The Chit Chat Chit Chat Thread

Letteyeti

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Well, there is a lot of social infrastructure here, so no, those kids don't get left behind. We have systems in place to help them. For example, athletics and things aren't through the schools. You have to pay to participate, BUT for kids from lower income families, it's paid for by the city so everyone gets to participate. Each kid is given so much credit with which to do activities, so one of E's friends did scouting and dance. She didn't have to miss out because they couldn't afford it. And there are special schools for kids who really can't make it in the regular school. My neighbors' girls are bussed to a school 45 minutes away because they are hearing impaired and that's where the school for the hearing impaired is. And my son's school is here in our town, but most of the kids in his school do not live in this town. They are bussed in from other towns because this is where the school for Autism is. There's also a school for kids with learning disabilities like dyslexia. They're very good about making sure everyone succeeds.

But, what I hear from my friends in the states is that kids there are pressured to do well on the standardized tests, and teachers teach to those, and they pile on homework, even for kids in first grade. My kids never had homework until high school. There were resources to practice spelling and geography, but they weren't mandatory and nothing was graded. All school work was done at school. There was really no pressure. The kids know they are learning for a reason, sure, but they also aren't made to feel stupid if they aren't as fast as some other kids. The tests are to see where they might need help and they are met where they are and given whatever resources they need to succeed. My son got therapy and we got coaching for free to help us how to handle Autism. They WANT you to do well and the systems are in place to help. It's not perfect, and some do manage to fall through the cracks, but in general, I'm really glad we live where we do. And actually, my daughter is a perfectionist and has some fear of failure. She put a lot of pressure on herself even when she was in first and 2nd grade. She was terrified of getting less than 100% on any school work, like spelling tests. She panicked when her teacher wanted to give her more difficult math, convinced she wouldn't be able to do it.....her teacher sat down with her and showed her the math and encouraged her to try, and then E knew she could do it. She freaked out when she got an "Exceeds expectations" instead of "Outstanding" on the spelling section of the national benchmark test. She got Outstanding in everything else, but cried because she only got Exceeds Expectations on spelling. Her teachers worked with her on easing the pressure and getting her to not expect so much of herself. She's still very driven, but she understands now that an A- is awesome, too. Both of them were given more advanced material in math and reading in elementary school, and there was also extra instruction for the kids who were behind. Everything is geared toward meeting them where they are and helping them meet their potential. It's not about turning them all into little geniuses, but bringing out what's there.
I agree with you 100% that here we get way too much homework after doing much school work during school hours. It is not only the kids that say this but the parents complain about it too. I love the fact that the schools over there have special ones for Dyslexia, Autism and things like that. Here they have special classrooms that teach students with those problems, but not a whole special school. I think that is awesome.

The standardized tests at the younger ages here that are given there isn't that much pressure on the students. I remember being told before those test by my teacher to just go home and get a good nights rest and that is it. Now for tests like the SAT that is a totally different story. I will start studying for that come around the Fall of this year so I can take it for the 1st time in the Spring of 2021. That particular test and the ACT test have a bit more importance than the ones given at the younger ages.

I think it is great to be driven and I wish I would be like that sometimes because if I was I would probably be close to the top of my class with grades. I just lose focus in being too social a lot of times. That is just who I am. I don't like the amount of pressure though a kid has on them because they got an Exceeds Expectations instead of an Outstanding and that leads them to tears. That to me is too much.
 

FutureCEO

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With all the cr*p going on I needed to watch a feel good movie last night. Youtube has Hoosiers on for free. Since I had never seen it to my husband’s surprise, we watched it. It was so good and perfect for making you “feel good” to be a human. I love sports movies.


You should watch McFarland. Sports movies are iffy to me. I'm not fan of basketball so that out and football but I don't mind Rudy (though I haven't seen it in forever) and Invincible. I used to not mind Blind Side but now it ehhh.
 

Songbird76

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I agree with you 100% that here we get way too much homework after doing much school work during school hours. It is not only the kids that say this but the parents complain about it too. I love the fact that the schools over there have special ones for Dyslexia, Autism and things like that. Here they have special classrooms that teach students with those problems, but not a whole special school. I think that is awesome.

The standardized tests at the younger ages here that are given there isn't that much pressure on the students. I remember being told before those test by my teacher to just go home and get a good nights rest and that is it. Now for tests like the SAT that is a totally different story. I will start studying for that come around the Fall of this year so I can take it for the 1st time in the Spring of 2021. That particular test and the ACT test have a bit more importance than the ones given at the younger ages.

I think it is great to be driven and I wish I would be like that sometimes because if I was I would probably be close to the top of my class with grades. I just lose focus in being too social a lot of times. That is just who I am. I don't like the amount of pressure though a kid has on them because they got an Exceeds Expectations instead of an Outstanding and that leads them to tears. That to me is too much.
Yeah, we are really happy with A's school. He started going to the special school in 5th grade. Everything is modified. They have dimmed lights, carpeted floors so chairs don't scrape, all eye-catching stuff is at the back of the classroom so they don't get overly-stimulated. They have more comic books and non-fiction books in the library, because a lot of kids with Autism can't really relate to a character in a story...they can't place themselves in that person's shoes and understand what they are thinking and feeling. But a lot of them are interested in something specific....like, my son loves chess and sheep. Another kid might love windmills. And another is fascinated with biology. So they have more books that are about educational things than chapter books, but they have those, too. Class sizes are smaller....in elementary school the max was 14 kids, but now that he's in secondary school, the max is 9. And in his school, the kids don't go from class to class. It's just like elementary school in that the kids have a homeroom with one teacher who teaches every subject, except art and PE. They also have a social skills class where they learn things like appropriate behavior when meeting someone new, or going to a birthday party, or a funeral. How to make friends, how to ask for help, etc. They have special areas where they can go if they are feeling overwhelmed and need a break. They can win free time with good behavior and hard work, where they can choose to get an hour in the kitchen to make something fun, or an hour of computer time, etc. They also encourage the kids to teach each other about their interests...A has taught his classmates to play chess, and he helps the teacher with English class because he's a native speaker and has better English than the teacher. It's a really great environment. A would be lost in a regular public school.

And I completely agree that it was not healthy for E to be upset at 7 years old about an Exceeds expectations....that wasn't good. There has to be a balance. Of course you want to do your best, but it shouldn't stress you out so much that it has that much effect on you. We worked on that....it took several years to get her to chill out, and she still gets the best grades in her class, but now she's really happy even with a B. She recognizes that it's not a reflection on her intelligence and that getting a lower grade doesn't mean she's stupid or that she doesn't belong there. She's got a lot more balance in her life now between work and play. She still gets top grades, but she has fun with her friends, too. She knows when to buckle down and work, and when it's ok to relax. Friends and fun are really important in life, too, no matter what stage. You can't be all work and no play. It's not healthy.
 

StarWarsGirl

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In high school most of the time in reading "classics"

Though what is the classic (by the way of reading), books people love because most books certainly did not get love.
I do agree that most schools don't spend enough time on grammar. The only reason mine is as good as it is is because I had an English teacher sophomore year who decided it was important and was going to spend a lot of time on it. I then went on to have that teacher in junior and senior year because I took journalism. I ran into her not that long ago (again, working down the street from your high school will do that) and told her my grammar is still impeccable, and because of her, I know how to use "however" correctly in a sentence.
 

Songbird76

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In high school most of the time in reading "classics"

Though what is the classic (by the way of reading), books people love because most books certainly did not get love.
Huh....we spent a lot of time diagramming sentences in high school English class. We did read quite a few books, but we also did vocabulary words, grammar, sentence structure, etc. We also had district assessments where we had to write an essay on a particular topic to show we knew how to research, write competently, use words correctly, punctuate, spell, etc. Ours was a mix of reading and learning the language. Although most kids I went to school with probably still don't use the proper there, their, or they're, it's or its, your or you're, to, two, or too, etc.
 

Letteyeti

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Yeah, we are really happy with A's school. He started going to the special school in 5th grade. Everything is modified. They have dimmed lights, carpeted floors so chairs don't scrape, all eye-catching stuff is at the back of the classroom so they don't get overly-stimulated. They have more comic books and non-fiction books in the library, because a lot of kids with Autism can't really relate to a character in a story...they can't place themselves in that person's shoes and understand what they are thinking and feeling. But a lot of them are interested in something specific....like, my son loves chess and sheep. Another kid might love windmills. And another is fascinated with biology. So they have more books that are about educational things than chapter books, but they have those, too. Class sizes are smaller....in elementary school the max was 14 kids, but now that he's in secondary school, the max is 9. And in his school, the kids don't go from class to class. It's just like elementary school in that the kids have a homeroom with one teacher who teaches every subject, except art and PE. They also have a social skills class where they learn things like appropriate behavior when meeting someone new, or going to a birthday party, or a funeral. How to make friends, how to ask for help, etc. They have special areas where they can go if they are feeling overwhelmed and need a break. They can win free time with good behavior and hard work, where they can choose to get an hour in the kitchen to make something fun, or an hour of computer time, etc. They also encourage the kids to teach each other about their interests...A has taught his classmates to play chess, and he helps the teacher with English class because he's a native speaker and has better English than the teacher. It's a really great environment. A would be lost in a regular public school.

And I completely agree that it was not healthy for E to be upset at 7 years old about an Exceeds expectations....that wasn't good. There has to be a balance. Of course you want to do your best, but it shouldn't stress you out so much that it has that much effect on you. We worked on that....it took several years to get her to chill out, and she still gets the best grades in her class, but now she's really happy even with a B. She recognizes that it's not a reflection on her intelligence and that getting a lower grade doesn't mean she's stupid or that she doesn't belong there. She's got a lot more balance in her life now between work and play. She still gets top grades, but she has fun with her friends, too. She knows when to buckle down and work, and when it's ok to relax. Friends and fun are really important in life, too, no matter what stage. You can't be all work and no play. It's not healthy.
That school for A sounds awesome. I didn't even know that kids with Autism only focus of interest on one or a few specific things like chess and sheep. I had no clue about that. It really sounds like that school is a great environment for A.

I agree with you that there should be a balance although I sometimes find myself wanted to lean more into the fun part of it. :)
 

Letteyeti

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It's one of my goals in like. The other is to help people take more trips to Disney. And I should really do a TED talk series on why school teaches kids to hate reading and why PE teaches kids to hate exercise, my other practiced lecture.
You go for it. I honestly don't mind reading books on my own terms. It is when I am told to read a certain boring book and then I have to write a paper on it or take quizzes and tests on it and I actually haven't read it. :) The PE thing wouldn't be so bad except there is way too much running. That is all we seem to do in P.E. is run. I get sick of the timed runs. I am not going to be a long distance runner or a sprinter or any of that. I'd much rather play basketball or soccer even though I'd suck at it just let me do that. Going to Disney well I don't have any problem with that at all. :)
 

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