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ajrwdwgirl

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The DNR also said there were no cougars or bobcats in Wisconsin...

And there definitely are cougars and bobcats. We had a cougar run out in front of our car a couple years ago when we had to drive somewhere early in the morning. And last week a teacher I work with was on a walk with her two big dogs and they came across a bobcat in a field. She was able to get a picture, it was certainly a bobcat! I would have been scared but she was so excited about it.
 

Songbird76

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They’re not rattlesnakes (they have no rattle), but, they’re similar in that they are also venomous pit vipers, and have the distinctive viper shape to their head, among other similarities.
Gotcha. I know they are venomous, and I think we have them in Wyoming, but I guess I never had the desire to get close enough to one to see if it had a rattle or not. My parents killed many a rattler when I was growing up. I remember when I was probably 3 or 4, my aunt came over to visit, and I was playing outside on the swing, and my brother was in the sandbox. My brother went inside and then my mom called to me to get inside immediately, and I had to use the back door. My aunt was waiting there, for some reason with a towel to wrap me in, and we watched through the front window as my parents both grabbed their pistols and shot the snake. I also remember my mom chopping one's head off with a garden hoe once. And we used to run over them whenever we saw one on the road. Apparently my uncle or my cousin stepped on one at some point, but fortunately stepped on its head and I assume the people with him probably used a knife to kill it before he removed that foot, but I don't know for sure. They were probably carrying guns, but I would hope they wouldn't shoot it while he was standing on it, and those things move FAST, so you wouldn't want to let it go first, either. I really don't miss those snakes. They have some in the zoo in Arnhem, so the kids have seen them and know all the stories I have about them.
 

Songbird76

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Going to rain here Sunday. Neighbors are having a bbq bday party for two of their kids. Unfortunately it may be rained out.
We're planning our BBQ for next weekend when we can finally visit my in-laws. I hope the weather will be nice!! We had 3 solid weeks of rain and hail and it's finally nice this weekend....65 degrees yesterday, which was SO nice. But starting on June 5th, you're allowed 4 people outside your household to come visit, and restaurants and movie theaters are opening up again. I don't care so much about theaters....that's what Netflix/Disney+ are for, and I don't feel safe going to a restaurant right now, even if it's allowed, but my in-laws aren't getting any younger, my FIL has deteriorated SO much in the last year and I'm glad that they'll get to see the kids more now. So I hope the weather cooperates....it will be the first time in months that we can all go visit them together.
 

Songbird76

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It does! 👍
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I just looked at the website that lists all the parks features.....and "sheltered picnic tables" is on their list! :cool::happy:
Do you have to reserve the sheltered ones? I know when I was living in Laramie, the park there had lots of picnic tables and grills, some covered, some not. Anyone could use them, but if someone came along and had a permit for the sheltered one, you had to leave, because people paid to use it. It it wasn't rented, you could still use it, but it was always better to go ahead and rent it, so you were sure of having it if the weather turned bad.
 

Songbird76

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Ugh. Corona has thrown all these kids off. B has been having more meltdowns too. For him, it's because he's not seeing people like usual. It helps now that he's going to school, but he wants to see all of his friends from outside of school, and he can't, so that throws him. Then before I got to WDW, he was having mini meltdowns over waiting in lines, which never happens. The funny thing about that was that I got there, and they completely stopped.

He's far more social than either me or my father. I'm content texting people, calling my bestie every week, and talking to my mom. Dad is content talking to people at work, my uncle who's not my uncle, and us. Even Mom just has two friends who she talks to regularly. We're not sure where B came from.
Yeah, usually A does fine with school, and last year he LOVED the online school. He had a different teacher then who didn't do all the meetings, just gave the kids assignments and made himself available if they needed the actual instruction, but A never did. So he'd have his entire day of schoolwork done at 10:00am and had the rest of the day free. One time, his teacher even joked with him about some assignment and told A "You better have this on my desk by 10:00!" which it wasn't due until the next day, but A was always done really quickly. A had it done early and waited until exactly 10 to send it in. He and that teacher got along really well. This year, his teachers are really nice, but they both insist on doing the meetings, so A can't work at his faster pace, and he has to sit there and listen even when he understands the material and the other kids don't. This is kind of what we were afraid of, because at the end of 6th grade, they take an exam to determine which level of school a kid can do. He got the maximum score on that test, which means he's in the top 5% of kids in the nation at his grade level. The top 20% go to the highest level of school, but the special education schools don't offer that top level, because there are so few kids in special education who score that highly. They'd have to pay for teachers for just him or maybe him and a couple others, max. And because they also have extra classes with special ed like social skills and such, they figure that's enough to challenge them, and they don't want to overwhelm them, so they just don't do the highest level. So we went in asking if there would be opportunities for him if he was bored with the material and they were honest that it's not their strong suit, but he really just can not go to a regular high school. He'd be huddled in a corner somewhere sobbing and would be an easy target for bullies. So we decided it was better for him to do a lower level and be somewhat bored than have to go to a regular high school to get the highest level but then be bullied again. So what we're seeing is that he is indeed bored because the material is not at his level. They are giving him more challenging math and they put him into an extra class once every other week that does more in depth studies about some things and he loves that, but it's really not enough. And I kind of agree with him in a way that it's NOT fair that the kids who are at school that day all get to work together and when the class period is over, they are done whether they finished it or not, but A has to do it all by himself and actually finish it to hand it in. I get why that upsets him, and things being unfair is a HUGE trigger for him.

His teacher wrote back and told us to put it aside, do the Dutch practice test instead, and next week when he's at school, she'll help him with the assignment for yesterday. So it all got fixed, but it was a rough day.

I think E is the most social of us...she is the one who goes out and does things with friends. My husband doesn't seem to need contact with outside people at all. He enjoys being at the office for work with everyone, but he's also fine working from home and not going anywhere. I have some friends here, but not that I can really kick back with. We enjoy each others' company, but we don't have a lot in common other than all being foreigners married to Dutchies. It's always good to see them, but it's not like hanging out with my best friends back home talking about anything and everything. You can't talk about anything off color with any of my friends here, and the one with whom I could have moved to Germany a couple of years ago, so I haven't seen her for 2 or 3 years since we visited there. A can't make plans with his school friends after school like E can, because he's the only one who lives here in town. All the other kids are bussed in from other places, so they can't hang out after school and go get ice cream or go to the library or whatever. So E is pretty much the only one who really feels like she's missing her friends. I've always had to be content with video chats with my friends in the US.

But, schools are opening completely starting next week, so E will see her friends every day. It was so sweet that they kidnapped her for her birthday last week, blindfold and everything. They had to break the rules to do it, but they went to Rosan's house, which is outside of town and she has no close neighbors and a lot of land, so they could all be distanced. They baked her a cake and Dimphy asked her over under the pretext of working on a school project they have, and instead blindfolded her and drove her to Rosan's where all her friends were waiting. It was really good for her to get to do something for her birthday since she didn't get to celebrate last year, and our house is too small to let her friends come over here. But none of us are huge party animals. We enjoy being with friends, but we all dread large social gatherings.
 

Songbird76

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Here's a thought I have on some technology and statistics! You mentioned that childbirth is massively less dangerous then it was say even 75 years ago. What causes some other thoughts to be looked at differently is the wonderful life expectancy. We look at ages of death in the past and it seems like we as a group live longer and that is true, but what brought the average numbers down year ago was the fact that there were a lot of childbirth related deaths. The Mother may have been counted as dyeing during childbirth and the baby was also along with the fact because of the pre-vaccination days many children died before their 5th birthday. That brought the average life expectancy down to very low number. Now with science we live longer generally, but those that survived into adulthood lived as long as those of us now.

Just in my family My great grandparents on my mothers side... 1 lived to one day short of 100. another died in the Civil War. My mothers father was adopted and no one ever knew or talked about his parents. On my Fathers side my great grandparents made to 97, 98, 100 and 101.

My Grandparents on my Mothers side were 89 and 81. On my Fathers side 88 and 67. My Father and all his siblings died before reaching the age of 74. My mother lived to 87 while her siblings all died younger then her.

Me I hope to make it to 73 in a few weeks. Many of my younger cousins have passed already.

My point is that those that did survive their youth lived what seems to be longer then we currently do. Why? I don't have a clue. Perhaps the hardships and heavy duty work requirement to survive made the ancestors far more hardy then we are today.

In my, admittedly amateur evaluation science has allowed more of us to survive but not as long. Our ancestors ate whatever they wanted. Carbs, calories, glutens, food allergies were never a factor at the time and were very fortunately spared from Kale. Booze, from what my grandfather used to tell me based on his stories of when he and my grandmother had a business making bathtub beer and blacked out windows so gambling could take place, drank stuff that would take the paint off walls. She died of an aneurism at 67 and he died just a couple years short of 90. Moral of the story is the we all live in our own times and what we do will affect how long we live to an extent but a lot of it has to do with activity, strong immune systems and hard work. Add them all up and it's all in the genes.
It's so true. When I was doing genealogy research, my g-g grandparents had something like 13 children, but only 8 lived to adulthood and one died in her 20s. My g-g- grandfather wrote a poem about how he missed his baby's fingers playing with his beard as he held her. Several of their babies died as toddlers. Diseases like cholera, or typhus, or scarlet fever killed a lot of children.
My grandfather was extremely bitter because he had lived with his grandparents, whom he adored, until he was 5 years old when his mother suddenly appeared and took him away with his half sister to join some religious group that didn't believe in doctors or medicine. His sister became ill and they refused to take her to a doctor, and he had to watch her die a very painful death....I want to say she was around 9 when she died and he was something like 5 or 6. He ran away as soon as he was old enough, which back in the late 1800s or early 1900s was relatively young. I'm not sure, but I think he was somewhere around 14 or 15 when he left home. But at that time, even if they HAD taken her to a doctor, without modern medicines, his sister might not have survived anyway.

But you're right...life expectancy is longer now, but really it has a lot to do with the fact that we've reduced the number of deaths due to complications of childbirth. Now that we have c-sections and emergency care for premature births, even babies who wouldn't have made it 100 years ago can be saved and mothers who would have probably bled to death can get an emergency transfusion. Even if there are complications, the technology mitigates those. And it's not just with childbirth that we have reduced deaths....the invention of seatbelts, child seats, improvements in food regulations in restaurants, research into deadly diseases and development of treatments...it all helps to reduce accidental death. Who knows where we'll be in another 100 years!
 

MySmallWorldof4

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And there definitely are cougars and bobcats. We had a cougar run out in front of our car a couple years ago when we had to drive somewhere early in the morning. And last week a teacher I work with was on a walk with her two big dogs and they came across a bobcat in a field. She was able to get a picture, it was certainly a bobcat! I would have been scared but she was so excited about it.
The Little House in the Big Woods book talks about bobcats in Wisconsin.
 

Lilofan

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No, they all went in the fire with the pants along with other things I'd rather forget about. However, at the time they seemed quite cool. One of the only times that I ever fit in with the rest of society actually.
I was much younger in the 1970s then but I still recall wearing my bell bottom jeans and very wide collar shirts, and tried try to grow long sideburns to look like Elvis.
 

Goofyernmost

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@Figgy1 , have I been mistaken -- aren't barbecue and grilling the same thing? I've always used the two words interchangeably down through the years. 🤔
I'll jump in there for those like yourself that have not "kept up". Barbecuing and grilling are two completely different things. BBQing is a process that involves seasoning, rubs and liquids, slow cooking and a high degree of skill where as grilling is just an act of burning food over high heat. Down here it is almost a crime to think one is the same as the other.
 

MinnieM123

Premium Member
I'll jump in there for those like yourself that have not "kept up". Barbecuing and grilling are two completely different things. BBQing is a process that involves seasoning, rubs and liquids, slow cooking and a high degree of skill where as grilling is just an act of burning food over high heat. Down here it is almost a crime to think one is the same as the other.
Wow, interesting. Really, never had a clue there was any difference. As far as I recall both words were used, even back when my father used to cook outdoors in the summer.
 

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