The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Lilofan

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Definitely not trying to laugh at cancer itself and its impacts. My family as well has been touched by it.

But it’s certainly jarring to come from a place where cancer warnings are reserved for things like cigarettes and alcohol, and to see it on something as basic as a small snow globe. Or all over Disneyland. Without any context.
Some see warning label on paint cans and don't care. Some may see warning labels in CA and may think about their children and or ones battling this terrible illness. The laughing part is what got me to offer feedback.
 

Goofyernmost

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When it comes to cancer I would guess that in some way everything causes cancer if it is looked at closely enough. Why wasn't I warned that being male and having a prostate gland can cause you to have cancer. I don't know of any outside exposure caused mine, but the government feels that my possible exposure to agent orange may have been the cause.

Let's face it life is life. If we spend the whole time dodging everything the may or may not cause cancer, what a dreadful life it would be. I have that cancer and although it is active, it fortunately is about as active as I am. Nine years now and although it is being monitored every six months it is still not even close to a life threatening thing, but I have to be reminded about it twice a year. The few days leading up to the PSA blood tests is when the dread comes in. Will this be when it kicks into high gear or remains at a snails pace. If I were to become obsessed with the idea that cancer is in my body they would have put me in a padded room by now. Twice a year I have to take it seriously and everytime I read about someone dying of Prostate Cancer a little twinge fires up in me. Right now the side affects of trying to eliminate it is far worse then just living with it.

My opinion is that there are some things that just cannot be wished away. One might lower the possibility by our actions, but in the end we all have to die of something and it is so boring to just die of old age. You get no sympathy for that. Now that I have reached the age of not being possible to die young it all seems so much more real. I can, however, not need to worry about it and can find that all though not really funny, it also isn't something that would offend me. I sometimes think that once you have participated in a war one's outlook and sensitivity to things like that decreases.
 
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John park hopper

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This is just my opinion but I think the human bodies immune system though a marvel it was not designed to handle all the man made chemicals used in todays society --on our food, on our clothes, in building materials etc. Was the rate of cancer lower 300 years ago my gut feeling is yes (have no proof)
 

Goofyernmost

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This is just my opinion but I think the human bodies immune system though a marvel it was not designed to handle all the man made chemicals used in todays society --on our food, on our clothes, in building materials etc. Was the rate of cancer lower 300 years ago my gut feeling is yes (have no proof)
I'd have to say that first, there were a lot less people in that time and most of them died at 35 normally. I feel that some of those chemicals are what have enabled us to have an average life span of 78 years or more. Since there really wasn't enough medical science around until the middle of the 1900's no one knew who died of cancer, because they couldn't be checking everyone that died to find out why they died. They just accepted, like we do, that we have a good chance to live to 78 but after that it's anybody's guess.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
All these insane warning labels are just to reduce companies liabilities if you are injured using their product.
I looked up what Prop 65 was originally intended for.

It was intended to get companies to stop polluting water sources. Makes sense. Then it was later used to get companies to get rid of certain chemicals in their products (like lead).

Frivolous lawsuits have caused the warnings to be on everything.

It was never meant as a warning for consumers but as a way to make companies to stop doing things. Unfortunately, it's just costing money in frivolous lawsuits a bunch of the time.

And yes, walking into the Happiest Place on Earth and seeing a sign that says "This might give you cancer" is indeed hilarious.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
This is just my opinion but I think the human bodies immune system though a marvel it was not designed to handle all the man made chemicals used in todays society --on our food, on our clothes, in building materials etc. Was the rate of cancer lower 300 years ago my gut feeling is yes (have no proof)
I mean, who knows if it was lower or of people were dying and they just didn't know from what. Or if their immune system got weak from a cancer and then an illness took them out.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
When it comes to cancer I would guess that in some way everything causes cancer if it is looked at closely enough. Why wasn't I warned that being male and having a prostate gland can cause you to have cancer. I don't know of any outside exposure caused mine, but the government feels that my possible exposure to agent orange may have been the cause.

Let's face it life is life. If we spend the whole time dodging everything the may or may not cause cancer, what a dreadful life it would be. I have that cancer and although it is active, it fortunately is about as active as I am. Nine years now and although it is being monitored every six months it is still not even close to a life threatening thing, but I have to be reminded about it twice a year. The few days leading up to the PSA blood tests is when the dread comes in. Will this be when it kicks into high gear or remains at a snails pace. If I were to become obsessed with the idea that cancer is in my body they would have put me in a padded room by now. Twice a year I have to take it seriously and everytime I read about someone dying of Prostate Cancer a little twinge fires up in me. Right now the side affects of trying to eliminate it is far worse then just living with it.

My opinion is that there are some things that just cannot be wished away. One might lower the possibility by our actions, but in the end we all have to die of something and it is so boring to just die of old age. You get no sympathy for that. Now that I have reached the age of not being possible to die young it all seems so much more real. I can, however, not need to worry about it and can find that all though not really funny, it also isn't something that would offend me. I sometimes think that once you have participated in a war one's outlook and sensitivity to things like that decreases.
I am very much of the same opinion. You'll see cancer survivors who go overboard with eliminating chemicals from their homes and from their foods and such, and there's no guarantee that will keep you from getting another cancer or from your cancer recurring. This is very much a trauma response, but anyway.

I've taken certain precautions because of the history and because I'm now at higher risk for other cancers. I only get dental X-rays every five years because there has been some research showing a link between dental X-rays and the cancer I had, and since I really don't get cavities, I limit my radiation exposure. I use lots of sunscreen. I got tested for other cancer genes, which I don't carry. I go for regular check ups. But we really don't know for sure what caused my cancer (we suspect genetics).

But I can't stop living my life because I'm afraid of some unknown future event.
 

Goofyernmost

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Nope, gal, its to raise awareness in CA, cancer is terrible I've seen what it has done to loved ones. The laughing part is what is insensitive but you do what you do.
We are already far more aware of it now then ever and it is all well intentioned that they try to constantly pound it home that there are things that are assumed to cause cancer. As for myself, I would rather laugh at the problem (which I have) then to spend my life rolled up in a ball afraid of everything when the warnings are mostly based on a sometimes exaggerated connection to something. It was like I said earlier, I have Prostate Cancer and that the assumption is that because a significant number of men who have that form of cancer are now at an age where that is a more common likelihood one would have that coupled with the fact that there are so many people that have or had PC that tend to be getting elderly and were exposed to Agent Orange. (that was our era, some other wars it was nerve gas) My father had Prostate Cancer and he never breathed in a single molecule of Agent Orange into his being. So is it possible that many men would have had the illness regardless of exposure?

Sure, it's not funny but if I have to choose between laughing and crying over something that I really had no direct control over, I will and do laugh about it many time. I'm sure that if it sets into being "terminal" I will be forced to take it more seriously, but until then I prefer to be happy until I can't be anymore.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In the Parks
No
We are already far more aware of it now then ever and it is all well intentioned that they try to constantly pound it home that there are things that are assumed to cause cancer. As for myself, I would rather laugh at the problem (which I have) then to spend my life rolled up in a ball afraid of everything when the warnings are mostly based on a sometimes exaggerated connection to something. It was like I said earlier, I have Prostate Cancer and that the assumption is that because a significant number of men who have that form of cancer are now at an age where that is a more common likelihood one would have that coupled with the fact that there are so many people that have or had PC that tend to be getting elderly and were exposed to Agent Orange. (that was our era, some other wars it was nerve gas) My father had Prostate Cancer and he never breathed in a single molecule of Agent Orange into his being. So is it possible that many men would have had the illness regardless of exposure?

Sure, it's not funny but if I have to choose between laughing and crying over something that I really had no direct control over, I will and do laugh about it many time. I'm sure that if it sets into being "terminal" I will be forced to take it more seriously, but until then I prefer to be happy until I can't be anymore.
Ah yes, the morbid sense of humor that accompanies the cancer diagnosis.

Sometimes I am joking and people will look horrified. 🤣

Hearing the c word at 23 was not a fun thing. If I don't laugh, I'll cry, so I may as well see the humor in it.
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Lilofan

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We are already far more aware of it now then ever and it is all well intentioned that they try to constantly pound it home that there are things that are assumed to cause cancer. As for myself, I would rather laugh at the problem (which I have) then to spend my life rolled up in a ball afraid of everything when the warnings are mostly based on a sometimes exaggerated connection to something. It was like I said earlier, I have Prostate Cancer and that the assumption is that because a significant number of men who have that form of cancer are now at an age where that is a more common likelihood one would have that coupled with the fact that there are so many people that have or had PC that tend to be getting elderly and were exposed to Agent Orange. (that was our era, some other wars it was nerve gas) My father had Prostate Cancer and he never breathed in a single molecule of Agent Orange into his being. So is it possible that many men would have had the illness regardless of exposure?

Sure, it's not funny but if I have to choose between laughing and crying over something that I really had no direct control over, I will and do laugh about it many time. I'm sure that if it sets into being "terminal" I will be forced to take it more seriously, but until then I prefer to be happy until I can't be anymore.
In regards like you mentioned " terminal ", the hospice team are truly angels on earth when it came to their assistance with our loved ones.
 

wdwfan4ver

Well-Known Member
When it comes to cancer I would guess that in some way everything causes cancer if it is looked at closely enough. Why wasn't I warned that being male and having a prostate gland can cause you to have cancer. I don't know of any outside exposure caused mine, but the government feels that my possible exposure to agent orange may have been the cause.

Let's face it life is life. If we spend the whole time dodging everything the may or may not cause cancer, what a dreadful life it would be. I have that cancer and although it is active, it fortunately is about as active as I am. Nine years now and although it is being monitored every six months it is still not even close to a life threatening thing, but I have to be reminded about it twice a year. The few days leading up to the PSA blood tests is when the dread comes in. Will this be when it kicks into high gear or remains at a snails pace. If I were to become obsessed with the idea that cancer is in my body they would have put me in a padded room by now. Twice a year I have to take it seriously and everytime I read about someone dying of Prostate Cancer a little twinge fires up in me. Right now the side affects of trying to eliminate it is far worse then just living with it.

My opinion is that there are some things that just cannot be wished away. One might lower the possibility by our actions, but in the end we all have to die of something and it is so boring to just die of old age. You get no sympathy for that. Now that I have reached the age of not being possible to die young it all seems so much more real. I can, however, not need to worry about it and can find that all though not really funny, it also isn't something that would offend me. I sometimes think that once you have participated in a war one's outlook and sensitivity things like that decreases.
I think this shirt summed things up the best.

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My dad had that shirt back in the 90s back when I was growing up. That shirt's statement holds true back than and it still does now.
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I think this shirt summed things up the best.

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My dad had that shirt back in the 90s back when I was growing up. That shirt's statement holds true back than and it still does now.
One of the reasons why the medical industry ( people do not eat right, overeat , lack of exercise etc ) is a billion dollar industry and growing and the obesity rates are out of control in our country compared to back in the day. I was one of them until my bloodwork numbers scared me straight and attending a number of funerals of peers dying young.
 

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