The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Goofyernmost

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As a person who is not affected by snow. I find these complains very curious..
When its summer and everyone is complaining about how hot it is..
When its winter. now everyone having a bad time with the cold temps.
Yea, those of us associated with the snow belt tend to not be happy no matter what is happening. Rightfully so, we complain about the cold, because if it is cold enough you could lose body parts and even without that it is uncomfortable to say the least. That's not to mention dangerous and expensive. It ain't cheap to keep roads clear, which is a general expense to all or to heat your house. It used to cost me about 2K a year in heating oil. The beauty of a fresh snowfall goes away quickly. Then comes the other side of the coin. Heat! In the far northern areas the hot weather lasts, on average, about 4 months so houses are not generally equipt with central AC, so it is uncomfortable and as my father used to say... "you can't take enough off to stay cool". Myself, a 6 decade resident of the north, you will never hear me complain about heat now that I live in NC because AC is everywhere and the cost to use AC and short term heat pumps do not even equal what it cost to just have electric lights in the north. So northerners tend to be more hardy physically and a mess mentally dealing with the extremes. In southern areas the temperature range is about 40F to 105F. In the northern reaches of the US it has a range of -35F to 100+F in any given year.
 

Goofyernmost

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Here they have always put down sand, which doesn’t break down like salt, on bridges and overpasses before any ice/snow event, and it mostly helps.
But, last February during “SNOWMAGEDDON 2021…!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:“, all that initial sand became buried so deep that it didn’t make a bit of difference, and the sand trucks were in no way prepared to go back out into that once-in-about-every-one-hundred-years carp…!!!!! :hilarious:
Last February was an oddity for your part of the world. The difference being that the north has it as a lifestyle. Northerners, by necessity have a system in place to maintain normal life during that type of problem because up north that is a normal expectation in winter. You guys, rightfully so, could not have been prepared for it. Nature doesn't always do what we would like, which seems to be ramping up lately. So what would be referred to as "Snowmageddon" in Texas, up north would be called Tuesday.
 

Songbird76

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Yeah I went back and forth. Our flight wasn't supposed to land until 9, but then Baltimore County Public schools cancelled schools last night, which never happens; they always wait for the last minute, and then I saw an email from work basically telling everyone they could work from home (they had originally asked non-remote employees to come in) which also never happens. Then Southwest cancelled their 8 am flight out of here last night. So I figured it would be bad. And I also have my grandma with me and didn't need her stressed out.

Both flights I was looking at got cancelled. There was one last night I was looking at but didn't book because it was more expensive that got cancelled, and then every single non-stop out of Charleston to BWI got cancelled today.
They had some clips on the news here from interviews of passengers, and one girl said her flight had already been canceled 3 times. I was wondering if you guys were caught up in any of the carp there. They just said "Northeastern US" but didn't give anything more specific than that, so I assumed NY, NJ, Maryland area. Then this morning they were showing traffic backed up where people had to stay overnight in their cars on the road because it was at a complete standstill. People had to turn off their cars to conserve gas, so some guy said he had to turn on his car once every half hour or hour, but the temps dropped so low that it cooled down really quickly once the engine was off. I hope they got traffic moving again! People were without food and water, etc. Out of curiosity, do you guys keep blizzard kits in your cars there? In Wyoming, we always had a couple of jugs of water, a can of non-perishables like candybars and crackers, and extra winter duds like stocking hats and gloves, and a sleeping bag for if we get stuck and have to sleep in the freezing car. We also always have a snow shovel, and a bag of either sand or kitty litter, and a couple of wooden blocks to stick under the tires to give some traction. And I don't know about most people, but we also had a sort of homemade heater made of an empty coffee can with some holes cut in it (for oxygen) and a tuna can with rolled up newspaper strips and wax. You light the tuna can and put the coffee can over the top of it and it makes heat, so you don't need to run your engine while you're idling. We don't need such things here, but it's pretty much standard in Wyoming that you have stuff in the car for a sudden storm.

When my husband visited once before we were married, it was really nice weather, and we had run up to the "mall" for coffee with my mom and she chewed my husband up one side and down the other because he hadn't bothered to bring a coat. She warned him that the weather could turn FAST and you always had to be prepared, even if it looked like it was beautiful outside. She wasn't wrong. I always make my kids bring their jackets just in case, but it doesn't usually change suddenly here like it does there, but it's been drilled into me that you ALWAYS bring a coat with you.
 

93boomer

Premium Member
Are you a big reader? I love books, but I saw the author on some show doing an interview and she rubbed me the wrong way, so I could never bring myself to read that book or watch the movie. I was afraid it would read the way she came across in that interview. Should I give it a chance?
Yes I read all the time.
I would read it if you’re interested. I thought the movie was better though.
 

Songbird76

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If I had to guess you don't often have to deal with that in sub-zero weather. The best way is the gradual warm up of the glass by running the engine and the defroster for a sufficient time. Even room temperature to a windshield that is -20 degrees is sufficient shock to ruin ones day.
We aren't allowed to run our engines to defrost the windshield here. You can turn it on while you scrape, and you have to wait until it's not fogged over, but you can't start it and just wait for the defroster to do the work. I just bought a spray thing that's supposed to defrost instantly, but haven't needed it yet. New Years Eve was 14C here (I think around 57F) which is the warmest New Years ever recorded. It was nice not to freeze while A lit a few small fountains at midnight for once!
 

Lilofan

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We aren't allowed to run our engines to defrost the windshield here. You can turn it on while you scrape, and you have to wait until it's not fogged over, but you can't start it and just wait for the defroster to do the work. I just bought a spray thing that's supposed to defrost instantly, but haven't needed it yet. New Years Eve was 14C here (I think around 57F) which is the warmest New Years ever recorded. It was nice not to freeze while A lit a few small fountains at midnight for once!
Buy a special windshield tarp if sold in your area , hook up the straps to the driver and passenger side mirrors and never scrape your windshield again and hope no one steals it.
 

Songbird76

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We finally got the new car today!! Not quite a year late, but 11 months. They didn't pick up the old one, though. They didn't tell us we had to return it ourselves. It's a good thing I have a license now so I could follow M to turn in the old one and we could take the new one back home, and we were lucky that it was only a 10 minute drive to turn in the old one. But we have the new one now.
 

Songbird76

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Buy a special windshield tarp if sold in your area , hook up the straps to the driver and passenger side mirrors and never scrape your windshield again and hope no one steals it.
My neighbor puts a blanket across hers, and closes the ends in the doors. No one can steal it because it's attached with the doors. Not sure if it works though. I'm not particularly worried about it. It doesn't take long to scrape here. We don't get the storms like we did in Wyoming, and it doesn't get nearly as cold here. I've got one of those scrapers attached to a mitten, and if I turn the car on and put the defroster on as I scrape, by the time I have both sides scraped, it's almost ready to go. I guess that's the advantage of having grown up in a snowy area...the inconvenience here is minimal in comparison to what it was there. It's all relative.
 

Lilofan

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They had some clips on the news here from interviews of passengers, and one girl said her flight had already been canceled 3 times. I was wondering if you guys were caught up in any of the carp there. They just said "Northeastern US" but didn't give anything more specific than that, so I assumed NY, NJ, Maryland area. Then this morning they were showing traffic backed up where people had to stay overnight in their cars on the road because it was at a complete standstill. People had to turn off their cars to conserve gas, so some guy said he had to turn on his car once every half hour or hour, but the temps dropped so low that it cooled down really quickly once the engine was off. I hope they got traffic moving again! People were without food and water, etc. Out of curiosity, do you guys keep blizzard kits in your cars there? In Wyoming, we always had a couple of jugs of water, a can of non-perishables like candybars and crackers, and extra winter duds like stocking hats and gloves, and a sleeping bag for if we get stuck and have to sleep in the freezing car. We also always have a snow shovel, and a bag of either sand or kitty litter, and a couple of wooden blocks to stick under the tires to give some traction. And I don't know about most people, but we also had a sort of homemade heater made of an empty coffee can with some holes cut in it (for oxygen) and a tuna can with rolled up newspaper strips and wax. You light the tuna can and put the coffee can over the top of it and it makes heat, so you don't need to run your engine while you're idling. We don't need such things here, but it's pretty much standard in Wyoming that you have stuff in the car for a sudden storm.

When my husband visited once before we were married, it was really nice weather, and we had run up to the "mall" for coffee with my mom and she chewed my husband up one side and down the other because he hadn't bothered to bring a coat. She warned him that the weather could turn FAST and you always had to be prepared, even if it looked like it was beautiful outside. She wasn't wrong. I always make my kids bring their jackets just in case, but it doesn't usually change suddenly here like it does there, but it's been drilled into me that you ALWAYS bring a coat with you.
One newscaster said living in winter weather states - treat a 1/4 tank of gas left in the car as near empty. One would be glad if the gas tank is full if stuck on an interstate with no help in sight.
 

Songbird76

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One newscaster said living in winter weather states - treat a 1/4 tank of gas left in the car as near empty. One would be glad if the gas tank is full if stuck on an interstate with no help in sight.
We have tank heaters in Wyoming and you plug your car in at night in the winter. Apparently that's not a "thing" in the Southern states. When I was in college, I had a friend from Arizona and we were walking through a parking lot, and suddenly he dives to the ground and starts taking pictures of the car grilles and I was like WHAT ARE YOU DOING?? He said no one back home believed him that we have plugs on our cars to keep the fluids from freezing, so he was taking pictures to show them that he wasn't pulling their legs. I think Wyoming car ownership is just a different animal from most places. Distances tend to be longer....the closest town to mine was 40 miles away, and there's no pubic transportation. You HAD to have a car, and you pretty much had to get a license as soon as you could. You had to keep all sorts of winter gear in your car all year round in case of freak storms. Everything revolves around being prepared for blizzards. From what I hear, that's not true for most other states other than like Montana, Colorado, and South and North Dakotas. Maybe Idaho, but I'm not sure. My husband had never seen a tank heater plug....they don't have them here. But we learn from the time we're little how to handle those things, like putting blocks under your tires so they don't spin, or keeping a sleeping bag in your trunk incase you get stuck in a snowbank and have to wait for rescue. We had a blizzard in....I think it was '84 that lasted 3 days. People were stranded on the sides of roads for days because it was a complete white out. Kids who lived in the country couldn't get home from school and had to go home with kids who lived in town. They opened up the schools and churches for stranded travelers who actually made it off the highway into town. When it was over, people who had snowmobiles went out to rescue people from their cars because the plows still couldn't clear the roads to get people on their way. It's just something that we learn to deal with that other people are oblivious to.
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
They had some clips on the news here from interviews of passengers, and one girl said her flight had already been canceled 3 times. I was wondering if you guys were caught up in any of the carp there. They just said "Northeastern US" but didn't give anything more specific than that, so I assumed NY, NJ, Maryland area. Then this morning they were showing traffic backed up where people had to stay overnight in their cars on the road because it was at a complete standstill. People had to turn off their cars to conserve gas, so some guy said he had to turn on his car once every half hour or hour, but the temps dropped so low that it cooled down really quickly once the engine was off. I hope they got traffic moving again! People were without food and water, etc. Out of curiosity, do you guys keep blizzard kits in your cars there? In Wyoming, we always had a couple of jugs of water, a can of non-perishables like candybars and crackers, and extra winter duds like stocking hats and gloves, and a sleeping bag for if we get stuck and have to sleep in the freezing car. We also always have a snow shovel, and a bag of either sand or kitty litter, and a couple of wooden blocks to stick under the tires to give some traction. And I don't know about most people, but we also had a sort of homemade heater made of an empty coffee can with some holes cut in it (for oxygen) and a tuna can with rolled up newspaper strips and wax. You light the tuna can and put the coffee can over the top of it and it makes heat, so you don't need to run your engine while you're idling. We don't need such things here, but it's pretty much standard in Wyoming that you have stuff in the car for a sudden storm.

When my husband visited once before we were married, it was really nice weather, and we had run up to the "mall" for coffee with my mom and she chewed my husband up one side and down the other because he hadn't bothered to bring a coat. She warned him that the weather could turn FAST and you always had to be prepared, even if it looked like it was beautiful outside. She wasn't wrong. I always make my kids bring their jackets just in case, but it doesn't usually change suddenly here like it does there, but it's been drilled into me that you ALWAYS bring a coat with you.
I keep blankets, hats and gloves in the car for emergencies in the winter
 

Figgy1

Well-Known Member
We finally got the new car today!! Not quite a year late, but 11 months. They didn't pick up the old one, though. They didn't tell us we had to return it ourselves. It's a good thing I have a license now so I could follow M to turn in the old one and we could take the new one back home, and we were lucky that it was only a 10 minute drive to turn in the old one. But we have the new one now.
Good luck with it
 

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