (door or bus duty generally, start and end of day) We break our 2 extra duty assignments away from base salary and pay a specific stipend for that. It is just different accounting. In the end when I asked administration to add in the stipends that the other district did we actually paid slightly more than the district next to us. Statistics are a funny funny thing, it is all how they are spun.

I can't find 2014 but here is the year before Average starting salaries by state. It is was posted by NEA.

http://www.nea.org/home/2012-2013-average-starting-teacher-salary.html
I think the one for Wyoming...most teachers must have masters degrees then, because it was sure not NEARLY that high 10 years before this list was published and the starting for a person with a masters was around 40k, so that's about right.
 

Gabe1

Ivory Tower Squabble EST 2011. WINDMILL SURVIVOR
I met a former member of this site (not from this thread or the WITWIBS thraed) shortly after I joined because we were at EP on the same day. Let's just say the person was "odd", to put it politely, and I only felt comfortable enough to use my screen name and an ADR excuse to leave after fifteen minutes. I never posted anything to them after that and a few months later they left the site after arguing with another member. Anywho, even though we are all wdwmagic members, you have to be careful and comfortable with whom you want to meet.

I wholeheartedly agree. Some people here and elsewhere I know well and we've at times celebrated joyous times in our life's and also been to heck and back with the support of a small demographic of members overall. I really liked the December MouseFest meet ups for a week in early December that unfortunately ended around a decade ago. Not that you didn't have to still use caution however you were generally meeting a crowd at Space Mountain, lunch at Earl all in posted large groups hosted by specific members from specific Disney fan websites. All Ears has some good archives on Mousefest that was a spin off of the annual RADP (rec.arts.disney.parks) meet that I believe lives on.
 

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