The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

donaldtoo

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I think my work ethic is pretty good. I'm not one to stand around doing nothing. There is always SOMETHING to be done. Even if there are no orders in my zone, I'll go clean up or go help in another zone for a couple of minutes, or look for empty trays to pull out to make room for full ones. And if it's REALLY dead, I'll just go ask a supervisor if they'd like me to do something else. I've had some of those "you're making me look bad!" comments, too. When I got the bad evaluation, I was worried they were going to fire me. I thought I had been doing a good job, and I WAS, but they weren't seeing it. So I tried to walk really fast and a few coworkers were like "Woah, slow down! You're going to hurt yourself!" and I said I couldn't slow down because of the evaluation. One of the gals basically said in not so polite words to ignore the evaluation. She said "You know what he told me? I came into the room, and he had a folder in his hands. He threw it on the floor and told me that's where I belonged. And he told Maartje that she was slow because she was fat!" and I burst into tears and told her that's what he'd said to me, too. Then a couple other coworkers happened to see that I was in tears and came to make sure I was ok, and all of them had had bad evaluations, too, and none of them were justified. They had all gone to complain to HR about the evals, so they escorted me straight to the HR person to tell her what happened. The manager who had done all the evals ended up having to redo a bunch of them. He didn't redo mine, but HR made him call and apologize for his comments. Legally, they have to give a person a chance to improve, so they couldn't fire him, just like he couldn't fire me. But there were so many complaints about the evaluations and half the people refused to sign them. I had my husband help me write a letter to sign that explained that while I HAD received my eval, I did not agree with it, and would therefore not be signing it. You have to sign it to show you have gotten it and understand it, etc...your signature implies that you agree. Anyway, the entire evaluation had been based on one thing: the average time it took to scan an item. Average in the company was 40 seconds (You were pushing a cart with 8 baskets, across the warehouse and scanning whatever item it tells you to get, so you have to GET to that item, scan it, take it back to the cart and scan it into the right basket, then go to the next item.) My average was like 54 seconds, BUT I worked almost exclusively upstairs where the setup is different and it takes longer. No one liked working upstairs because it takes longer, you don't have contact with many other people, and the temperature was terrible. In the summer, it could be 110 degrees up there and you were expected to walk your tail off in that. But there are also other jobs there...unpacking returns, putting returns back on the shelf, stocking new merchandise, packing orders to be sent out. My packing time was faster than average, and they don't time returns or stocking. He even based my subordination on my pick time, saying that part of what they want us to do is work fast, so even though I always did whatever they asked me to do without complaining, and I didn't make as many mistakes as other people, the fact that I was slower meant that I was insubordinate, so I got a "poor" on my eval for that. I work in a warehouse....there are no customers to deal with, and he gave me a "poor" for customer service because customers want their order as fast as they can get it. I was never once late, I hardly ever called in sick, I worked whenever they asked people to come in extra, but I got a "poor" for work ethic, because my picktime was too slow. There was a seperate category for speed, so that had already been evaluated, and he didn't take my packing time into account. The whole thing was just bogus. We did a test after the eval. I spent one shift working only upstairs, and one shift working only downstairs, and they checked my picktimes for each. When I worked upstairs, my pick time was like 57 seconds per item. When I worked downstairs it was 36 seconds....and average was 40. So I was actually faster than average, just that most people weren't working upstairs at all, and I was ONLY working upstairs. Then there was one woman who would stand and chat with other people for HOURS. I'd have finished several carts and she'd be standing in the exact same spot talking to the exact same person about their kids or about a spouse or whatever, 45 minutes later. Then I'd come back and she'd be gone, but I'd see her standing in a DIFFERENT spot talking to another coworker and she'd stand there for 20 minutes. They had to restrict her from packing, because she wouldn't get anything done, because she'd do nothing but talk to the people around her. But SHE got a good evaluation. She'd just log out of her scanner while she talked so it wasn't timing her. And I'm the one who got a "poor" for work ethic and subordination. They just weren't paying any attention to what people were doing at all and were basing everything on the average pick time, which doesn't tell you WHY it takes one person longer than another. If you stand there and talk for an hour and only log in to go scan an item, yeah, your pick time is going to be pretty good, but it doesn't mean you are doing a good job. But that sounds like the difference....Carolyn's bosses were paying attention to what she was actually doing, not relying on a single statistic to determine how hard she was working.

Fun side note: when that supervisor left the company, they put out a jar for donations for a gift for them....they always do that for longterm people who leave. His was almost empty. Everyone was so glad to see him go and no one was willing to give even a euro to buy a gift for him because no one liked him. He was also kind of a lecher. A lot of the younger gals found him creepy because he'd stand too close to them, or make comments, stare at them etc, which is probably why he didn't like me. I'm not a hot young 20 something.

Wow. That’s a whole lotta’ carp up there…!!!!! o_O
Work environments seem to bring out the worst in too many folks.

The first time Carolyn came home and told me a co-worker told her she was working too hard and making them look bad I replied “Are you kidding…?!” When she assured me she wasn’t kidding, I just laughed and shook my head.
She was at the insurance company during that time, and all 3 of our kiddos were born during the time she worked there. The health coverage was top notch…!!! :)

That’s funny about the gift donation jar for that scummy supervisor…!!!!! :hilarious:
Maybe he “reevaluated” himself after that…?! 🤔
Nahhh, people like that are usually too far off the rails to right the ship (mixing my metaphors…!!!!! :D:hilarious:).
 

Bullseye1967

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Bullseye1967

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Cracks me up that the one for Texas is “The Big Texan Steak Ranch”, in Amarillo, Texas…!!!!! :hilarious:
That place was featured as the first eating challenge for the first episode of the original “Man v. Food”, starring Adam Richman…!!!!! :hilarious:
The carpetbagger from YouTube did the challenge and won. I have eaten there but never when someone was trying it.
 

FutureCEO

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@StarWarsGirl I saw an article about Kronos. The first thing that came to my mind was yea more Star Trek:joyfull: It turned out to be a ransomware attack on the company Kronos:(

urgh even when I'm not at work....I'm reminded of it :hilarious:

But you know work is bad when you leave 30 mins later than normal and your boss gives you that look. The your leaving early look. But thankfully there is light at the end of the year.
 
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MinnieM123

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urgh even when I'm not at work....I'm reminded of it :hilarious:

But you know work is bad when you leave 30 mins later than normal and your boss gives you that look. The your leaving early look. But thankfully there is light at the end of the year.
Are you moving up to a different position in the company -- or have you found something at a different company at the end of the year?
 

Goofyernmost

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Baccala in Italian, Bacalao in Spanish, Bacalau in Portuguese dried salt cod in English;) Each country has its own dishes using it even Norway and the Philippines;)
So do I look like I live in Italy, Spain or Portugal? Dried salt cod would have told me what you were talking about. I can barely speak English other languages are all Greek to me. ;)
 

Songbird76

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Wow. That’s a whole lotta’ carp up there…!!!!! o_O
Work environments seem to bring out the worst in too many folks.

The first time Carolyn came home and told me a co-worker told her she was working too hard and making them look bad I replied “Are you kidding…?!” When she assured me she wasn’t kidding, I just laughed and shook my head.
She was at the insurance company during that time, and all 3 of our kiddos were born during the time she worked there. The health coverage was top notch…!!! :)

That’s funny about the gift donation jar for that scummy supervisor…!!!!! :hilarious:
Maybe he “reevaluated” himself after that…?! 🤔
Nahhh, people like that are usually too far off the rails to right the ship (mixing my metaphors…!!!!! :D:hilarious:).
Yeah, we have a history of a pretty toxic work environment at times. It's better now than it used to be. There used to be a LOT of prejudice against foreigners, and we had a group of Polish people who worked there, and only one spoke English, and another spoke Dutch. The rest only spoke Polish and German. I'd be at a packing station and hear the women standing next to me talking about stupid foreigners coming to steal their jobs, and if they wanted to come here to work, they'd better be prepared to do the things the Dutch people didn't want to do. Then they noticed me standing there and went "Oh, we aren't talking about you....you're different." Sure I am. Someone turned them in to management, though, and they got in trouble for it. But now we have a HUGE number of foreigners. At the time, it was me and the Polish people. Now I can't count how many immigrants work there, and a lot of them barely speak Dutch. Any time someone can speak some English but not much Dutch, I am usually the one who will be called on to train them. (logical.) I enjoy training new people most of the time.

And there were some really catty and nasty women who worked there when I first started. One woman came up to me and pulled the neckline of my shirt up...I was wearing a sort of wrap around shirt where the one side overlaps the other, so it's not a typical neckline. You could see about 1/4 of a fingernail's size of the center of my bra at one point because the one side had slid slightly out of place. She walked up to me, and rather than whispering to me that I might want to check my neckline, she grabbed both sides of the neckline at breast level, yanked them back in place and said really loudly "There! Now I can't see your bra anymore!" and it was in front of about 20 coworkers. If you did that in the US, you'd be written up and reprimanded. Everyone just laughed, and I was humiliated. This woman was constantly nasty to me. I don't know what her problem was. It wasn't that I was a foreigner, because she was, too. She didn't work there long, thank goodness. I was so glad when she left.

And we were called out by management once because new people kept quitting because the people who had worked there longer were so unfriendly. One of the gals refused to even try to learn new people's names....she apparently thought it was beneath her. And other people would try to act like they had authority over the new people, telling them they had to do such and such because they didn't want to do it and they had been there longer, so you do it. It's not always been a pleasant atmosphere, but that's why I prefer working evenings. All the nasties work during the day. We didn't have evening hours until just a few years ago, so when that started, a bunch of the people were ticked that they had to start working one evening a week....that's not what they agreed to, and it wasn't in their contract, and bla bla bla. I jumped at it because the hours worked better with my schedule. I could be home when my kids came home from school, my husband could drive me if the weather was bad....no more biking through rain or hail. And then they hired a bunch of people just for the evenings, so all the nasties didn't have to work evenings anymore if they didn't want to. So the atmosphere in the evening became MUCH more pleasant than during the day.

I doubt the skeevy manager has changed. He probably didn't think he had done anything wrong, and he only left because he got a different job in management in a field he liked more.
 

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